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Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

02 Feb 2008 at 02:08 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkWasp

Gold selling is really getting out of hand these days in any game. I bet they come from the same place that sends everyone about 600 million male enhancement junkmails every day.

I say the FBI needs to split up into two departments, Standard and Internet.

It may seem like we're only playing a game, but this gold selling stuff is very serious.

They already do and I don't live in the US but they wouldn't do anything about this as it is up to NCSoft and Anet.There is a person in my guild who was getting lots of these this morning and she is getting annoyed my suggestion to her will be keep all your char at the guild hall when looking for things.I would say it is the main hubs like LA,Kamaden,KC and GToB.I stay away from The great Temple anyway I don't like all the smack talk.

The only solution though is to have an uncheck mark in the Whisper much like unchecking local chat so that no one can whisper you.i have trade unchecked so I don't listen to trade chat and only use the party window for that.

erk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Australia

02 Feb 2008 at 03:26 - 82

The FBI can't do that much and shouldn't have to, folks like Itemcoo.com are in china if you look up the domain owner. A.net can stop all this by adjusting their software to prevent in game advertising, problem solved as. It's just like any larger corporation they are crippled internally at getting things done.

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

04 Feb 2008 at 03:17 - 83

For the last few days ive been getting the same message over and over and ironicly ONLY in american districts, and mainly in kamadan, lions and the shing jea monastary.

Its pathetic really, and its always from the same website they are promoting.

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

04 Feb 2008 at 03:38 - 84

Here's a solution:
Add a dropdown menu (Or a toggle) with the following options:
Recieve no PMs (Essentially the same as DnD or Offline)
Recieve PMs only from guildmates, allys, and friends
Recieve PMs only from friends and guildmates
Recieve PMs only from guildmates and allys
Recieve PMs only from friends and allys (Etc. with all possible combos of Guildmates, Friends, and Allys)
Recieve PMs from all people.

That would help with not only goldseller spam, but random harrassment from that person you just demolished in RAs.

erk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Australia

04 Feb 2008 at 03:53 - 85

I would like to see the interface options to:

Turn of chat balloons being visible.
Receive PM's from only Guildies/Alliance and Friends list.

However if they just made Trial accounts unable to use any form of chat other than Team Chat it would solve the problem. With some sort of friendly message "This feature is available in the retail version".

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

04 Feb 2008 at 04:12 - 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by erk

I would like to see the interface options to:

Turn of chat balloons being visible.
Receive PM's from only Guildies/Alliance and Friends list.

However if they just made Trial accounts unable to use any form of chat other than Team Chat it would solve the problem. With some sort of friendly message "This feature is available in the retail version".

I'd like the "friends/guildies/allies only" whisper option. I rarely sell and there aren't a whole lot of people I want to chat with, so I'm not even joking when I say I'd never use any other option. I was farting around in Shing Jea, buying cheap versions of armor to test combos before buying any max versions, and in the 20 minutes I was there I was spammed no less than 10 times. I was talking to a friend in PM and didn't want to go DND, and the spammers were district hopping so I couldn't do much to report them.

I ignored one, but several other names came up and frankly, I really shouldn't have to ignore every other gibberishy name in popular towns. My ignore list isn't big enough anyway.

I don't think Team Chat only is a good idea, though. First you'd need to get a team, and after panics like the Pre-Searing kidnapping thing last year (plus the quality of your average PUG), most people don't accept unsolicited party invites. And how else can an honest trial account get a little help?

Oh, and big thanks to Gaile and ANet for recognizing this problem and acting on it. Sure, it's not a game-breaking bug or economy-ruining exploit, but it's really RED ENGINEing annoying to anyone who occasionally stops to chat in Local when there's any conversation beyond "PLZ JOIN MUH GILD".

erk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Australia

04 Feb 2008 at 11:56 - 87

Quote:

Originally Posted by genofreek

I don't think Team Chat only is a good idea, though. First you'd need to get a team, and after panics like the Pre-Searing kidnapping thing last year (plus the quality of your average PUG), most people don't accept unsolicited party invites. And how else can an honest trial account get a little help?

