HFFF farming

kane zarthrox

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

WA

Mo/E

well i learned how to Hfff from the guide here on guru (tyvm whoever wrote it, never would of found out how to do the stairs if it weren't for you lol) and ive learned if you take 2 people with you, its acutally BETTER than any type of farming ive done in months. all you need is 3 heroes and your set. 2x 100g= 200 + the additional 150 you get is 350g a run, and a run is a minute so in an hour or so i can make 25k to 30k, depending on how much you charge, and that is better than spending hours in UW or something, and you can not worry about getting noob rampaged by your team, AND if your in a faction donating guild that pays 5-10k for each 5-10k faction you donate, thats 35-40k an hour, am i right? so a reccommendation to those with holes in your pockets, do hfff for a few hours a day, and you can make a million in 25 hours, spread over a time period of a few days, thats a million gold in a week, so i dunno why people are mad about the so called loot scaling, grab your heroes and go have some fun lol

and i apologize to the people who don't have heroes, this isn't the thread for you

(btw here is the link i used to get started) http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10204774

NeonXero

NeonXero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Pennsylvania

Leaked Aggression [grr]

D/W

It does sound "good"... I'd like to try it out sometime. I may go search for that guide, glad you find it to be profitable haha.

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

Won't anet consider you botting sometimes?

(typing on my iPod touch )

Chaos55

Chaos55

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Mo/E

Well I don't know about the botting thing but after like an hour straight or hFFF on my Survivor monk, the game just crashes sometimes for me. I usually just hFFF occassionally but it's more fun with live people with you.

Performance Pudding

Performance Pudding

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

post ascalon

Over The [Wall]

W/

repetitive tasks = boring do something useful like work with the time instead . real money >>> gw gold.

i learned today that if there is a big difference more than one > or < is allowed. :P

Caged Fury

Caged Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hearts Of Fury [HoF]

It is repeatitive and can get boring, but it is easy and can be quite relaxing to do - it's a no-brainer. I learnt the HFFF to get the 10K factions for the befriending quests, so a couple of NF characters can get through Factions. Since it was easy to do, I decided to continue with the Kurzick one to get several skills and a reasonable rank 4. Took me less than a week to get the rank and skills I wanted, and ended up with around 100K gold (I took people along now and again, but just couldn't be bothered to ask for payment). Cash made was a very nice bonus since my aim was the rank and not the gold.

Antithesis

Antithesis

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

BrisneyLand

Sphincter Says [What]

W/

I finally pulled my finger out and tried HFFF - damn it's easy, fast and a great way to make cash...particularly if you have multiple accounts

With 3 accounts i'll earn 450g / 60-70 secs, which should accumulate at a rate of around 25K / hr. By the time i hit r10 (about 243 hours from r4), i'll conservatively have around 6,000,000 in the bank.

Habs69M

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

What is HFFF? kinda new with all this

Abonai Laguna

Abonai Laguna

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Isle of the Dead [CoC] GH

Company Of Corpses [CoC]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Habs69M
What is HFFF? kinda new with all this its a short name for: Hero Fast Faction Farming.
I wud like a link to the guide if it isnt a problem

Caged Fury

Caged Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hearts Of Fury [HoF]

This was the one I used, not a complete guide as stated by the poster but it was written well to get me up and running. It may take a few practice runs to get the precise flagging, but it's easy to get the hang of.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10204774

Stoneys Rock

Stoneys Rock

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Wales, United Kingdom

Great Success [GS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kane zarthrox
AND if your in a faction donating guild that pays 5-10k for each 5-10k faction you donate, thats 35-40k an hour, am i right? Is there such a heaven? I mean place ;P
yeah this run really is a no brainer :- ) nice, relaxing and easy.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guide..._modifications

scroll down to "FFF Hero Aid" use this with texmod and it really does make it a no brainer ;]
Agreed, the hero aid + hero flag mods are a must, makes the run extremely easy. You also might want to check out the Lutgardis FFF Team on PvX Wiki for notes on the run.

Build

Instead of the R/A's or A/R's, i went with 3 x E/A's with [skill=text]Shadow Form[/skill], [skill=text]Storm Djinn's Haste[/skill] and [skill=text]Feigned Neutrality[/skill]. You can also add [skill=text]Dash[/skill] to their bars to speed things up by a few seconds. I have [skill=text]"Charge!"[/skill] or [skill=text]"Fall Back!"[/skill] on my bar. The advantage of this build is the minimum of 22 seconds of +33% speed from Storm Djinn's Haste, so it's more or less set and forget.

