How can I get the BMP without a credit card?

Dryndalyn

Dryndalyn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

How can I get the BMP without a credit card?

I can’t even get a friend to get it for me because my friend will not (and rightly so!) give out her credit card number to anyone and I will not give out my password for my GW account to her so that she can log in and sign up for me. She lives in a different country so she can’t come over to help me with this. I also have a lot of accounts and would like to get more than one BMP (one for each account that is).

I hope the BMP is around for something like 8 months or so because that is how long it may take me to borrow a card number to get the BMP.

By the way, I am a Canadian living abroad. If I was back in Canada, I could get a credit card without issue, but I have been away too long and can’t get one there, nor as a foreigner where I am. Having no credit card is not an issue at all except for when it comes to GW.

The primary reason I began to play this game instead of other online games is that I don’t have a credit card so I cannot pay to play (but I love this game just the same and am glad I play this one rather than others). However, this 'online store only' thing is really annoying. Will there ever be a way to get the BMP otherwise?

Shakti

Shakti

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Join Date: Sep 2006

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Can you get a pre paid debit/cc anywhere there? I know here (US) they are available everywhere, and friends abroad in many countries get them where they are as well. Anet did say initially it would be in stores as well but I haven't seen anything as yet.

XiaoTheBlade

XiaoTheBlade

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Join Date: Apr 2007

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Text (SMS) payment is coming soon, although a mate said it's only for people in UK and Germany.

MithranArkanere

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Most countries have at least one company with pre-Paid credit cards.

In Spain it is "La Caixa", and they call it "Cibertarjeta".

Dryndalyn

Dryndalyn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakti
Can you get a pre paid debit/cc anywhere there? I know here (US) they are available everywhere, and friends abroad in many countries get them where they are as well. Anet did say initially it would be in stores as well but I haven't seen anything as yet.
No, I have tried. I even had my boss vouch for me but they will not issue any sort of credit card to a foreigner no matter what (this is Taiwan, by the way).

Several other friends here have tried as well and had similar results. For example, I just began to DM a game of D&D here and another married couple just joined the group and they also don’t have a credit card.

They are having difficulty continuing with WoW because they have not returned to Canada to pick up the prepaid WoW game cards. So, I told them about Guild Wars not needing a credit card to play, so now they have ordered the GWs game and the wife is calling the store every day to see if it is in yet. She can’t wait to play with me and my friends who are in Japan.

Actually, there are a lot of Canadians here without credit cards. It is a cash culture so there is no need for one at all unless you are an online gamer it seems.

MithranArkanere

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That's extrange.

There are pre-paid card that can be given as presents. (They have fancy designs)

La Caixa had those too, they cost 3€, though, unlike the Cibertarjetas, that are completely free.

Sure you acnnot get a friend there getting one for you?

cosyfiep

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OP I feel your pain (I did a 2 year teaching stint in japan and had the same problems).....is there anyway some one at home could get you a pre-paid card and MAIL it to you (nicely hidden in say a care package)....that way your friend wouldnt need to give out her cc info and you would get a pre-paid card (that may or maynot work.....would need to figure out which ones ARE working on the online store first).

its my best suggestion

pkodyssey

pkodyssey

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No BMP for you... If tyou don't have a CC of some type you are SOL!

Menjo Moon

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

You can use a bank transfer I suppose, that's how I got it (at DLgamer), but since you're not in an European country, it will probably cost you extra and it might take days for the amount to be transferred...

warcrap

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Join Date: Sep 2007

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i have the same problem not being required to use a cc was one of the reasons i got into gw.
i hope i will be able to get the bmp some how!!!

Dryndalyn

Dryndalyn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep
OP I feel your pain (I did a 2 year teaching stint in japan and had the same problems).....is there anyway some one at home could get you a pre-paid card and MAIL it to you (nicely hidden in say a care package)....that way your friend wouldnt need to give out her cc info and you would get a pre-paid card (that may or maynot work.....would need to figure out which ones ARE working on the online store first).

its my best suggestion
Hmm. I never thought of that. Thanks.

My closest friend lives out on a farm two miles away from the nearest city. But he would be most willing because I introduced him to GW by buying it for him for Xmas. He is a casual player as he is really busy, but maybe he can get into town at some point.

I also could ask my folks, but they are touring around India at the moment so it would have to wait until they got back.

Either way, I have to wait. I hope the BMP the offer doesn't run out anytime soon.

Dryndalyn

Dryndalyn

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Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Menjo Moon
You can use a bank transfer I suppose, that's how I got it (at DLgamer), but since you're not in an European country, it will probably cost you extra and it might take days for the amount to be transferred...
The online store will take bank transfers?

Dryndalyn

Dryndalyn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by pkodyssey
No BMP for you...
Ha, ha, ha! That's how I talk to my cat when he is too fat .

"No food for you...No food for you..."

He doesn't like it much either.

tankity tank

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

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Either one of you can use the paypal plugin for firefox/ie to generate a one-time-use virtual credit card and then pay with that - that's what I do if my bank is lame and doesn't get a new card to me when the old one expires.

