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pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

28 Jan 2008 at 00:40 - 41

Lol, I usually get that when I'm a monk. What I do, is I heal the entire party except that person. They usually shut up really quick when they keep dying and the rest of the team start whining at THEM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

I ignore them.
If they ask me to change builds, I change them, ping them, and go back to the build I want.

At all times my build works better than the stupid things they pretend me to use.

Then they never notice, because my builds are better than the ones they gave me, XD.
Sometimes, after that, they tell me 'Told you mine was better'.
I don't know why they get so angry when I ping my build then, XD.

Hey, if the monster dies in 3 seconds and after than I keep 95% energy, who cares which build I used?

Ehehe, I do that all the time! Usually it's not worth arguing and you just do whatever the hell you want anyway.

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

28 Jan 2008 at 01:50 - 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kusandaa

Roughly the same. I let people spam-PM me until they get tired

A certain reptile comes to mind..

I'm a very acidic, sarcastic person. If someone's being a jackass I'm not afraid to let them know... and more.

Cargan

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Scotland

[ESP]

W/

28 Jan 2008 at 02:02 - 43

Yeah, this is the reason I have decided not to return to DoA without a full guild/alliance group again. ever since the 2xSS/LB weekend everyone who has maxed their LB thinks they're leet and can do DoA. Really, 2.5 hours to do ONLY Foundry & City due to stupid arrogant pug deaths is not OK.

I'm one of those people who is pretty much always a leader, normally being appointed by the party since I'm decisive. No matter how much you try to help some people succeed in such high end places, they always think they know better and get themselves killed and blame it on the rest of the party.

Even when you think you can avoid it in your alliance, I logged on the other week to hear a couple of complaints about an alliance member calling others noobs. I logged on as a lesser used character and suffered the same accusations of being a noob despite them not knowing who the person behind the character was. needless to say it resulted in me releasing their whole guild from the alliance as decent people should not have to put up with that kind of arrogance.

I have the same reasoning everywhere on the internet. There's millions of people on the internet and you do not NEED to tolerate the idiots out there. Effective use of the kick/ignore button can save a lot of people a lot of stress.

If someone is annoying to the point where I don't want to remain in the party to finish what we're doing, I make it clear to everyone the reason that I'm leaving and that they can thank them for the party failure.

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

28 Jan 2008 at 02:59 - 44

Don't retaliate with insults, just be completely random...really pisses them off for some reason

Nodensis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

United Provinces of the Netherlands

Legend of the White [Moa]

Rt/A

28 Jan 2008 at 03:07 - 45

Ask them nicely how they would've done it.

1. 99% gives a GO RED ENGINE response, say that they are wrong and why. Rinse, repeat.
2. 1% gives a good, ragequiting, but right response. Ask them to have more patience and advise the group next time. (if they wont, see 1, rinse, repeat)

Veripare

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada, Ontario

28 Jan 2008 at 03:57 - 46

I tell them to find healing/protection/restoration elsewhere then stop healing them. If on a melee profession I kick back, relax, and watch them take all the aggro and let them (fail to) deal with it.

It's quite simply really - karma. What goes around comes around.

I Dont Do Coke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Japan

28 Jan 2008 at 05:27 - 47

Turn off chat. Or if I'm in Spamadan, turn on trade chat.

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

28 Jan 2008 at 05:36 - 48

OP: You're bad.

(j/k)

Seriously, though: ask yourself the following questions:

1) What is your relative experience level? He/she/it may be right.

2) Any past behavior that can guide you? I tend to discount claims by players of cookie-cutters that a build is "optimal", even if it wins. Claims uninformed by theory are almost always wrong. "It's good and everyone else does it" is not a justification for any argument.

3) Point #2 doesn't necessarily hold when it comes to HOW to play a given bar. The cookie-cutter player may get a lot more mileage out of the same 8 skills than you, and this may be why this player wins matches/has an ego.

