Maybe this is just me, but I like the Raven Blessing more than the Bear one.
Rather than seeing the Bear Blessing getting nerfed as countless people have expressed, do you think something will be done to the Raven or Volfen Blessings?
The Other Blessings
StormDragonZ
Pleikki
I dont see why ppl would change it they play it until it nerf's well yeah i dont use any blessings...
Bryant Again
I'd either would want Ursan balanced or every single other skill in Guild Wars buffed.
Two April Mornings
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I'd either would want Ursan balanced or every single other skill in Guild Wars buffed.
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Personally I love raven blessing. Not getting KD'ed is key.
JeniM
Pvp and PvE skill being linked is the problem, thats why PvE skills are supposed to be powerful to compensate PvE'ers for all the nerfs.
Avarre
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Pvp and PvE skill being linked is the problem, thats why PvE skills are supposed to be powerful to compensate PvE'ers for all the nerfs.
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Lagg
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
I'd either would want Ursan balanced or every single other skill in Guild Wars buffed.
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This way, there would be no PvP imbalance.
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I would too. But PVP would die.
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zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by JeniM
Pvp and PvE skill being linked is the problem, thats why PvE skills are supposed to be powerful to compensate PvE'ers for all the nerfs.
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PvP-related nerfs were boon for PvE as they prevented all kinds of power creep for two years (until PvE only stuff became widespread.).
(Yes, my "feature list" for perfect MMO includes strong PvP ballancing which does affect PvE mercilessly. Not that i would ever play PvP, but i like effects it has on PvE.)
Malice Black
Nerfs are good, keeps people on their toes. Nobody would be playing anymore if IWAY was still the META would they?
Same thing goes for PvE. Running the same style build for 3 years would have been a snorefest.
Ursan is a pretty shitty way to play, but if people want to play GW in such a dumb way let them.
Same thing goes for PvE. Running the same style build for 3 years would have been a snorefest.
Ursan is a pretty shitty way to play, but if people want to play GW in such a dumb way let them.
Wildi
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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
..do you think something will be done to the Raven or Volfen Blessings?
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raven talons is not doing damage -> you get 0 energy back
raven shriek -> you get 0 energy
raven flight -> you get 0 energy
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
I would too. But PVP would die.
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Numa Pompilius
The PvP balancing was what kept PvE somewhat interesting. The people complaining about "pve skills being nerfed due to pvp" were the professional farmers, whose idea of ideal PvE would be a "kill everything in the zone, collect loot, and map to merchant" button.
All the norn forms, in fact most of the PvE skills, are cheesy, but Ursan is the worst because it has no drawback at all, and simply gets more powerful the more ursans there are in the team.
Just today I started out on the Here And Now quest in hardmode, H&H'ing it with Raven blessing... and after the first mobs I mapped back and swapped Raven out for Eviscerate. I just couldn't stand the cheese of it. Plus it's boring to play.
All the norn forms, in fact most of the PvE skills, are cheesy, but Ursan is the worst because it has no drawback at all, and simply gets more powerful the more ursans there are in the team.
Just today I started out on the Here And Now quest in hardmode, H&H'ing it with Raven blessing... and after the first mobs I mapped back and swapped Raven out for Eviscerate. I just couldn't stand the cheese of it. Plus it's boring to play.
Snow Bunny
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Maybe this is just me, but I like the Raven Blessing more than the Bear one.
Rather than seeing the Bear Blessing getting nerfed as countless people have expressed, do you think something will be done to the Raven or Volfen Blessings? |
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by Wildi
No. But the main problem with raven blessing is: Only Raven Swoop will give you energy.
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Oh, and Raven and Volfen do not suck. They just don't have the AoE knockdown of Ursan, which is what makes Ursan so uber (because if there's more than 3 ursans in the team, the enemy spends the fight perma-knockdowned and incapable of doing any real damage). If you're h/h'ing raven is often better than ursan due to AoE blind.
steel singer
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
I'd either would want Ursan balanced or every single other skill in Guild Wars buffed.
