Weapon choices for the generic SY/TNTF Paragon?

atm I run Ld12. I'm just a sucker for big bars Then why the zealous and +5 mod? Are you even running any shouts or chants?

According to wiki (here), adrenaline does not stack beyond 100%, so wouldn't a Furious mod be redundant while you have a constant +100% from Focused Anger and "For Great Justice!"?


note sure if he's right, but apparently furious is redundant

Gotta get up to lv20 for SY!, current Para's only 16 yet. SY! is an allegiance skill, so as long as you have at least rank 1 on either side(kurzick or luxon), you can get the skill with 3k faction in the respective side.

Back on topic.

I use vamp, sundering/elemental (sundering if when I go with an order guy, elemental for when I don't), bow for pulling, and staff with +20e for emergency (like to put up AR after rez, etc.)

SY! is an allegiance skill, so as long as you have at least rank 1 on either side(kurzick or luxon), you can get the skill with 3k faction in the respective side. I believe you have to be level 20 to buy the allegiance skills.

And yes Furious is redundant when you have permanent double adrenaline from FA-FGJ.

If that's true then why does focused anger go beyond 100%? Adrenaline boosters don't stack beyond 100%, but individual buffs can go past it. Focused Anger does exactly what it says it does.

I believe you have to be level 20 to buy the allegiance skills. oops, must have missed that update then nm lol

Oddly, I run a Furious spear for that build, to increase adren gain (I dont use AR as im going for survivor, i know - crazy). Never thought about the fact that it conflicts with FA. Ah well, I guess it helps when im out of FA. FA + FGJ! = win

Adrenaline boosters don't stack beyond 100%, but individual buffs can go past it. Focused Anger does exactly what it says it does. Focused Anger is broke as it has been for quite a long time. It does NOT go above 100% even though individual skills are supposed to, so the only use for having it above 10 leadership is to counter soothing, which isn't even a priority in 99% of cases.

As for Furious mods, Technically it would be redundant as the 'double adrenaline' from furious and adrenaline gained from FGJ!/FA is indeed -stacking-. Therefor it is capped at +100%. Whether or not it is bugged and doesn't follow this rule is beyond me. Someone would have to test this.

Focused Anger is broke as it has been for quite a long time. It does NOT go above 100% even though individual skills are supposed to, so the only use for having it above 10 leadership is to counter soothing, which isn't even a priority in 99% of cases.

As for Furious mods, Technically it would be redundant as the 'double adrenaline' from furious and adrenaline gained from FGJ!/FA is indeed -stacking-. Therefor it is capped at +100%. Whether or not it is bugged and doesn't follow this rule is beyond me. Someone would have to test this. Ye but less leadership means
less energy
less duration of "There's nothing to fear"
I've 12 spear (10+1+1)
9 Command (for shield)
14 leadership (12+2, 35hp less is not so bad i've 565 hp)
So i've 7 energy return and tntf lasts for 11sec

Focused Anger is broke as it has been for quite a long time. It does NOT go above 100% even though individual skills are supposed to, so the only use for having it above 10 leadership is to counter soothing, which isn't even a priority in 99% of cases. No, it was fixed some time ago. I checked this morning: Final Thrust is 240 adrenal points; Focused Anger at 14 Leadership charged it in 4 hits, which is consistent with +140% adrenaline (25*2.4=60 adrenal points, 240/60=4 hits to charge) and not +100% adrenaline (25*2=50 adrenal points, 240/50~5 hits to charge).

Ye but less leadership means
less energy
less duration of "There's nothing to fear"
I've 12 spear (10+1+1)
9 Command (for shield)
14 leadership (12+2, 35hp less is not so bad i've 565 hp)
So i've 7 energy return and tntf lasts for 11sec I never advised using it at 10 leadership, though. Was just stating a fact.

I never advised using it at 10 leadership, though. Was just stating a fact. I didn't say that you're wrong only my preference. I prefer gain 2 more energy and 2 seconds more in tntf