Usage

Refer to the
PvX Wiki guide for flag locations.
Flag Hero 1 to map location, hit Shadow Form, Storm Djinn's Haste.
Flag Hero 2 to its first waypoint, hit Shadow Form, Storm Djinn's Haste.
Flag Hero 3 to map location, hit Shadow Form, Storm Djinn's Haste.
Flag Devona and Lukas to map location, hit Charge! or Fall Back! to give them an initial speed boost.
Heroes 1 & 3 should hit their target by the time SDH runs out. Use Dash on your Heroes if they aren't there yet.
Hero 2 should be ready and waiting for you at its waypoint within a few seconds of flagging the Henchies to their spot.
Heroes let you know when they hit their flagged location by casting Feigned Neutrality.
Once you see Hero 2 cast, reflag to its second waypoint, hit Storm Djinn's Haste.
Use Hero 1's Shadow Form as a timer - when it's ready to recharge, grab the quest and pick up reward!

Sol Deathgard

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shadows of the Dragon

W/N

I do this when I'm not doing anything else at the moment, but I'll choose fff over hfff anyday.

Antithesis

Antithesis

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

BrisneyLand

Sphincter Says [What]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Deathgard
I do this when I'm not doing anything else at the moment, but I'll choose fff over hfff anyday. HFFF is quicker, easier and can be done solo. If you enjoy PUG'ing or hanging out with guildies, then by all means, go FFF. I'll choose HFFF anyday.

greenreaper3

greenreaper3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

ign: Cytherea of Athens

We Made Mallyx Tap [Out]

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Hmm... Excelent point. Hard to find a guild that pays for faction dumps, but I have been in a few before.


Quote:
Originally Posted by kane zarthrox View Post
(btw here is the link i used to get started) http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10204774 This is the guru homepage... Where's the guide???

My Lipgloss is Cool

My Lipgloss is Cool

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

My Computer

Band Of The H A W K

P/Mo

It probably fell off guru, this thread being 10 months old and all.

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

Actually, if you look at the link, it has ... in it.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by greenreaper3 View Post
Where's the guide??? http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10204774

Link was broken. The poster did something wrong.

edit: They probably highlighted the text and copied that, rather than the full url. All I did to fix it was substitute "showthread." in place of "s..." manually.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

If I could find a guild that paid for faction donating... I would easily have like a mil already. Wish I could find one. I will have to make my millions the long way, with 100g a drop customers.

By the way, if you can flag hench quick enough and make sure people stay put you can bring only 1 hench to flag to the bridge and they will make it every time as long as noone moves and you flag within like 8-10 seconds of zoning.

Then you get an extra customer spot.

Kaffatsum

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

This Story is So [Epic]

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Good job on the profit research... I have been doing HFFF alot just for fun and i find it a great way to make money although i am not in a guild that pays for faction. Another great thing is when people tip you an extra 25-75 gp every so runs. Then if their more kind, they usually give a 100-200 gp tip when they are done leeching off of you.

Huiboo

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2008

AofT

E/

Well in theory u can make lots of money with this farm but i actually find it hard to find ppl who give me 100g per run and im pretty sure that there is no guild which gives u 1k for 1k fractions...

Yeah u could make a los of money if u use 3 account at the same time althoug i dont know how to run more than 1 account on 1 computer at a time and i have only 2 accounts with factions.

And yes HFFF gets very boring very fast!
Ppl are botting this for a good reason...

The money per hour is not bad and its very consistant but i would only do this if i needed money rly rly bad.

There are less boring farms which give u more money (tho ther not many anymore) so if u are not going for the Kurzick title u should do this ones.

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Antithesis
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I have [skill=text]"Charge!"[/skill] or [skill=text]"Fall Back!"[/skill] on my bar. The advantage of this build is the minimum of 22 seconds of +33% speed from Storm Djinn's Haste, so it's more or less set and forget. Fall back! is wasted there. If you cast them both at the same time, your speed is capped at 33% anyway. If your H/H aren't long out of earshot by the time Charge! wears out, you are doing something very very wrong.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

He said charge or fall back. As in if your character doesn't have access to the elite charge then you go /paragon for fall back.

cyvil

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

If you can't find a guild that is willing to pay for your faction, consider buying amber. Even at current merch price, amber adds about 40gp per run.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cyvil
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If you can't find a guild that is willing to pay for your faction, consider buying amber. Even at current merch price, amber adds about 40gp per run. And doubles the time to r10.

Basically no guild pays for faction donations anymore because so many people do this no one can keep up ><.

cyvil

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luminarus
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And doubles the time to r10.

Basically no guild pays for faction donations anymore because so many people do this no one can keep up ><.
I was speaking of the using the faction on a secondary account to buy the amber. If you are going for the title, your main should (of course) donate to the guild. Much of the conversation in this thread speaks to using second and third accounts being used to "farm" the quest, rather than simply going for the title.