Can't you use the party search window for that or does it need whisper enabled?

vixro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Stranded Among New Players [SANP]

Mo/

04 Feb 2008 at 11:58 - 88

Here's a good one, just restrict trial accounts from being able to use chat!

Or even better, restrict trial accounts and get rid of them!

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

04 Feb 2008 at 12:15 - 89

Quote:

Originally Posted by vixro

Here's a good one, just restrict trial accounts from being able to use chat!

Or even better, restrict trial accounts and get rid of them!

Read the whole thread rather than just a few posts or the OP. The reason why this is not a good idea (would restrict the experience of new users and not show them the game as it really is) is stated.

vixro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Stranded Among New Players [SANP]

Mo/

04 Feb 2008 at 23:40 - 90

I did read the whole thread. It's the perfect alternative to reducing chat, because then you want to buy the game to talk.

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

04 Feb 2008 at 23:47 - 91

When you go into gtob for whatever reason just go DnD for a little bit, unless of course you're a busy man.

flclisgreat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

been using this avatar IRL for ever

No I Wont join your guild[stfu]

D/

05 Feb 2008 at 02:31 - 92

Quote:

Originally Posted by IslandHermet

1 to 2 every once in a while is nothing but 1 every 15 mins is enought for me to drop GW in the trash can.

thats what it is getting to for me

Johnny_Chang

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

05 Feb 2008 at 05:42 - 93

I don't know if this has been posted or not but try trading with these bots. It says they're using a "demo version" of the game and cannot be traded with. I found this really weird.

MaDDoG1221

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Perth, Australia

DOTR

D/

05 Feb 2008 at 08:17 - 94

Would limiting the trial keys per IP help the problem?

Chrono Re delle Ere

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Land of Hyrule

[GoE]

W/

05 Feb 2008 at 08:40 - 95

lol yesterday I went in an american district for the first time after months and....I got whispered! Really awesome.

[Morkai]

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Heroes of Elonia [HE]

W/Rt

07 Feb 2008 at 17:31 - 96

Just had a great idea for this.

On trial accounts (or even prefferably on REAL accounts..)

An option in friends list, "Receive messages from all" "Receive Messages from no-one" "Receive Messages from friends only" (I.e people in YOUR friends list...not you in theirs..)

Seems to solve it to me.

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

07 Feb 2008 at 20:47 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berek

Just had a great idea for this.

On trial accounts (or even prefferably on REAL accounts..)

An option in friends list, "Receive messages from all" "Receive Messages from no-one" "Receive Messages from friends only" (I.e people in YOUR friends list...not you in theirs..)

Seems to solve it to me.

Yeah that would be the best fix ever, just think about the setting when you go trading in towns.

Seriously now since a day or 2 ive been called by atleast 5 other ugamegold spammers with every char i pick. Anet please go stand in LA, kamadan, shing jea and kaineng for a few hours and ban all the people whispering you with welcome to ugamegold, yes those guys are often not in town or not in your district but find a way to ban them by their name, which leads to an account.

Somehow these lunatics know your in a trading town, because in other more deserted towns i dont get any whisper, and if i do its not as much as in a trade town, they know youre there yet you cant add them to your partylist and you cannot target them in anyway, its annoying and no matter how many i add/delete on my ignore list they just keep callin me. Also i noticed their calls are became more frequent as soon as i added one of their junkies onto my ignore list.

GreatBabai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/

07 Feb 2008 at 21:32 - 98

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berek

Just had a great idea for this.

On trial accounts (or even prefferably on REAL accounts..)

An option in friends list, "Receive messages from all" "Receive Messages from no-one" "Receive Messages from friends only" (I.e people in YOUR friends list...not you in theirs..)

Seems to solve it to me.

or even easier solution - checkmark - don't receive whispers from _trial_ accounts.

eljer

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

There Is A New Build Avail [able]

08 Feb 2008 at 05:21 - 99

A couple suggestions..

