I've recently been working on using two computers and two guild wars accounts to clear out places like FoW, UW and other such fun places. Not long ago I figured out my way through all FoW quests with just my dervish and my monk, no heroes, henchies or humans to help me out. Walked out with 24 shards, 2 sapphires, 25k from selling crap and a bunch of golds. Here is a picture of me next to the chest of Woe in a party of two.
Currently I'm working on UW, I've done 9 out of 10 quests with one build so far, but "the four horsemen" is giving me a hard time.
My question to you is, has anyone here done this too? And maybe some tips and tricks on the four horsemen quest?
FoW duo for all quests
furin
Chik N Nuggets
how do you monk AND kill things with your derv at the same time??? >.>
willypiggy
Hax xD I Dual monitors with a good spec PC, not too hard... Or he could have more than one PC running... anyway, I don't know what to suggest really... nvm, pic loaded, nice removal of the skill bar 
We can't suggest how we can hel pyou if we don't know what you are doing wrong...
We can't suggest how we can hel pyou if we don't know what you are doing wrong...
stretchs
The only way I can see this possible is via a bonder or something with the monk like that because you would have a hard time managing 2 characters like that, OR he is using macros to do the work for him (gasp)
furin
No macro's or hacks were used here. All fair play. The monk is mostly a passive character though. Also, as for the "four hoursemen quest" problem, my problem is that they come in from two sides, and I can't gather them up on my dervish since they have more interest in the reaper then. I can't have my monk tank one side since she doesn't have the setup. Nor can I change my monk or dervish's elite to help defend the other side. I'm looking for strategies or non-elite skills that might defend one of the sides.
willypiggy
It's not that hard to use two monitors, you simply move your mouse from screen to screen... Or he could have an angry Korean kid tied up who he forces to play...
Brianna
I can play two games at once (Laptop + Main PC) It's not that hard to micromanage both, you'd be surprised. I can SS+55 UW by myself, and do CoF runs by myself too, all it is for the tank is button mashing, can just look away while you do the dirty work on your other screen.
great sir s
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It's not that hard to use two monitors, you simply move your mouse from screen to screen... Or he could have an angry Korean kid tied up who he forces to play...
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Carboplatin
2 man, thats pretty respectable.
The Way Out
Is your monk a bonder monk with life bond and life barrier? If so... try to life bond and life barrier the reaper. It is kind of hard to give suggestions when we don't know what you are working with. Skills plz or don't ask.
Nittle Grasper
monk is bonder with serpent's quickness to rc Spell Breaker perhaps? And the derv is avy of bal with mega awesome dps?
eximiis
Vow of silence ?? perhaps with the monk bonding the dervish.
~ Dan ~
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And the derv is avy of bal with mega awesome dps?
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MagmaRed
Scourge Healing perhaps, and Deep Wound would prevent healing from being as effective. I'm more concerned with how long this takes, as even groups with no healing will take a while to kill.
furin
I can run this in about 4 hours. It's not fast, I'm just in for the challenge. The biggest problem in FoW however isn't the monks, it's the abbysals combined with mesmers .
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Nittle Grasper
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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
AoB bars do not do awesome DPS. You are confused. I'd also like to see 1 derv solo kill 2 woh shadow monks (or 3.. or 2 stood together spamming heal area). My derv sure as hell couldn't do it. And yes, the monk is a bonder.
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MagmaRed
People already duo UW and FoW, so this isn't some game breaking farming build. And since it takes so long to clear FoW (roughly twice as long as an 8 man team), why so hush hush about the build?
You want help on completing the UW clear, but how can anyone help when they don't know what you are doing? Either post the builds, or ask a mod to close the thread and figure it out yourself.
You want help on completing the UW clear, but how can anyone help when they don't know what you are doing? Either post the builds, or ask a mod to close the thread and figure it out yourself.
furin
So because this thread isn't going where you want it to, it should be closed? Interesting...
There was another question in my first post, has anyone done all the quests in uw or fow alone without heroes or hench? If there is I'd like some word on how you tackled "four horsemen".
There was another question in my first post, has anyone done all the quests in uw or fow alone without heroes or hench? If there is I'd like some word on how you tackled "four horsemen".