4) The only way to distinguish whether or not other people are right in their claims is to learn the theory of the game. If this isn't for you, either learn to grin and bear it, ignore them, learn to defuse the situation with humor or uninstall. Any other alternative usually makes you at least as much of an idiot in the minds of other players observing the interaction.

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

28 Jan 2008 at 05:38 - 49

H/H everything, including HM, except for some missions (usually varesh, shiro, great destroyer etc)

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

28 Jan 2008 at 05:44 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turtle222

Don't retaliate with insults, just be completely random...really pisses them off for some reason

lol, yeah, it certainly used to for me when I pugged. Southpark quotes for the most part, esp : "Mckay, Mr Mackey." or "Imps are bad, children, mckay? Don't do imps,mckay. Cause imps are bad."

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

28 Jan 2008 at 06:30 - 51

If in a group with a retarded leader - either leave (usually) or if I'm bored, I stay and do my very best to sabotage them.

If leader - I ask for builds, if people ping shit builds I explain to them why it doesn't work and what builds DO work. If they accept the new build, good. If they refuse, /kick.

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

28 Jan 2008 at 07:18 - 52

Since you are playing in a team, you should at least listen to the leader.
If you are the leader and someone does not listen and keep a crap build: kick.
If you are not the leader and you want to run whatever you want, start your own team.
When I lead, I expect people to know what they are doing.
Part of the selection in PUG is their build. Not that I always want cookie cutter, but a build should at least look like it could work in the team.
If you want to experience Guild Wars your way and with your (in my opinion insufficient) build, please do so but not in my team.
Elitism? One could call it that way.
However, since Hard Mode is less forgiving and I play HM most of the time I think I am allowed to do so.
Not because I don't like you, but because there are 6 other players that also want to get things done.
Please keep in mind that I am very easy on builds, I even allow players without Elite skills if the rest of the build fits in the team.
I do understand that players might not have capped certain Elites.
I can work around that, even in Hard Mode.
But failing to produce a build that fits in the team is a good reason for a kick

sagilltwins

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

Your Mom's House

香港,poke, mad, BECK, nH

A/W

28 Jan 2008 at 07:21 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by lacasner

everything except guild and alliance chat = off.

solved.

don't forget to set yourself to Do Not Disturb or Offline to block those pming nubs...

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

In my own little world, looking at yours

Only Us[NotU]

E/

28 Jan 2008 at 15:15 - 54

--Ping what they want, and change back--
or
--Use what they want, even though I do not know how to use it, and cause the mission to fail--
or
--not bother with them and find another group--

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

28 Jan 2008 at 15:22 - 55

heh, I chalk it up to us all playing a game that lends itself to people that are considerably younger than me, and that in time they will learn how to act around other humans

Vl Vl D

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Australia

[DVDF]

28 Jan 2008 at 15:49 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by lacasner

everything except guild and alliance chat = off.

solved.

^case closed or just leave Americain dis.

Quote:

Some people do suck though, nothing wrong with offering them some advice.

haha.

Estic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mongoose United

28 Jan 2008 at 15:55 - 57

Don't PUG. Or do what lacasner does.

Johnny_Chang

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

28 Jan 2008 at 16:07 - 58

It's easy to deal with these people, especially knowing that I am in fact better than everybody

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

28 Jan 2008 at 16:26 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny_Chang

It's easy to deal with these people, especially knowing that I am in fact better than everybody

The world will bow to your E-peen!

Back to you're basement, troll.

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

28 Jan 2008 at 16:51 - 60

i just turn off my monitor and keep on playing.

Aerian_Skybane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

House of Caeruleous [HoC]

R/E

28 Jan 2008 at 17:16 - 61

No matter what situation I am in (mostly H/H anyways), whether it be in town, in a explorable, or in a mission, I do one thing. I can always restart. No mission is SO hard that its worth the stress of an e-peen ahole.

I strip down (I am a male, female will not work as well because of the immaturity of aholes that do this in the first place), and then "hump" them.

100% success rate. Its super effective when they /report you for it. Apparently even your online avatar must be homophobic.

