After Prophecies

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Note: Regardless of anything, I'm noting possible spoilers in regards to the end of Prophecies. So if anyone complains about me ruining Prophecies, then I know you can't read. Either way, if I am or not, I'm still saying this.

I'm just curious... after you beat Prophecies, that's it. Then again, you're able to tackle the Epilogue Quests, but with every other game, you're allowed to have a free green item from trading a certain special item. Prophecies didn't have this at the time since, we all know Prophecies came first in the series, so I am not surprised when I see people say nothing happens after you complete the final mission.

So here's my question: Should anything be done to give the ending of Prophecies something equal to what the other games have, or should things just be left the way they are?

Kyrein

Kyrein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Island of Undisclosed Location

leave it, prophecies gets the titan quests

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

I agree with Kyrein - Leave it alone.

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyrein
leave it, prophecies gets the titan quests
And those are great and all, but kinda pointless considering how worthless the rewards are.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

"End game" weapons and armour didn't come around until Factions. The Titan quests themselves didn't come around until a few months after Prophecies was released.

Don't expect to get anything added any time soon, they've already stated that they will not make major updates to old chapters, and Prophecies is the oldest.

ectos taste nasty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

what do you get? satisfaction.

the last proph mish is great, and it brings shame to faction & NF bosses. :P

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Even if the mission was nice the final clipscene was so... I cant even find the words to describe it.

Burning Blade

Burning Blade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Syag

Prophecies is the only game that I still play as a real game. It's where I actually read quest notes and look at the environment and I still do now whenever I make new char. Other games are just to farm either loot or titles. So end game is not a big advantage of other games compared to Prophecies

Miska Bow

Miska Bow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

somewhere, Grinding some l33t titles

Order of the Divine WoodChuck

R/

***SPOILER WARNING***

I havent finished Faction yet, but compare to NF and GWEN, Prophecy's got a REAL challenging mission at the end game boss.

Abadon goes down in 5 min, a bit more for the Great Destroyer.

Leave Prophecy as it is pls

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
And those are great and all, but kinda pointless considering how worthless the rewards are.
Some people like skillpoints, kthx.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faer
Some people like skillpoints, kthx.
On the other hand, some have more useless skill points than they will ever use for all the GWEN consumables or Capture Signets in their entire Guild Wars life.

I don't really favor the idea of endgame greens as a reward, but I'd like to see at least something for beating prophecies rather than a few epilogue quests, even if not a major update.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Ummm, green weapons didn't exist when prophecies was first released. That is why they don't have endgame greens.

RedStar

RedStar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

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For me, prophecies is the best game of the 3, but the rewards are a little too poor ; the storyline + scenery does compensate, but I'd really like if prophecies had endgame armors (I don't really care for endgame weapons).

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

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It is sad watching the gradual demise of GW as GW2 moves further along the path to release. Sad, but that's the way it goes.

It would be nice, however, if they could spare the time to add a little end game content to Prophecies. A nice Epilogue section like all subsequent chapters/expanion have had, with, yes, end-game weapons and armour.

Why not?

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faer
Some people like skillpoints, kthx.
I sell you 7 stacks of Stars of Transference, 1750 armbraces ok???????

Biostem

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Prophecies got Sorrow's Furnace added a few months after it was released. If you check Guild Wars Wiki, you'll note a fairly large selection of green items there. You may want to do a little farming, if a green item is what you're after. Now, I do understand how you can be annoyed that Factions and Nightfall give greens after completing them, but they're not the end-all be-all of items, and the weapon models aren't that spectacular either.

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

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Personally I'd rather see them add some big CG scene than add some more greens to the game. Most all of the greens in the game are becoming worthless very fast anyway, not many are over 5K now as it is.

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

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Sure, Prophecies got Sorrow's Furnace - in the same way that Factions got Urgoz's and The Deep and Nightfall got DoA.

Not the same thing at all.

I'm just saying that an epilogue would be nice. Endgame weapons and armor would be appreciated by many - sure, there's a lot of people who don't like greens, but then again there are many of us who like such things as collectors items. Wouldn't trade my old Victo's for the world (wouldn't use it either, but that's not the point )

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miska Bow
I havent finished Faction yet, but compare to NF and GWEN, Prophecy's got a REAL challenging mission at the end game boss.
The actual "final boss" part is easy as hell, the rest is just the "get to boss" part (equivalent to Raisu Palace, Gate of Madness, or Destruction's Depths) and not really that hard either...

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
Note: Regardless of anything, I'm noting possible spoilers in regards to the end of Prophecies. So if anyone complains about me ruining Prophecies, then I know you can't read. Either way, if I am or not, I'm still saying this.

I'm just curious... after you beat Prophecies, that's it. Then again, you're able to tackle the Epilogue Quests, but with every other game, you're allowed to have a free green item from trading a certain special item. Prophecies didn't have this at the time since, we all know Prophecies came first in the series, so I am not surprised when I see people say nothing happens after you complete the final mission.

So here's my question: Should anything be done to give the ending of Prophecies something equal to what the other games have, or should things just be left the way they are?
The ending of Prophecies became The Return to Tyria Eye of the North (Gwen)it is when we Tyrians came home.

Shadowlance.