Qwertyfied
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Originally Posted by furin
There was another question in my first post, has anyone done all the quests in uw or fow alone without heroes or hench? If there is I'd like some word on how you tackled "four horsemen".
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MagmaRed
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So because this thread isn't going where you want it to, it should be closed? Interesting...
There was another question in my first post, has anyone done all the quests in uw or fow alone without heroes or hench? If there is I'd like some word on how you tackled "four horsemen". |
Maybe you should read what Wiki has to say about the quest. The info on what monsters you face, where they come from, and what skills they use should be all you need.
ProgTes
That's one hell of a job you did there, congratulations. I for one would like to know the build just because of the 24 shards, but still, 4 hours would be too much time for me ^^
As for the 4 horsemen, you won't be able to do that without tanking the 2 parts. I did the entire FoW with a guildie and rest heroes, twice, and I did UW with 3 guildies and 4 heroes IIRC. Just let an obsidian tank tank one side (or in your case yourself, if you can maintain invulnerability, sort of) and let the rest of the party do the hacking on the other side. You really need to have spell immunity though or you won't last long enough for the other side to finish their job. Obsidian tank does the job nicely, especially when under the effects of the Almighty Consumables
As for the 4 horsemen, you won't be able to do that without tanking the 2 parts. I did the entire FoW with a guildie and rest heroes, twice, and I did UW with 3 guildies and 4 heroes IIRC. Just let an obsidian tank tank one side (or in your case yourself, if you can maintain invulnerability, sort of) and let the rest of the party do the hacking on the other side. You really need to have spell immunity though or you won't last long enough for the other side to finish their job. Obsidian tank does the job nicely, especially when under the effects of the Almighty Consumables
eximiis
@op
Open up your heart and other ppl will do the same for you !!!
Like MagmaRed already said, UW and FoW is already done with 2-man.
And to answer your other question, the quest "four horsemen" as been done with a 2 man.
Open up your heart and other ppl will do the same for you !!!
Like MagmaRed already said, UW and FoW is already done with 2-man.
And to answer your other question, the quest "four horsemen" as been done with a 2 man.
furin
At Sir Magma:
There are things that wiki doesn't show or say. Locations where one can aggro both groups perhaps? Certain skills that might be particulary good against the bosses and their fire ele's. Non-elite ones perhaps?
Besides, nobody's forcing you to read or take part in this thread. I'm not saying that you can't, I'm just saying that maybe you shouldn't, cause it's not your thing?
There are things that wiki doesn't show or say. Locations where one can aggro both groups perhaps? Certain skills that might be particulary good against the bosses and their fire ele's. Non-elite ones perhaps?
Besides, nobody's forcing you to read or take part in this thread. I'm not saying that you can't, I'm just saying that maybe you shouldn't, cause it's not your thing?
Carboplatin
the only way i can see the 4 horses be taken down is with 2 tanks. They come from two sides and grouping them without aggroing the reaper is next to impossible
edit - i take it back. check these guys out
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10244027
edit - i take it back. check these guys out
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10244027
ProgTes
When in a party with 8, 1 tank on one side, and 7 on the other side will do. The only thing that matters is if the lonely tank can survive long enough. Which the obsidian tank can.
furin
I have been going over having spell breaker on my monk to put on the reaper in combination with life bond. Have the reaper tank one side while I kill the other side on my dervish. The problem with that however is that I would have to get rid of life barrier, and without life barrier I can't take the ripostes from the aatxe at the beginning, so I'd have to replace that with something non-elite. Which is rediculously hard with the amount of skill slots I have for spare.
MagmaRed
As far as I know, you will need at least 1 of 3 skills to be able to tank either side. Since you want to do it with 2 characters, you will need 2 of them.
[skill]Spell Breaker[/skill]
[skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill]
[skill]Vow of Silence[/skill]
[skill]Spell Breaker[/skill]
[skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill]
[skill]Vow of Silence[/skill]
Chrono Re delle Ere
Let's assume that the derv is using vow of strenght + aura of holy might, + a LOAD of enchantments from the monk (+ strenght of honor to deal more dmg and this kind of things)+ mystic regen + heket's rampage + holy dmg (I think that it also makes dps higher) and I think that you can actually manage to kill 2 shadow monks...lets put in a mystic vigor and you have full HP 24/7....
lets also assume he is spamming vital boon to don't let mesmers strip most important enchantments rofl
lets also assume he is spamming vital boon to don't let mesmers strip most important enchantments rofl
Sub Frost
Personally i like to do fow/uw with full or almost full groups(get bored while doing it solo/duo), but gratz on your efforts though.