Angelic Upstart

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

South Coast UK

[SBS] [RETIRED]

W/E

28 Jan 2008 at 17:34 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sujoy

it aint their fault if you fail at the game... stop echo mending!

I had a mouthful of tea when i read that, most of it is still in my keyboard..

I lol'd hard at that.

On topic, i basically just rip the piss out of them if they are obnoxious, bigheaded or just plain rude, watch the bugger rage quit...works for me

But then again i dont PuG as much as i used to so i dont see much of it.

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

28 Jan 2008 at 18:37 - 63

couple days ago i was tanking duncan quest and got flamed by some child because i had a rubberband lag. i guess he thought i did it on purpose. i told the party to remember who's fault it was right before i left like 5 minutes away from duncan. i think i laughed for like 5 minutes while i went and got something to eat

Olim Chill

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

USA

DMI

N/

28 Jan 2008 at 18:37 - 64

OP: Lots of factors involved... but overall I'd say if a blowhard is ruining your game, say goodbye, in the manner you prefer, and try another group.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator

I'm probably one of those "egotistical" people you are talking about. With that said, the only reason why I may act egotistical with you is because you are arguing with me when I am far superior to you. If you just do what I say without arguing through your ignorance than my condescending comments would be avoided.

No matter how good you are, or think you are, an attitude like that makes you a loser in my book.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

28 Jan 2008 at 18:47 - 65

I normally listen to what they say, and do an evaluation as to (1) they are suggesting something that may improve my game or (2) determine that they want me to conform to what they want me to do, without regard as to whether it is better or not.

If it is the latter, I simply put them on ignore and go about my business. There's no need to be bitter towards someone that may be half my age...especially when you're playing the game to have FUN.

Honestly, listening to people may be the best way to get better at the game. When you slice through the condescending tone, every once in a while you pick up a nice nugget of information that you might not have considered. This is an invaluable skill to learn, especially in PvP.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

28 Jan 2008 at 20:07 - 66

I see a LOT of THEM in this thread.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

28 Jan 2008 at 20:28 - 67

Nothing wrong with being egotistical in GW to a certain extent.

Simple fact: 99% of PUGs in GW are horrendously terrible at playing the game. A player who is semi-competent or better at playing the game will always be a million times better than any average PUG player. To acknowlege this is simply calling a spade a spade. It may be "egotistical", but it's simply reality. To pretend PUG players are on par with decent players would be to deny reality, and open one's self to aggravating, failure-based gameplay. This form of egotism is not wrong.

Question in the OP should not be how to deal with egotistical players. Question should instead be, how to deal with really bad players who wanna PUG with good players and leech off of their skills, despite the bad players not having a sane, semi-decent skillbar to make their occupation of a party slot worthwhile. How to deal with that is simply not to play with any PUG players ever.

Although there is a second form of egotism in GW, this form in which the aforementioned horrible PUG players try to dictate to the good players how to play. That second form of egotism is wrong. The solution is the same either way. Never play with any PUG players, ever.

Rexxar_BiH

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Sarajevo, BiH

The Divine Shadowstones

R/E

28 Jan 2008 at 20:30 - 68

well i really dont meet ppl who are behaving like smart-asses and critisize my build or playing. when they give some advice i take it. i'm not the best gw player out there thats for sure. but ofcourse if u meet ppl who are like: OMG N00B bla bla bla --->ignore.
i really cant let someone bring burning arrow or searing flames ele while we're fighting destroyers or ranger with some ele skill bar.

Elnai

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Top Rating Loss Guild 5/25

Maybe.. I don't really know.

R/

28 Jan 2008 at 20:44 - 69

Usually these people suck pretty bad, and if by the rare chance it's when I'm monking in PvE (usually with guild, getting like 1-2 pugs), we all agree not to heal that person or rez them. Thats about it. If they start PMing me, /ignore.

Billeh

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

New York

Crew of the Forsaken[LaZy]

E/

28 Jan 2008 at 21:16 - 70

If I am playing as my monk, I do nothing to help them and watch them die.