this is what i made out:
mysticism 12+1+3
hammer mastery 12
crude swing
whirlwind attack
optional attack
heart of fury
i am the strongest
eternal aura
avatar of lyssa {e}
optional utility
hammer dervish?
blockkiller
Turtle222
yea it works, but..a normal lyssa build is more effective 
Dreamwar
Should definitely put in more hammer attack skills. Seems nice, tho!
blockkiller
any advice for more hammer attacks, because i don't know what the best attacks are, they only do damage when the target has some sort of condition, so i need 2 attacks, 1 for the condition, 1 for the damage
Coloneh
lyssa + hammer = anti-synergy
hammers are slow. if you want a cool weapon to use with lyssa try daggers.
hammers are slow. if you want a cool weapon to use with lyssa try daggers.
Sir Pandra Pierva
Why would you use a ava hammer derv just go normal if you wanna look cool
I run a devastating hammer dervish for kicks sometimes and becuase when dervish wield a hammer it just looks cool cause its really improbable ways a swinging it.
I run a devastating hammer dervish for kicks sometimes and becuase when dervish wield a hammer it just looks cool cause its really improbable ways a swinging it.
blockkiller
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
lyssa + hammer = anti-synergy
hammers are slow. if you want a cool weapon to use with lyssa try daggers. hammers do more damage and can hit adjectment foes with the skills i use so loads of damage to multiple targets + i use IAS
hammers are slow. if you want a cool weapon to use with lyssa try daggers. hammers do more damage and can hit adjectment foes with the skills i use so loads of damage to multiple targets + i use IAS
Coloneh
your not utilizing your avatar. its still anti-synergy.
Arkantos
So basically instead of taking a scythe that can hit up to 3 foes, can use 1/4 seconds attacks and spec 13+ in, you're using a hammer? I don't understand why.
aTT!kus
bad idea. if you want a hammer use a warrior or ranger
Marverick
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Originally Posted by blockkiller
hammers do more damage and can hit adjectment foes with the skills i use so loads of damage to multiple targets + i use IAS
Scythes do more base damage than hammers, and with Aura of Holy Might, Scythes own every other weapon for damage.
Scythes hit up to 3 adjacent foes without using skills.
Your point?
Scythes hit up to 3 adjacent foes without using skills.
Your point?
Magikarp
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Originally Posted by Marverick
Scythes do more base damage than hammers, and with Aura of Holy Might, Scythes own every other weapon for damage.
Scythes hit up to 3 adjacent foes without using skills.
Your point? not by much damage wise.. only by like .3 damage. also, warriors can keep up IAS's perma style, while dervs cant for the most part on their own. Aura helps seal the deal, and dont think i'm advocating the OPs post, he needs to stick to scythes or daggers for lyssa.
Scythes hit up to 3 adjacent foes without using skills.
Your point? not by much damage wise.. only by like .3 damage. also, warriors can keep up IAS's perma style, while dervs cant for the most part on their own. Aura helps seal the deal, and dont think i'm advocating the OPs post, he needs to stick to scythes or daggers for lyssa.
MsMassacre
I used to use daggers with lyssa but have had a change of heart for four reasons;
1. Using a scythe allows me to use conjure frost for MORE extra damage
2. Aura of holy might.
3. Eremite's and mystic. Yes, daggers attack faster, but the two fast activating scythe attacks do a much better job allowing you to nail your window of opportunity than the faster attack rate of a dagger or a warrior weapon with IAS. What's better synergy with lyssa's than fast hits? On-demand hits!
4. Radiant scythe. It has wonderful synergy with lyssa's energy bonus, practically garunteeing +50 damage every time. And the best part is that it gives you a really powerful attack even if your foes are so inconsiderate as to not activate skills.
1. Using a scythe allows me to use conjure frost for MORE extra damage
2. Aura of holy might.
3. Eremite's and mystic. Yes, daggers attack faster, but the two fast activating scythe attacks do a much better job allowing you to nail your window of opportunity than the faster attack rate of a dagger or a warrior weapon with IAS. What's better synergy with lyssa's than fast hits? On-demand hits!
4. Radiant scythe. It has wonderful synergy with lyssa's energy bonus, practically garunteeing +50 damage every time. And the best part is that it gives you a really powerful attack even if your foes are so inconsiderate as to not activate skills.
Sir Pandra Pierva
[skill]Heart of Fury[/skill]
Random Dagger chain
I hit the window with that just fine
Though a scythe is more fun simply for the fact that if you hit 3 people activating slow skills.......gg
Random Dagger chain
I hit the window with that just fine
Though a scythe is more fun simply for the fact that if you hit 3 people activating slow skills.......gg
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by MsMassacre
1. Using a scythe allows me to use conjure frost for MORE extra damage
2. Aura of holy might. AOHM = Holy Damage = no conjure
2. Aura of holy might. AOHM = Holy Damage = no conjure
NamelessBeauty
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Originally Posted by blockkiller
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AOHM = Holy Damage = no conjure
I checked it, Aura of Holy Might does not make your attack become holy. Hence, conjure will work. Not like Judge's Insight!
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Aura_of_Holy_Might
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Aura_of_Holy_Might
Earth
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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty
I checked it, Aura of Holy Might does not make your attack become holy. Hence, conjure will work. Not like Judge's Insight!