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

The Prophecy Of Life

R/P

I'd say leave Prophecies alone. Also if you're a dedicated fan of the series it's likely you have all three campaigns plus GW:EN. After a fashion, you can kind of consider the GW:EN Droknar weapons to be the "Tyrian" end-game weapons. In other words, each continent now has a respective set of end-game greens.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by ectos taste nasty
what do you get? satisfaction.

the last proph mish is great, and it brings shame to faction & NF bosses. :P
Lmao.. You're kidding right?..

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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DEFINITELY YES.

They should have added a 'Party at Droknar's Forge' final area.
With a final armor set, a final set of greens (Saidra's Bow, Rurik's Sword, Breknar's Iron Hammer, Titan Hand Axe, Glint's Crystal Caster sets, etc).

Glint's vison giving the quests, King Jallis, the Grenth's Footprint Dwarves asking you to go there, Salma, Evennia, Shadow and the rest of the Shinning Blade telling you that they are heading for the Tarnished coast, the Henchmen, the Lionguard, Ascalonians and Krytans, etc...

And Devona and friends asking you to go with them to Cantha, because Togo is calling Mhenlo.


The area is there... the NPCs are there... the fireworks effects are there...

The only things left are the area scripts, and the armor set, and maybe a couple of skins for the weapons. Although they could just be the ones seen in the cinematics.


The first thing I though when I completed Prophecies was: "Did I copleted prophecies?"

I had to hit M and see the map to check the mission outpost icon.
You get a 'have I finished this?' feel.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

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Titan Armor.....Lichs Staff........DESIGN CONTEST WINNERS.
Just saying some random words carry on.

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

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Slightly off-tupic, but d'you know what I'd like to see? More oversized weapons like Drago's Flatbow. Buster Swords, that sorta thing.

Always wondered if that Drago's was a graphical error ^_^

Faith Angelis

Faith Angelis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
And Devona and friends asking you to go with them to Cantha, because Togo is calling Mhenlo.
In storyline terms, that event happens concurrent to your arrival in Lion's Arch.

This thread is all about greed and nothing to do with anything else; it just comes down to 'gimme more greenz and armor lol!1'

Factions and Nightfall had endgame rewards, but they also had a game mechanic everyone seems to be forgetting: You can't just be run to the last couple of missions! If reward greens or armors were added the Droks run should be blocked and Sanctum Cay locked pending completion of the jungle...

Lady Yuna

Lady Yuna

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

inside your closet.......

ViLE

Mo/W

Leave it alone. Instead of changing prophices's ending, why not just give everyone a key to a end game chest that allows for a one time access somewhere in prophice? But doing that may up heave more demands from players................

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

They should definately add an end-game green or something other than those stupid quests that are hard and not worth the reward you get. Really, who wants nothing but experience at level 20? Sure it's cool to show off millions of experience, but come on.

PinoyRurik

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

PNAS

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ectos taste nasty
what do you get? satisfaction.

the last proph mish is great, and it brings shame to faction & NF bosses. :P
i have to agree to that.

beating proph gets u satisfaction... worth alot more than these endgame green which are as valuable as the common weapon crafter.

P.S.
its the story, variety, and difficulty of prophecies that made it a great GW, not the weapons.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faith Angelis
Factions and Nightfall had endgame rewards, but they also had a game mechanic everyone seems to be forgetting: You can't just be run to the last couple of missions! If reward greens or armors were added the Droks run should be blocked and Sanctum Cay locked pending completion of the jungle...
If green waited at end of droknars run, runners would up prices (i know i would). So economy would take care of it.

Problem imho is not greed - since most people would get #slots greens immediatelly they would be practically worthless, so it would be like giving out what ... 1k? Hardly greed-worthy. Basically hero weapons. Or giveaway-to-newbies weapons.

It would be totally not worth run anyway (why spends several K on runs and about 10 hours of gameplay to get super cheap green.)

Ephidel

Ephidel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

[EE]

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Rather than more endgame content, I'd be pleased with something like a monument for completing The Titan Source, and one for beating the final bosses of ToPK. Perhaps a burning titan for the former, and The Darkness for the latter.

It wouldn't be difficult for the art department, either. Just take one of their old models and add that strange metal color they use for the monuments. Better yet, do like some of the other monuments and don't recolor them at all - just throw the already existing model on.

However, if ANet can't fix the problems they have with the HoM already, I don't expect them to add something like this, however simply implemented it would be.

xhappy feetx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Isle of the Nameless

Black Crescent [BC] / Stonebenders [sC] / The Rimmers [rR]

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im pretty prophicies thoughoroly raped the other campaigns as is........

Faith Angelis

Faith Angelis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ephidel
...I'd be pleased with something like a monument for completing The Titan Source, and one for beating the final bosses of ToPK...
I was a little puzzled why these things weren't included, actually...

jezz

jezz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

R/

nah leave it the way it is..
there are plenty of weapons and rewards in game as it is..besides you get satisfaction of killing a Undead dude using Hundred Blades..hmm who was he again..

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
I sell you 7 stacks of Stars of Transference, 1750 armbraces ok???????
OMG K

o wait i no dupe sry no has armbrace omg 4 u tho i mite farm doaz!

Actually, a few stacks of those would be nice right about now. Alas, I have sunk all my shiny PvE moneyz into shiney PvE wepnz for my (formerly) dull PvP characters.