A simple request...

KalleDamos

KalleDamos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

This has something to do with warriors, I swear. Just hear me out guru.

I was playing Fort Aspenwood today, was bored, wanted something fun to do(I consider it fun) and I came across a bonding monk using Erruption. I died because of the gate eles, and she called me a noob, and has been bugging me for the past 20 some minutes about how warriors suck, they do 50dmg in pvp then die, they need healers to do anything half decent, and the only good skill combo is Quivvering blade and For Great Justice.

~Removed name of idiot player~. Apperntly,according to them, everyone but warriors agree that warriors suck, so please, please educate this nub before I go nuts.

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

I straight up own people on my hammer warrior, i'm mostly doing over 100dmg. I've killed many people in 3-4 skill hits. Thats why I like playing my warrior, because I can do some crazy high dmg. Call her a noob for using eruption.

And don't feel bad, those eles are hard to get past sometimes.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

... meh. What you just encountered is known in science as a 'clueless retard scrub' (or possibly a 'PvEer'). Ignore it.

Or if you need the lulz, ask him to press 'B' and observe the top-100 GvGs. Because, you know... warriors decidedly don't kill shit at the highest levels of play, m i rite?
Ask him, even, to go to the Team Quitter forums or somewhere else where pros hang out (Glad's Arena here?), and start a thread saying 'Warriors suck'. Watch it get torn apart/closed

Personally though, I'd just lol and move on. People who think warriors suck are bad at GW and not worth bothering with.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Are allowed to post names of other's chars and ask people on the boards to communitate with them like this?

Takuna

Takuna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Actually, I've found PvPers to be the most annoying, Alex. But meh, she was indeed a 'clueless retard scrub'. I don't think it's fair to say that any profession in the game is useless. If people play and enjoy them; they are not useless. Plain. And. Simple. You can't argue with that when you consider that the primary purpose of this game is to entertain.

And in any case, there is a reason that warriors are sought after... They're good... >< Some people just don't like to see the obvious because it doesn't make them 'smart'. (In their case: 'stupid'.)

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

I don't think it's allowed to post names, besides, it's not like clueless people like that are worth even a splitsecond of my time. I'd rather be having a conversation with a brick wall.

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Ignore it. Shit happens a lot in the more pve/scrub-friendly arenas like RA/AB/FA.





etc etc... I eventually get hit with every time I visit one of those arenas.

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

W/

Frenzy his face.

IMO!

Cathode_Reborn

Cathode_Reborn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

I only use hammers in low-end pvp. As good as sword/axes can be, I just don't find them useful there...havent used one in ages in that kinda pvp. KD = interrupt, snare, defense, much easier to solo monks....too good to pass up.

As for aspenwood, i dont like playing melee on the lux side - lot's of antimelee will slow you down alot. From my experience, melee-heavy lux teams lose more often.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

If i knew his name, i would laugh and tell him to watch observe GvG.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Or if you need the lulz, ask him to press 'B' and observe the top-100 GvGs. Because, you know... warriors decidedly don't kill shit at the highest levels of play, m i rite? I pressed B and all I saw were sins. All those warriors just stood around not doing damage with this little hex called ineptitude on them

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
If i knew his name, i would laugh and tell him to watch observe GvG. warriors do a whole lot against inoobtitude rite?

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
... is known in science as a 'clueless retard scrub' (or possibly a 'PvEer'). Ignore it.
i loled 12ch

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
I pressed B and all I saw were sins. All those warriors just stood around not doing damage with this little hex called ineptitude on them Ooh, as much as it sucks... Just getting my daily dose of Obs Mode this morning and it honestly isn't that bad Unless all the 'sins are sleeping at 9 am GMT

Surena

Surena

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Me

Well, to an extent it is true. Most warriors in AB/RA/FA spec more into defense (9 in weapon mastery since everything over req 9 apparently blows) than offense while an autoattacking warrior at wm 14 is way deadlier. It's natural that people in those areas get the impression the class fails in damage. However for some it's also natural to be dumb (which we have to expect/respect) and for some it's natural to need evidence to wake up out of their stupidity, so in that case I wish him 20 000 frenzied dev hammer combos in a row without him ever getting up, with no chance of being able to log out/off.

See what I did there?

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Ok, I'm not a PvPer, and I'm told Warriors work well in PvP, I don't know, and don't care. But I can say that I think Warriors are ment to take high damage and deal a decently high amount of damage, in other words, they try to take the damage while Ele's, Necro's, etc deal nicely high damage. That is from a PvEer's perspective so I doupt that is the case for PvP. In the few PvP battles I have been in, I will say that warriors either suck big time, or pwn because they won't die.

