An Unlock Pack For All Mini-pets

Mee Pok Mee Siam

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2008

First of all, it would help to stabilise the economy for the sales of mini-pets and reduce the people whom are botting for the capital to buy them. Why? The number of botters are still at large and you guys(developers) are still not doing much about it. I seriously wonder how dedicated you guys(developers) are for your game, especially since it is only Guild Wars 1. It seriously dampen my anticipation for Guild Wars 2. Secondly, it also helps to generate income for running the servers. Why? After experiencing the release of pvp unlock packs and latest of all the bonus mission pack for us to buy, I pity all those players who spent most of their time pvping to get balthazar points in the past, especially when they have forsaken part of their social life or the lack of sleeping sufficiently. This pack is rendered useless in pvp and applicable only in pve partially. I wouldn't suggest this if it weren't for the unlock packs that were available already, and also the fact that districts are being merged to save bandwidth recently. Which is pretty hilarious when a monthly fee could just be included and be done with it in the first place.

Please stick to the topic if you are planning to reply, all others are ignored.

[Morkai]

[Morkai]

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Heroes of Elonia [HE]

W/Rt

You're TELLING Anet to bring in a monthly fee? If you wanna pay for it go play WoW.

This is a retarded idea IMO. It's like saying "Ok Anet heres how you can sap more money from us..apart from the BMP (which i got through promotion so meh.. anyways) ...You can just allow us an unlock pack to unlock all Elite armors for a character.

/Not signed because it's a retarded idea.

Jamster

Jamster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

Avacara Knights

N/Me

/not signed.
Mini-pets are meant to be a sign of either your age or your Guild Wars wealth, not how much cash you can buy in Real Life(tm). You want Anet to encourage Real World Trading? Might as well go to Temple of Balth Int 1 and buy some GWgold from one of those many sites.

As to a monthly fee, they seem to be making good enough progress without one, and I'd like to see some proof of
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also the fact that districts are being merged to save bandwidth recently

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

XDDDD

Although I agree that there must be an unlimited source for all miniatures, I would never agree with just give them to anyone that pays for them.

Birthday miniatures do already have unlimited sources. No problem with those.

For the rest, contests, extremely low drop rates in end-chests or from the creatures they represent, or even being able to 'craft' them by using a lot of expensive materials or things like those could do.

But just pay to get?

XDDD

No, no...

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

/not signed

Theres already this option. get ebayed/botted money for real cash and buy the minis from sellers.

*note, if Anet catches you then you will be banned and anyone who knows what happened will have a good laugh, so its not really advisable.

but as the others have already said, its a sign of either char age, or ingame wealth, Id also add also a sign of real life work for the contest winners

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

/not signed

It would be like changing what minipets were "meant" for. Contrarily to skill unlock packs.

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

more ingame ways to get minis - good
spending real-life money on GW items - sad

Kaydee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Imaginary Friends

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No matter how secure you think you make something, there is always a way around, you will always see botters and what not in a game where in game currency has a value. If money on the other hand wasnt the main factor in a game, that would be a different story, wether they buy minipets or whatever they use em on.

Mee Pok Mee Siam

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2008

[QUOTE=Jamster] /not signed.
Mini-pets are meant to be a sign of either your age or your Guild Wars wealth, not how much cash you can buy in Real Life(tm). You want Anet to encourage Real World Trading? Might as well go to Temple of Balth Int 1 and buy some GWgold from one of those many sites.[QUOTE]

Mini-pets represents your Guild Wars wealth? Please refrain from uttering nonsense. Mini-pets are signs of representing a character's age? This is hilarious, what if you are in a situation where you have sold off all your mini-pets and someone ask you to display a second year mini-pet? You can't, can you? Last of all, what's makes you think they can't change the way mini-pets are given? Did they stated it in their Guild Wars User Agreement?

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As to a monthly fee, they seem to be making good enough progress without one, and I'd like to see some proof of
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also the fact that districts are being merged to save bandwidth recently
From this comment above, it clearly shows how ''mature'' your mindset is.

