Prices rising from traders?

st753m

st753m

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Eastern Time Zone (USA)

Mo/E

I've noticed that the NPC traders prices have been rising. Black dye costs 1.5k more than it did a month ago, and according to my guild leader (who had been saving up to buy a hall) the price raised from about 9k to 20k for the sigls within about that time as well.

I understand that it's based on supply and demand, but do you think this increase will continue at it's current rate? As a casual player, I don't want to have to spend a week's worth of playing to afford even the cheapest dyes (I know I'm exaggerating, but still...)

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

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I see black dyes change price all the time, usually between 1-2k.
Don't pay attention to sigils though.

But yeah it varies all the time.

Sergeant of Marines

Sergeant of Marines

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

Japan

[트두므s], Guild Leader

Mo/

Have you seen the price on Onyx going up lately...it is a steady increase...

angmar_nite

angmar_nite

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

[SNOW] of [YUM]

E/

Good. Just like it used to be.

Albert Algorn

Albert Algorn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Oregon, USA

MARA: Our Turtles Know True [LOVE]

R/Me

Prices are always changing for supplies and dye especially. Ectos used to be worth farming,

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Interesting, this started happening after the 117 bans...

Could it be? /tinfoilhat


PS: I'm kidding.

jon0592

jon0592

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

My guildie sold about 100 Sup vigor runes to trader in an effort to make them cheaper.

it's going up

Songbringer

Songbringer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

EastCoast

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by jon0592
My guildie sold about 100 Sup vigor runes to trader in an effort to make them cheaper.

it's going up


who has a 100 sup vigs lying around? there are like 3 mill gw players or something..100 vigs is a drop in the bucket on that scale of a market.


I am glad the market is going up maybe it will be worth it to farm some more. well not that many people really need to farm anymore T_T

Nodensis

Nodensis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

United Provinces of the Netherlands

Legend of the White [Moa]

Rt/A

[ rant ]

option A: ArenaNet is fixing the prices manually, which they never did and is not logical they'd do right now (they're too busy with GW2/origami contests)
option B: Extremely high demand on materials/merch stuff (there isnt a reason as far as i know)
option C: Bad Servers

[ /rant ]

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

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Good. Lets hope they "fix" rune prices for pete's sake! Been getting a lot of em these days.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

The most reasonable guess would be that the pre-wintersday farming frenzy is over. As such, the overall supply has lessened, while demand remained constant.

If you think back, as the end of year approaches, there's lots of events. There was also GW:EN and BMP, all of which led to everyone and their pet doing a lot of farming. Among that was also a lot of items that go straight to merchant.

Now, the major events are over and it'll be a while. There are no promised updates, so there is no goal to work towards. General items are such in shorter supply, as only few go back to farm small number of special items.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Songbringer
who has a 100 sup vigs lying around? there are like 3 mill gw players or something..100 vigs is a drop in the bucket on that scale of a market.
When I had 200 rubies [before NF u.u] I sold about fifty when the trader started buying for 100g less.

Shadowlance.

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

The Prophecy Of Life

R/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergeant of Marines
Have you seen the price on Onyx going up lately...it is a steady increase...
I've been seeing that too. Maybe it's just my bad luck, but I'm thinking the GW:EN dungeon chest drops have been nerfed a bit lately. The first time I went through my master dungeon guide, I'll bet I got an onyx from a third of them, and a green drop from three. The second time I went through the guide, I got one onyx and no greens. The rest were all high req golds I ended up selling to the merchant. With onyx dropping less, and people wanting to fill their HoM with destroyer weapons, the trader's sell price is likely going to keep rising.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Songbringer
who has a 100 sup vigs lying around? there are like 3 mill gw players or something..100 vigs is a drop in the bucket on that scale of a market.


I am glad the market is going up maybe it will be worth it to farm some more. well not that many people really need to farm anymore T_T
I know a guy who bought 100 sup asorbs @ 60-70k each just before Factions release...boy was he fooked off when they dropped to 100g

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
I know a guy who bought 100 sup asorbs @ 60-70k each just before Factions release...boy was he fooked off when they dropped to 100g

That would really, really suck.