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Aura_of_Holy_Might Anomaly! Though not mentioned in the description, when used with a scythe this skill changes damage to Holy damage.
Read better.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Aura_of_Holy_Might Anomaly! Though not mentioned in the description, when used with a scythe this skill changes damage to Holy damage.
Read better.
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty
I checked it, Aura of Holy Might does not make your attack become holy. Hence, conjure will work. Not like Judge's Insight!
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Aura_of_Holy_Might so those undead just have like -100 armor then?
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Aura_of_Holy_Might so those undead just have like -100 armor then?
Sir Pandra Pierva
of course noob dont you know anything
~ Dan ~
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
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Quote:
I checked it, Aura of Holy Might does not make your attack become holy. Hence, conjure will work. Not like Judge's Insight!
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Aura_of_Holy_Might I like how he posts the wiki link, but fails to read the whole page.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Aura_of_Holy_Might I like how he posts the wiki link, but fails to read the whole page.
blockkiller
one daggers are bad with AoL in pve because they hit only one foe
with the hammer i can hit all adjectment foes, if i hit them twice with the AoL bonus i would do mayby 200 damage to certain foes, with a scythe i mayby hit 250 damage to max 3 foes
with the hammer i can hit all adjectment foes, if i hit them twice with the AoL bonus i would do mayby 200 damage to certain foes, with a scythe i mayby hit 250 damage to max 3 foes
iridescentfyre
If you're going to bother giving up your scythe for a hammer, you better be knocking shit down.
bpphantom
D'Oh! I need to start farming my factions faction faction.... where was I? Oh yeah. I need to start farming that stuff more 
[skill]Vow of Strength[/skill] + [skill]Aura of Holy Might[/skill] = *fwish!* *pop!*
[skill]Vow of Strength[/skill] + [skill]Aura of Holy Might[/skill] = *fwish!* *pop!*
makosi
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Originally Posted by iridescentfyre
If you're going to bother giving up your scythe for a hammer, you better be knocking shit down.
Exactly. That's the reason why people use Hammers 99.9% of the time.
A Scythe destroys anything, anywhere in PvE anyway so I don't see why you'd want a hammer.
It might be fun in RA but Rangers will always be better at using a hammer than a Dervish.
A Scythe destroys anything, anywhere in PvE anyway so I don't see why you'd want a hammer.
It might be fun in RA but Rangers will always be better at using a hammer than a Dervish.
Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by blockkiller
with the hammer i can hit all adjectment foes,
Never knew the hammer hit people like a scythe....
Never knew the hammer hit people like a scythe....
The Meth
Hammers can hit all adjacent foes, its just limited to 1 at a time lol.
Seriously though, hammers are made for knockdown. If you aren't using knockdowns you should be using either a scythe for damage or a faster attack weapon for more hits.
BTW, putting yourself in as many enemies as you can, then using crude swing on a dervish makes you take almost as much damage as wammos using frenzy and healsig. You will have 40 armor, is that really a good idea on the frontline?
Seriously though, hammers are made for knockdown. If you aren't using knockdowns you should be using either a scythe for damage or a faster attack weapon for more hits.
BTW, putting yourself in as many enemies as you can, then using crude swing on a dervish makes you take almost as much damage as wammos using frenzy and healsig. You will have 40 armor, is that really a good idea on the frontline?
Sir Pandra Pierva
lol.
running hammers for kicks on a dervish=fun times
running hammers for serious play on a dervish=fail
running hammers for kicks on a dervish=fun times
running hammers for serious play on a dervish=fail
isamu kurosawa
If your intent on using a hammer on a dervish then lyssa realy isn't the way to go. as stated before, there in no synergy between the two.
I'd suggest using PvE skills, VoS, desp/drunken blow + fleeting stability.
Or preferably just use a scythe.
I'd suggest using PvE skills, VoS, desp/drunken blow + fleeting stability.
Or preferably just use a scythe.
Sir Pandra Pierva
with lyssa there is no reason just go hammer spike if you really wanna use a hammer dervish, the spike will suck but i guess you can look like a railroad worker in a dress
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
lyssa + hammer = anti-synergy
hammers are slow. if you want a cool weapon to use with lyssa try daggers. If you're going Lyssa you should run Scythes over Daggers any day. With the buff to pious assault, a dervishes ability to keep rush or any other speed boost up, and some 1/2 attack skills, you're putting out better DPS than daggers ever would. Not to mention you've free'd up your secondary allowing you to take a better secondary such as /w for Bull's Strike, Rush, Wild Blow, etc
hammers are slow. if you want a cool weapon to use with lyssa try daggers. If you're going Lyssa you should run Scythes over Daggers any day. With the buff to pious assault, a dervishes ability to keep rush or any other speed boost up, and some 1/2 attack skills, you're putting out better DPS than daggers ever would. Not to mention you've free'd up your secondary allowing you to take a better secondary such as /w for Bull's Strike, Rush, Wild Blow, etc
snoopypup248
Yeah, instead of wasting time with a hammer I would go back to the Dervish ways and put your skills back into scythe.
With the 3-person hitting ability and the ability to spread conditions that way, it seems more efficient.
And since it seems your investing with PvE skills I would try and optimize with the Luxon/Kurzick PvE skills.
With the 3-person hitting ability and the ability to spread conditions that way, it seems more efficient.
And since it seems your investing with PvE skills I would try and optimize with the Luxon/Kurzick PvE skills.