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

if this idea gets implemented i will punch every Anet worker and then eat the frog.

Tokar Terrius

Tokar Terrius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

England

STOP VIRGIN MEDIA!

Mo/E

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Originally Posted by Alex the Great
if this idea gets implemented i will punch every Anet worker and then eat the frog.
hehe

oh and /notsigned

schaapie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

E/Mo

/notsigned

no comment at all, i am speachless.

Mee Pok Mee Siam

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Berek
This is a retarded idea IMO. It's like saying "Ok Anet heres how you can sap more money from us..apart from the BMP
Apart from the Bonus Mission Pack. Why did you say that? As there wasn't any other option of obtaining it then, is it not? So now the Bonus Mission Pack is due to release in the online store, giving players options of obtaining them if they missed the promotion. So why can't it be done for players who want to obtain the third year mini-pets as well if their oldest character is only a year odd other than buying from in-game?

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Firstly, you seem to be putting a lot of importance on mini pets and I cant say I know any players who "bot" purely to gain the gold to buy them.

There may be a big market for mini pets, but its no where near as huge or influencial on the market as you seem to be suggesting.

But even if it was, who cares? Most mini pets are a mear 5-15k now and its only the rare ones which are more... as it should be.

I'm signed for adding a normal mini pet pack to the store, but not if it gives people the rare green, purple of gold pets because those are intended to be rare.

Also where did the monthly fee comment come from?

This game does not need a monthly fee to support it in anyway shape or form. It works great without one and from my experience GWs is a far more stable game then WoW.

I've been kicked from GWs less times then I have WoW.

Sorry but you idea is nonsense because your trying to make a big deal out of something, which isnt a big deal. Plus I didnt really understand the pvp part of your post either.

Some things are meant to be expensive in the market, its called an economy and commerce. If everything was cheap, there would be nothing to drive people to earn gold and pump it back into the market.

And sorry but are you a games developer? are you a programmer? do you have any experience in running a company or running an online game?

To so casually sit there and dictate that Anet isnt doing enouh to stop botting is just offensive to the entire Anet team who have probably put hours and days into trying to track down bots and remove then from the game.

Its very limited what they can do, to prevent them and find them. They have to trall through endless amounts of data to find signs of bot action.

The solution is NOT to just make everything cheap and give it away in packs at the store, because that is then unfair on those players who dont have real world cash to spend on them. I know I couldnt afford to keep buying pack after pack after pack in the store and I would feel a bit miffed if I was missing out on something fun or important.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex the Great
if this idea gets implemented i will punch every Anet worker and then eat the frog.
Please, don't eat the frog!

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Originally Posted by Mee Pok Mee Siam
First of all, it would help to stabilise the economy for the sales of mini-pets and reduce the people whom are botting for the capital to buy them. Why? The number of botters are still at large and you guys(developers) are still not doing much about it. I seriously wonder how dedicated you guys(developers) are for your game, especially since it is only Guild Wars 1. It seriously dampen my anticipation for Guild Wars 2. Secondly, it also helps to generate income for running the servers. Why? After experiencing the release of pvp unlock packs and latest of all the bonus mission pack for us to buy, I pity all those players who spent most of their time pvping to get balthazar points in the past, especially when they have forsaken part of their social life or the lack of sleeping sufficiently. This pack is rendered useless in pvp and applicable only in pve partially. I wouldn't suggest this if it weren't for the unlock packs that were available already, and also the fact that districts are being merged to save bandwidth recently. Which is pretty hilarious when a monthly fee could just be included and be done with it in the first place.


Bots and farmers have been here since the start of the game, long before mini-pets were introduced. I don't think it would do anything to stabalize the in-game economy.

ANET has said again and again "No monthly fees." They must be doing okay financially with the current model.

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Please stick to the topic if you are planning to reply, all others are ignored.
LMAO!