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Aera Lure
I cant see buffing the other two to the level of Ursan, that just compounds the problem. Ursan should have been nerfed and the other two buffed some. I use past tense because its quite obvious that now after all this time Anet has no intention of nerfing Ursan. Defies logic and flies in the face of all the other balancing they had tried to do in the past, but so be it.
makosi
Ursan lets people be a tank and a nuker in one, thus filling 2/3 of the holy trinity. Neither of the other 2 blessings are as spikey as Ursan. If Ursan Strike was affected by Armour then each blessing would be more closesly balanced.
Also, that area knock-down is extremely effective on so many levels, as is the area weakness spam.
Raven's blocking is nice but Aegis chaining and other blocking techniques on your backline do that job pretty well. I reckon that you are as well to devote all of your energies in to killing stuff or keeping stuff alive in PvE.
Also, that area knock-down is extremely effective on so many levels, as is the area weakness spam.
Raven's blocking is nice but Aegis chaining and other blocking techniques on your backline do that job pretty well. I reckon that you are as well to devote all of your energies in to killing stuff or keeping stuff alive in PvE.
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by steel singer
Why would you want that? PvE is already freaking easy without ANY pve only skills like ursan or anything else..
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isamu kurosawa
I have used the raven blessing twice while vanquishing just so i could take my warriors pet raven with me and lvl it to 20. Was a nice change of pace running something with a theme but got boring fast, i find it more fun to use a proper skillbar...although raven blessings skill sounds are awesome 
Personally i think the blessings should have been implemented with a full 8 skillbar that is less uber damage and more relying on effects like the bmp skillbars but without the single player overpoweredness. Have the raven rely on evasion to trigger skills, volven to deal more with effects working on foes under deep wound and ursan...well, guess KDs could be added after dropping the rediculous damage.
And as a final thing make the primary damage skills martial atks that only work if your holding no weapon (i.e. barefist attacks
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Personally i think the blessings should have been implemented with a full 8 skillbar that is less uber damage and more relying on effects like the bmp skillbars but without the single player overpoweredness. Have the raven rely on evasion to trigger skills, volven to deal more with effects working on foes under deep wound and ursan...well, guess KDs could be added after dropping the rediculous damage.
And as a final thing make the primary damage skills martial atks that only work if your holding no weapon (i.e. barefist attacks
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Shadowlance.
I don't think changes will be made to the other blessings (or to Ursan). They've gone on this long I'm betting they'll continue. Most time/effort will be spent on GW2.
Even though Ursan is effective, I don't play it anymore since it simply wasn't fun. I found it to be similar to playing a touch ranger; just keep mashing the same buttons over and over. There's not a lot of play variety or skill required.
Even though Ursan is effective, I don't play it anymore since it simply wasn't fun. I found it to be similar to playing a touch ranger; just keep mashing the same buttons over and over. There's not a lot of play variety or skill required.
MithranArkanere
As always, the only change I ask for the blessings is the same I ask for ANY effect that replaces all skills in the skill bar (Rollebeetle races, Junundu, Siege devourer, BMP disguises, Dwarven Brawling, etc):
Make it ignore the profession of the character: attributes and armor.
So only the equipped weapons and off-hands items make any differences.
Make it ignore the profession of the character: attributes and armor.
So only the equipped weapons and off-hands items make any differences.
Longasc
Actually all three are based on the same flawed avatar principle that should never have made it ingame.
They are all powerful, Volfen probably being the weakest or most balanced of the bunch, depending on how you see it.
I would play Ursan or neither of them. I actually like to be my warrior if I am playing him...
They are all powerful, Volfen probably being the weakest or most balanced of the bunch, depending on how you see it.
I would play Ursan or neither of them. I actually like to be my warrior if I am playing him...
chowmein69
i used ravens blessing , no knockdown ftw