I've noticed a change in Onyxs, but besides that I haven't really paid attention. I don't think its really anything to worry about.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
If you think back, as the end of year approaches, there's lots of events. There was also GW:EN and BMP, all of which led to everyone and their pet doing a lot of farming. Among that was also a lot of items that go straight to merchant.
so.........what were you farming in BMP? Authorized books that can't be traded or sold?

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

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lol why are onyx rising in prices? is it cuz most ppl realize by now that anet isnt going to let ppl put their random weapons into the hom?

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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Onyx prices is logical. Everyone is working on maxing out destroyer weapons for hall of monuments. Atleast I assume that is why the prices are going up.

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight
Onyx prices is logical. Everyone is working on maxing out destroyer weapons for hall of monuments. Atleast I assume that is why the prices are going up.
Sounds like it, since it's the only use so far. Now that the prices had "dropped", the demand is back up high... price is going up too.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

mm nah i dont mind i loved to make new chars when Sup vig ~40-50k Sup curse/fire and monk runes ~10k etc Blacks 10k and Ectos 13k :P it was awesome! i hope theu go UP UP UP!

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

I have also noticed that the price of shards has about doubled. I don't do fow as much as I used to but when I went tonight (1 run) they didn't seem to drop as often as usual. Of course that is 1 run and is not conclusive, just throwing it out there for someone who has done more runs lately. (not that I'm complaining, more money for me when they drop since I am not going for fow armor)

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Anyone think this may be linked to the inclusion of the Asian districts?

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

i thought all traders were linked everywhere?

I put the rise in prices down to the (ab)use of consumables and UB(the two tend to go together). Consumables demand lots of mats to use, so it's understandable that prices will rise.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
i thought all traders were linked everywhere?
Well, as far as I know, and I could be wrong so let me know, but before the merge of America + Europe servers, they each had their own economy. People would buy Ectos in Europe and server hop to America to sell them (though you were only allowed 5 hops). So, if this is the case, then Asia's servers must've had a different economy as well, which was only recently merged (what, a week ago?).

To throw more gibberish into my theorycraft, Asia servers represented a considerably smaller amount of players than either America or Europe individually, much less combined. Less people means: 1) less people maxing titles with the new[er] favor system, so less time (if any) for UW/FoW, so very little chance (other than scrolls) to get certain rare materials or buy certain elite armor; and 2) less everything coming into their economy until a week ago, and they likely have lots of gold to spend since there wasn't enough to spend it on before.

So yeah, idea is that you introduce a relatively small percentage of people, who have likely farmed lots of gold with nothing to spend it on, into the current relatively balanced economy. Because there were less people and likely a lot more gold, everything they had was potentially 2-3x what it's worth in our game. They get merged and "oh look!" everything seems so cheap - and they buy it up with their accumulated wealth. It shakes things up, but eventually goes back to normal. That is what I suspect is going on.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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1. People see one items has a high price. Due to low quantity.
2. People go farm the item.
3. People sell much of the item.
4. Item decrease in price. Due to high quantity.
5. People stop farming the item.
4. Item increase in price. Due to low quantity.

Rinse and repeat.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Well, that would make sense if we were talking about one or two items. However, it's looking more like several items. So what, everyone just stopped farming all these items at the same time?

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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People stopped selling them.

IF you see you are goint to get 500g from a rune, you salvage it, if not, you sell it without salvaging.

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by wetsparks
I have also noticed that the price of shards has about doubled. I don't do fow as much as I used to but when I went tonight (1 run) they didn't seem to drop as often as usual. Of course that is 1 run and is not conclusive, just throwing it out there for someone who has done more runs lately. (not that I'm complaining, more money for me when they drop since I am not going for fow armor)
got 5 from about 80 mins of FOW

Songbringer

Songbringer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

EastCoast

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleikki
mm nah i dont mind i loved to make new chars when Sup vig ~40-50k Sup curse/fire and monk runes ~10k etc Blacks 10k and Ectos 13k :P it was awesome! i hope theu go UP UP UP!


SO DID I!!! stupid message has to be longer so here is my useless sentence to make it longer

GrimEye

GrimEye

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Rt/

Increase prices usually means More Demand than Supply.

Which means the Farmers of Guildwars are not doing their job!!!!