Sergeant of Marines
Good job, just very interested in the builds though =D
Jeremy Untouchable
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the only way i can see the 4 horses be taken down is with 2 tanks. They come from two sides and grouping them without aggroing the reaper is next to impossible
edit - i take it back. check these guys out http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10244027 |
LOL...cerb is well known as one of the best 55's ever...
RazorEdge
Nice going furin gg
And yeah, usually you have someone with anti-spell elites guarding one side, while others rush the other one. With 2 man, I guess you have to figure out another way to do it.
I'm speculating if it would be possible to aggro both groups before they get to the reaper. As soon as they spawn maybe.
ggAnd yeah, usually you have someone with anti-spell elites guarding one side, while others rush the other one. With 2 man, I guess you have to figure out another way to do it.
I'm speculating if it would be possible to aggro both groups before they get to the reaper. As soon as they spawn maybe.
BLOODGOAT
So this two-man micromanaged by yourself can FoW clear in 4 hours... interesting. The only time I ever did FoW clear was with a PuG + 1 alliance-mate and it took five wretched hours, primarily because the nukers were running crap like Teinai's Heat and Firestorm. I didn't care though, I was busy mashing Blessed Signet and Ether Signet because I was bonding at 90% of the time, holding 12 enchants. So I had my own complications to worry about.
And the loot was HORRIBLE. 3 shards, including the chest, and it didn't even drop me a R8 inscribable Chaos Axe >:O
I was chapped.
And the loot was HORRIBLE. 3 shards, including the chest, and it didn't even drop me a R8 inscribable Chaos Axe >:O
I was chapped.
Avarre
The only problem when doing Four Horsemen is that the Reaper can make terrorwebs scatter with Maelstrom which can aggro them on the group. That's the only reason cerb and I have failed the quest so far. It's practically a matter of luck as to whether you get aggro dumped on you, which is annoying.
PS: All of you are approaching the 2-man tactic for it completely wrong.
PS: All of you are approaching the 2-man tactic for it completely wrong.
MagmaRed
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PS: All of you are approaching the 2-man tactic for it completely wrong.
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Arduin
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PS: All of you are approaching the 2-man tactic for it completely wrong.
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I bow before your almighty GW-power, I am a mere insect compared to you uber-farmers. (I suppose this is what you people want to here, since none of you 2-man farmers are showing your build to the community, and only want to show your e-peen)
Avarre
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Maybe so, but saying that and not explaining is rude, and obnoxious. Perhaps some input on it, and advice for the OP would be good if you know something that can help.
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Originally Posted by furin
I have been going over having spell breaker on my monk to put on the reaper in combination with life bond. Have the reaper tank one side while I kill the other side on my dervish. The problem with that however is that I would have to get rid of life barrier, and without life barrier I can't take the ripostes from the aatxe at the beginning, so I'd have to replace that with something non-elite. Which is rediculously hard with the amount of skill slots I have for spare.
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Yang Whirlwind
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And the loot was HORRIBLE. 3 shards, including the chest, and it didn't even drop me a R8 inscribable Chaos Axe >:O
I was chapped. |
- ahh well, mostly did it for the HoM anyway!
Good job on playing on two comps at once! - have to be sort of tiring in the long run though!
Aera Lure
The topic is really kind of pointless without the builds to discuss.
MagmaRed
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The topic is really kind of pointless without the builds to discuss.
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"My build is awesome, I can do FoW and UW with 2 characters I play by myself! I just can't finish 1 quest, so I need your help. Oh, and I won't tell you my build because then all you noobs will be awesome like me."
Even the people offering advice seem to be using e-peen hormones here. Mods saying everyone is going about it wrong, and that he is too leet to spoon feed the noobs.
Maybe you could at least give directions to a good caterer if you don't want to spoon feed us. I personally don't care about 2 man UW/FoW, as I can do that already (just not a complete clear). But there are people who are curious for profit reasons, challenge reasons, and fun reasons. Either close this thread, or start helping those people who are curious how this stuff works.