How well does Awe + Coward Work?

Mr Pvper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

MGK

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I was wondering how well these two mix

[card]Awe[/card] [card]"Coward!"[/card]

I've been trying this combo and it provides constant dazing on a caster target if and only if the person is running (which means u need damage to support Coward).

How well does this combo truely work anwyays

would like some feedback

mrmango

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

That's too conditional in my opinion.

Scary Raebbit

Scary Raebbit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Can just run Spear Swipe.
At least you don't have to require Coward/KD.
The person will probably be kiting if there is no Draw/RC, so more openings for KD.
Bad thing is that Swipe has a longer recharge. So daze can't be kept on permanently. But I don't think a monk is going to stay alive if they have Daze on them and are being beat on by melee.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Spear Swipe is too noticeable... I mean, as a Monk, what are you going to do when a Paragon with a Spear comes running at your face? WTB Guardian + Return.

Songbringer

Songbringer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

EastCoast

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marverick
Spear Swipe is too noticeable... I mean, as a Monk, what are you going to do when a Paragon with a Spear comes running at your face? WTB Guardian + Return.
Play smart bring an axe/sword set and and at last set switch to spear

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Songbringer
Play smart bring an axe/sword set and and at last set switch to spear I don't see how that would really accomplish anything at all. Even if they are thrown off because the paragon for some reason doesn't have a spear equipped, that will trick them maybe once.

Captain Miken

Captain Miken

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
I don't see how that would really accomplish anything at all. Even if they are thrown off because the paragon for some reason doesn't have a spear equipped, that will trick them maybe once.
In PvP, yeah...
But keep in mind, this is The Campfire, for PvE dicussion.


In PvE, enemy casters don't really move, they just die. Like, really fast. The only people you would get Coward to trigger on would be the melee, and why would you want to daze them?

Even if you somehow managed to catch an enemy caster moving, this seems like a pretty stupid way to apply Dazed, you'd be better off with Stunning Strike.... or Broad Headed Arrow.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Miken
In PvP, yeah...
But keep in mind, this is The Campfire, for PvE dicussion. With that in mind, Coward! is a pretty terrible PvE elite to use though.

ChuckNoble

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

how do you get the skills to show up in a thread? like the first poster?

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuckNoble
how do you get the skills to show up in a thread? like the first poster? It's a GWG forum feature brought to you by the good folks at the [SoF] guild. Here's a thread explaining them:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10225402

edit: The skill descriptions have not been updated since Nightfall, so you still must click the links for the correct description.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

In PvE, coward is a horrible elite.
In PvP, this could be alright in RA/AB, like pretty much anything.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

PVE – You move like a dwarf [skill]awe[/skill]

PVP - [skill]signet of judgment[/skill] [skill]awe[/skill]

runeseeker1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Dark Guild of War [dgw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Painbringer
PVE – You move like a dwarf [skill]awe[/skill]

PVP if you use a melee weapon (RA minded response)

[skill]balanced stance[/skill] [skill]drunken blow[/skill] [skill]awe[/skill] Eh? How would you kd them with Drunken Blow?

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by runeseeker1
Eh? How would you kd them with Drunken Blow? I am not sure what I was thinking….. For some reason I was thinking both got knocked down. I will pull it off oops

Scourgey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pvper
How well does this combo truely work anwyays

would like some feedback I tried it in the past, it doesn't work as well as stunning strike, you need to think about the fact that most caster enemies run away from you if they are being hit rather than towards you, so when you use coward! you still need to spend some time running towards the KD foe, as KD is only 2 seconds long, the chances are you won't get there in 1.25 seconds to cast awe on them.

In other words you need to be relatively close, and then you have to wait for them to move before you can KD. Also, you need to remember you could be in the middle of an attack skill animation when they move, which would mean you don't cast awe immediately after a KD (unless you press escape then hit the awe key quickly).

Anyway, yes it does work, but it involves a lot more skill than hitting both buttons to get it to work successfully a large percentage of the time. It certainly has advantages over daze attacks, as it works if you are blinded & ignores blocking. (but you won't get the main advantage of daze if you can't hit the target anyway).

[edit - This is all PvP related]

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheChad1215
Except you also have spears.

Anyway, if you're willing to use up an Elite slot for a dazed combo, why not just use Skull Crack?? Now, you have 7 slots left. Skull Crack is a melee attack, won't work with spears.