/not signed

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

/noway .

what's next? selling a full fow.armor-materials pack? don't be ridiculous.

Mee Pok Mee Siam

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Firstly, you seem to be putting a lot of importance on mini pets
Isn't that why i put in title ''An Unlock Pack For All Mini-pets'' You are clearly too blind to see it.

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Sorry but you idea is nonsense because your trying to make a big deal out of something, which isnt a big deal.
Did I stated it in any of my posts that I was making a big deal out of it? You mentioned it, not me.

[Morkai]

[Morkai]

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Heroes of Elonia [HE]

W/Rt

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Originally Posted by Mee Pok Mee Siam
Apart from the Bonus Mission Pack. Why did you say that? As there wasn't any other option of obtaining it then, is it not? So now the Bonus Mission Pack is due to release in the online store, giving players options of obtaining them if they missed the promotion. So why can't it be done for players who want to obtain the third year mini-pets as well if their oldest character is only a year odd other than buying from in-game?
That's not what the OP said is it. You said ALL minipet's..i agree yeah they should have a choice, just as we should get a chance to get all the Festival hat's we never had..but still, it's just another money sink.

X Ice Man X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

England

Mee Pok Mee Siam - Im curious is your next brilliant idea going to be for ANet them selves to start selling GW Gold from the GW Store?

Zydonis

Zydonis

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

Loners United [CULT]

R/

Moronic.

/Notsigned

Alex Morningstar

Alex Morningstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Team Asshat [Hat] leader - [GR] Alliance

Mo/

No.

4567890

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

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Originally Posted by Mee Pok Mee Siam
Isn't that why i put in title ''An Unlock Pack For All Mini-pets'' You are clearly too blind to see it.

Did I stated it in any of my posts that I was making a big deal out of it? You mentioned it, not me.
Clam down little doggy!

I said I didn't mind the idea of a mini pet pack from the online store (as long as it was just the normal variety and no rare ones).

I said you were making a bigger deal out of mini pets then needs to be, because you were suggesting they were a main cause (of many) of botting to generate wealth.

Which may be true for a very small % of the community, but I would seriously question whether anyone would waste their time using a bot to create wealth just for mini pets.

You seemed to be suggesting your "mini pet pack" as a way to prevent or reduce botting, by making all mini pets very easily accessed and unlocked. Believing it would remove the need to use bots to buy the mini pets.

But what you don't seem to realise is that players use bots for a lot more then mini pets. They use bots to attain wealth for a huge variety of things like weapons, rare materials and armor. Would you suggest Anet then release an instore pack to unlock all weapons, all obsideon armor and an ample supply of ectos on demand?

But its your comment suggesting that Anet don't try to fix botting which got me more then anything else. You're questioning Anet's dedication to elimination or reducing bots ingame and I find that pathetic.

Anet has staff working 24/7 to work through data to track down and remove bots and ban accounts for foul play.

But their limited in funds and staff to do it and to contend with thousands of players is not easy.

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

Uhhhh /nowayinhell

Do you want all the people who dedicated months of their lives to get one of these rare minis to suddenly be left with nothing? Do you want them to go KILL themselves? Do you want their blood on your hands??!
In the words of a 9 year old I once knew "YOU CRAZY!!!"


/endsarcsm


Anyways, your idea is preposterous. These items are rare, and ment to stay that way. If this was added to the store, a gazillion people would buy it, and then the minis would be worth nothing, and then everyone would wonder why they spent $25 on filling up their HoM.


This thread has all the potential to be an Epic Flame war.

*Gets popcorn and sits down to watch*

The Little Viking

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

innergalactic gargleblasters

W/Mo

Mini pet packs. thats just funny. Im sorry but NO!!!!!!!!!! If you get lucky, then you will get that rare pet on your birthday. If your not that lucky, then im sorry about your luck. I know my mini lich would not mean as much to me as it does if i had bought it, weather from another player or from a pack. But i got it as a gift from A-net and I thank them. No its not for sale at any price.
Next thing you know, people are gonna want to be able to BUY all titles.
Now as for your comment about a monthly fee...ARE YOU FLIPPIN MAD?????? or just retarted?

arbiter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

that dwarven house in beacons perch

koss

W/

mini pet prices are stable and giving them all away in a pack would DEstabalize them and make them all worthless.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

monthly fee encouragement omfg....