/reportgoldseller IGN
The character wouldn't have to be in the same district as you to work, and since this is a recent priority for anet it might make it easier for them to track

Also keep a list of which trial access keys are distributed with real access keys, and if a real access key gets banned for botting, the linked trial keys no longer function. It may help to cut down on the spammers, though it could just make the botters try harder to steal accounts

These whispers havent been a huge issue for me, i might get 5 or less during the average gaming session (maybe due to my main IGN they think I'm a bot too?), but that is 5 or less too many.

On a side note, I was in LA AD1 yesterday to buy a couple tomes. I found the person selling them, targetting them, and was running to them when i got a ugamegold pm from someone else. I typed "/report spammers name", selected spamming, and submitted it. I was then told that I had successfully reported (the tome seller) for spamming. I know you can /report someone while they're your target, but I assumed that specifying a name after /report that you'd override the target option. I submitted a report about it and was told that they investigate /reports very carefully

BodhiNightwind

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

United States

Stonewall Of Unity League [SOUL]

Mo/Rt

08 Feb 2008 at 05:27 - 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPGmaniac

That's not a bug, it's been that way since 05 at least. It only shows chat in the chat bubbles, not in the chat log. It shouldn't be too hard to turn the camera so you can't see the chat bubble of the person being rude to you.

Clearly you've never been to Shing Jea.

It's always full of perverts with no life trying to get their jollies off of pixels controlled by 12 year olds.

Even if you turn off local, there's still a bunch of chat bubbles you have tosee, no matter how you turn your camera *insert eyeroll here*

Anyway, I agree with the OP, 10 is not and has never been a long enough ignore list.

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

08 Feb 2008 at 06:37 - 101

I find it funny that some bots just stand still, out in the open, everyone crowds around it, and nothing happens to it despite being given reports from nearly everyone in the district it's in.

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

08 Feb 2008 at 07:26 - 102

Just clear you ignore list of all the gfhldgh pduzfhsph names daily. Those are trial accounts (10 hours online and then gone). That should ease up a bit on the 10 names ignore list, you could also delete any other players on your ignore list unless they are stalking you, because once they know you are on ignore, then they will forget you 99% of the time after a few days.

One fix for the trial whispers would be to limit the amount of whispers from trial accounts to maybe 10 a minute(one message avery 6 seconds sounds reasonable). This way legit players can test GW normally, but bots wont be able to PM hundreds of players in a district.

You could also implement an autoban on trial accounts which try to break this ammount drastically (ie the server registers and blocks more than 100 whispers a minute which is impossible for human players to manage).

NathanMurray

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Sydney, Australia

No Guild Yet Starting Fresh

N/

08 Feb 2008 at 09:48 - 103

Sutff happens I live with it. Frankly it doesn't make my Computer explode so I'm happy.

Uber Mass

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

retired from gw [agro] still ftw

W/

08 Feb 2008 at 10:16 - 104

just delete the whole whisper option on trial accounts... Trial should be used for people who want to see how the game works anyways...

erk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Australia

18 Feb 2008 at 10:10 - 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

I find it funny that some bots just stand still, out in the open, everyone crowds around it, and nothing happens to it despite being given reports from nearly everyone in the district it's in.

the Itemcoo bots are still going undisturbed in RA id1. It's weeks since this thread started.

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

18 Feb 2008 at 13:02 - 106

The Balth Island spam bot has used up all of my ignore slots, this is getting very frustrating.

The only time I go there is to use the Master of Damage to test out some build ideas and I get instant spam on maping in. I report the bot EVERY time and yet they seam to have an infinite number of accounts to keep puting a new bot there every day.

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

18 Feb 2008 at 16:05 - 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by erk

Can't you use the party search window for that or does it need whisper enabled?

I don't know; I assume search party can be used by trials but I can't confirm/deny for myself. Unless they're familiar with MMOs, though, I don't think it's fair to expect new players to know to bring up the party search window and start advertising.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

18 Feb 2008 at 19:51 - 108

Quote:

Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

I find it funny that some bots just stand still, out in the open, everyone crowds around it, and nothing happens to it despite being given reports from nearly everyone in the district it's in.