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
... meh. What you just encountered is known in science as a 'clueless retard scrub' (or possibly a 'PvEer'). Ignore it. I think you just won the thread

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

I played a game of AB onthe weekend and the Kurzicks showed up with 9 wars and 3 monks...they owned us so bad it was really painfull.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
Ok, I'm not a PvPer, and I'm told Warriors work well in PvP, I don't know, and don't care. But I can say that I think Warriors are ment to take high damage and deal a decently high amount of damage, in other words, they try to take the damage while Ele's, Necro's, etc deal nicely high damage. That is from a PvEer's perspective so I doupt that is the case for PvP. In the few PvP battles I have been in, I will say that warriors either suck big time, or pwn because they won't die. I'll edit this post later, because I'm in McDonalds later and the free 20mins of wireless they give in HK is running out...

But basically, Warriors deal a very decent amount of damage. More than an Ele. Quite possibly more than a Necro. And in PvP, Warriors who know how to do their thing won't suck big time, but if you're with a semi-decent team they shouldn't really "pwn because they won't die"...unless they're griefing.

Riotgear

Riotgear

has 3 pips of HP regen.

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Objective Is More [Cash]

W/

Quote:
I was playing Fort Aspenwood today The problem is this is Fort Aspenwood, easily the WORST place for a Warrior. You have no enchant removal, you get ledge-sniped and can't do anything about it, your self-defense blows unless it takes up your entire skillbar, and you're facing a bunch of anti-melee NPCs.

In FA Luxon-side, the best thing you can do is pack a Mesmer or Necro that can cut down enchant stacks and/or make monks behind the gate explode so the turtlecannon and its goon squad can beat everything up.

If you really want to see what a Warrior can do in PvP, just play somewhere else.

hurdlebeast

hurdlebeast

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo-Smashing Beast; Mo-Monk Beast

E/Me

KD hammer warrior is great in AB. i love it, i can set up a solo target with a 4 second knockdown, weakness + deep wound, blindness to all adjacent and be unblockable to boot.

[skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Backbreaker[/skill][skill]Pulverizing Smash[/skill][skill]Belly Smash[/skill][skill]Warrior's Cunning[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]"To The Limit!"[/skill][skill]Endure Pain[/skill]

or, for an PBAoE knockdown attack:

[skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Earth shaker[/skill][skill]Yeti Smash[/skill][skill]Belly Smash[/skill][skill]Pulverizing Smash[/skill][skill]Warrior's Cunning[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Endure Pain[/skill]

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

Drop endure pain and warrior's cunning.

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

W/N

Warriors have the best spike and pressure damage in this game last I thought...

Deep Wound spam? totally plausible. I'd like to see a caster in GW do 100 unavoidable unresistable damage in one shot on a foe with full hp and high armor.

Pressure? DS-FGJ DPS = unmatched

Other warriors in other online RPGs can't compare to the GW warrior. Wish I could come back to this game though, not many people for me to play with sadly... I hope they release GW2 soon!

I'll always remember the innovation presented by Anet. A melee warrior can actually make a HUGE difference in the realm of doing the killing.

LockerLoad

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki
I'd like to see a caster in GW do 100 unavoidable unresistable damage in one shot on a foe with full hp and high armor. Obsidian Flame with 13 Earth magic?

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Augury of Death in gimmicks?

Warriors (or melee in general, not including Assassins) don't necessarily have the numerical advantage over other damage-built characters. However, what they are is a very flexible, adaptable threat that generally functions at extremely high efficiency compared to other damage characters.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Unfortunately warriors lose that efficiency entirely in unsupported skirmish situations. They become extremely vulnerable to shutdown, and tend to be a slow starter because of the adrenaline mechanic. What's worse, you generally don't care much about high single target pressure in AB/FA. You either want AoE to clear NPC balls quickly, or quick spiky damage to win skirmishes. Warriors aren't the best at either one.

Sadly, this leads to a lot of people playing crappy tank warriors in these areas, then bringing them into TA and such.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Ah, what you say is true. I forgot the context of the thread.

Trvth Jvstice

Trvth Jvstice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

HALE

W/

I win more often than losing in Ft Aspenwood when I play W/E hammer/knockdown. I have to admit though, my SS Nec does better there. I only play Luxon in Ft Aspenwood, so there has to be someone there with enchant removal. It always sucks there as W/? and when you start, you see the rest of your team is all Assassin, Warriors and Rangers, the bonding monk behind the shield laughing the whole time...