/not signed

minipet packs sound bad
no no and again no!

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

[QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by Mee Pok Mee Siam
First of all, it would help to stabilise the economy for the sales of mini-pets and reduce the people whom are botting for the capital to buy them. Why? The number of botters are still at large and you guys(developers) are still not doing much about it. I seriously wonder how dedicated you guys(developers) are for your game, especially since it is only Guild Wars 1. It seriously dampen my anticipation for Guild Wars 2. Secondly, it also helps to generate income for running the servers.
you are really new here arent you as a while ago they completely UPGRADED the server network recently.

/not signrd

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Why? After experiencing the release of pvp unlock packs and latest of all the bonus mission pack for us to buy, I pity all those players who spent most of their time pvping to get balthazar points in the past, especially when they have forsaken part of their social life or the lack of sleeping sufficiently
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they were having fun doing it which you havent a clue about if you consider playing a game a waste of your time/life.

play something else and stop the whine about not having or being able to aggord the RARE minipet you are so desparate to get.

/mot signed
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also the fact that districts are being merged to save bandwidth recently. Which is pretty hilarious when a monthly fee could just be included and be done with it in the first place.
efficiency as people spreads out results in lower district numbers
MONTHLY FEE AND MOST OF US WOULDNT BE HERE YOU *expletive/diety of choice*

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Please stick to the topic if you are planning to reply, all others are ignored.
///not signed as laughing to hard

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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[QUOTE=Loviatar]
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///not signed as laughing to hard
he said it.



Also this is one of those topics that should be stickied to show how retarted humans can be.

minis aren't worth anything they dont shit but look silly in town. There are a couple that I like but all in all they aren't worth getting and if you think they then do something called...

FARMING!



geeze this topic is just another player who cries on that he can't get a mini kunny or one of those so he wants anet to fix his problem instead of him actually saving up money for it like how some of us did who missed the Factions CE

this thread wins the idiocy award

Sardelic is always great for topic like this

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

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Another gem of Sardelic. It always amazes me how much fail can people put in 1 post.
/notsigned

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Another gem of Sardelic. It always amazes me how much fail can people put in 1 post.
/notsigned
Yeah, but this is up there. One of the all time best.

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

/notsigned

minis are meant to be (duh) birthday presents, and the rare ones are presents for various other things, contests and the like.
an unlock pack would totally kill the mini market. i mean, white first years are all like 5k and under, what would they sell for then? 50g?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

/didn't read past title.
/no, stupid idea BY FAR!
/notsigned

Quick_Prodigy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

In a water bottle

R/Rt

/not signed

You're a moron

fishy go moo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Mo/E

/notsigned epic fail

anyone who quotes me or comments back at me is gay!

Shai Lee

Shai Lee

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Somewhere

I love minipets but still...

/not signed

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

Aside from the OP it's pretty much a one-sided argument.

Not signed/

william1975

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

well i love and want all the mini's, however I want them without having to pay for them like this. Birthday ones i want from birthdays, via trading doubles or recieving, the others i would like from competitions, buying ingaming for gold or by some new ingame method that is difficult to get.

Like Ghostly Hero or Mallyxx

/notsigned

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

So, it's basically like buying gold... but through Anet?

/notsigned?

dread pirate fargus

dread pirate fargus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

in bed

X Peace And Love X [PaL]

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/signed.

i think its a great idea
















































HAHAHAAHAA HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAA
BWAHAHAHAHA. thats just too funny.
suuuure.
moron.

Slotter

Slotter

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Georgia

Mo/

/notsigned

Retarded idea.