Hm... they could count the number of reports and ignores and mute the guy for 24 hours if they are too much (100 ignores or 10 reports) as a preventive meassure.

Jecht Scye

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Lucky Crickets[Luck]

N/Me

18 Feb 2008 at 20:56 - 109

I'm pretty sure no one is going to say it's not a problem, because it is. The hard part is finding a solution. Since these spammers are not in the same district as you, they cannot be reported in-game.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

18 Feb 2008 at 21:07 - 110

Make them fill in one of those images with the letters and numbers whenever they attempt to send a whisper. And 3 failed attempts during the duration of the trial = trial ended.

It will either stop them dead in their tracks or force them to find more child labourers to enter the codes constantly.

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

18 Feb 2008 at 21:36 - 111

Only happens to me when I'm in the major cities.

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

N/Me

18 Feb 2008 at 21:40 - 112

I only got it occasionally in Kamadan, so now I just very quickly pass through, or hang out there at around 8pm GMT (they seem to be very quiet at that time). Using the Asura gate system allows me to miss out Lion's Arch, another bot-spot, and thankfully there seem to be none in Kaineng (I very rarely visit Shing Jea these days, having vanquished Sunqua Vale and not having the motivation to try it again).

The whisper blocking system doesn't fail exactly, it's the combination of trial accounts and the balance of what trial players should be able to do vs. what bots shouldn't. It's a tricky thing.

flclisgreat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

been using this avatar IRL for ever

No I Wont join your guild[stfu]

D/

18 Feb 2008 at 21:49 - 113

well the news is, i got a second account, and the same bot starts wisping me on that account to. running gwx2, one of my accounts gets a whisper, then a few minutes later the other one does(unless i preemptive block it)

account has never been in GToB

Shakti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Home...

Vier Reiter [Vier]

18 Feb 2008 at 21:52 - 114

Trial accts just shouldn't be able to whisper unless they get whispered first. Or, f this won't work prog wise for some reason, trials can't whisper at all. I don't see what the prob would be, they could still chat/team chat etc just not PM. A real user of a trial would understand the restriction and know they'd get the PM feature if/when they buy. The only ones who'd have a prob not being able to spam pms hither and yon would be those who want to abuse it and...screw 'em lol.

Steps_Descending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

IN my pocket plane. Obviously!

Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]

Me/Mo

19 Feb 2008 at 02:20 - 115

Just a question : anyone have an idea about how they decide to target someone. I mean why do they seem to choose 1 account over another. I have a couple of friends who seem to be in their lock.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

19 Feb 2008 at 02:43 - 116

I don't think its fair to flame anet for what the botters are doing. The trial is a good tool to make sales, so you can't simply remove it. I believe that the support team is doing as much as it can with its budget to suppress botting as much as possible. I'm just pleased to see that this issue is not being ignored..

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

19 Feb 2008 at 02:45 - 117

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

The Balth Island spam bot has used up all of my ignore slots, this is getting very frustrating.

The only time I go there is to use the Master of Damage to test out some build ideas and I get instant spam on maping in. I report the bot EVERY time and yet they seam to have an infinite number of accounts to keep puting a new bot there every day.

There is no point in blocking the bots, they are always changing accounts. I don't block them and still get pm'ed... I made a list that confirms that they constantly changed accounts.

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

19 Feb 2008 at 02:55 - 118

Just put on DnD if you're going to anywhere in the battle isles, honestly it's not that annoying.

Pat Of Storm Caller

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2008

TM

W/

24 Mar 2008 at 15:51 - 119

I agree that we should be able to make it that only friends/alliance members can PM you. Another good idea I think is to make trial accounts unable to PM people who haven't PMed them first or have them on there friends list. Thus, reducing if not totally stopping gold selling PM's.

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

24 Mar 2008 at 15:57 - 120

Would be nice if you could ignore accounts rather than just characters, isn't hard to switch characters.