Dryndalyn

Dryndalyn

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Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by tankity tank
Either one of you can use the paypal plugin for firefox/ie to generate a one-time-use virtual credit card and then pay with that - that's what I do if my bank is lame and doesn't get a new card to me when the old one expires.
Don't you need a credit card to get Paypal?

Maximumraver

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Join Date: Sep 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dryndalyn
Don't you need a credit card to get Paypal?
Nope, my friend has paypal, and no credit-card.

Fates

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Save your money.

Dryndalyn

Dryndalyn

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Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximumraver
Nope, my friend has paypal, and no credit-card.
Ok, I will look into that too. Thanks

Maximumraver

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no problem

tankity tank

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

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Paypal needs at least one funding source, it can be a credit card, bank account, etc.

I think they require a "backup funding source" for some things but I've always just given them the debit card that's tied to the same bank account they already have :-p

DeXyre

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

I seem only to be able to enter creditcard number in paypal though...

Menjo Moon

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dryndalyn
The online store will take bank transfers?
No, but a french site will.

http://www.dlgamer.fr/

It's in English, so you can read it (as opposed to the German site)

CyberMesh0

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My paypal account is tied to my debit card. I'm not sure if you can tie it directly to a checking account.

KennyC

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Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Menjo Moon
No, but a french site will.

http://www.dlgamer.fr/

It's in English, so you can read it (as opposed to the German site)
ty for pointing that site out

good job!

Menjo Moon

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

You could also ask a friend to buy the code at DLgamer for you, and he could send you your keycode. That might work faster than a bank transfer

sagilltwins

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wait for BMP to turn up in local retailers....

Amon Warrior

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Join Date: Sep 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dryndalyn
No, I have tried. I even had my boss vouch for me but they will not issue any sort of credit card to a foreigner no matter what (this is Taiwan, by the way).
That's really not good! I'm Portuguese and happen to be working in mainland China. I was able to get a Chinese credit card here. Well, first I needed a little bit of 'Guanxi' (a friend of mine had a friend working at that bank) and deposit 'bout 1.000 euros as collateral, so if I didn't pay them back they'd just seize that money (maximum I can spend per turn is that exact amount). It would be even easier if you would buy a house here (they'd seize the house )... Maybe too many foreigner scams in Taiwan?

Anyway, the credit card has been like an anchor to the rest of the digital world. It got me to play GW and socialize with people in good ol' Europe - kudos for GW open zones system. And send mom monthly groceries via online supermarket back home!

Unfortunately for gamers in such distinct places like us, I don't think they'll be able to provide better solutions than a credit card... How about 'guanxi' over there? Maybe another - more lenient bank?

pumpkin pie

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ask a real life friend, show them the money that you are going to pay them back, take them to your computer where the game is, make them pay for with their credit card, after it is activated, I think it is instant, you give them the cash. then take them for a drink !

seut

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

Quote:
Originally Posted by Menjo Moon
No, but a french site will.

http://www.dlgamer.fr/

It's in English, so you can read it (as opposed to the German site)
You mean 4u2play.de?
You could write them a mail in english (Kontakt = contact, Ihre Email = your email, Betreff = Topic, Ihre Nachricht = your message, absenden = send). Most likely they'll understand it.
Though international money transfer from Taiwan to Europe probably isn't worth it..

Are there no non-NCSoft online stores outside Europe, which sell the keys?

Quote:
Originally Posted by sagilltwins
wait for BMP to turn up in local retailers....
NCSoft's german CR Martin Kerstein said that the BMP will be sold digitally only. Keycards for physical stores aren't planned as it seems.

Gin Cometh

Gin Cometh

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Join Date: Jun 2007

UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by seut
You mean 4u2play.de?

Are there no non-NCSoft online stores outside Europe, which sell the keys?


NCSoft's german CR Martin Kerstein said that the BMP will be sold digitally only. Keycards for physical stores aren't planned as it seems.
Yep ,found that out today after seaching 7 stores in a 10 mile radius , i rly wanted to buy it today as its my birthday .I was lead to believe it would sell RETAIL but no once again ANET changing the rules.

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dryndalyn
How can I get the BMP without a credit card?

I can’t even get a friend to get it for me because my friend will not (and rightly so!) give out her credit card number to anyone and I will not give out my password for my GW account to her so that she can log in and sign up for me. She lives in a different country so she can’t come over to help me with this. I also have a lot of accounts and would like to get more than one BMP (one for each account that is).

I hope the BMP is around for something like 8 months or so because that is how long it may take me to borrow a card number to get the BMP.

By the way, I am a Canadian living abroad. If I was back in Canada, I could get a credit card without issue, but I have been away too long and can’t get one there, nor as a foreigner where I am. Having no credit card is not an issue at all except for when it comes to GW.

The primary reason I began to play this game instead of other online games is that I don’t have a credit card so I cannot pay to play (but I love this game just the same and am glad I play this one rather than others). However, this 'online store only' thing is really annoying. Will there ever be a way to get the BMP otherwise?

lets see you have any friends or family that has one and is close to you, you must know someone. 1 of the people you hang out with must have one? and if they do give them the money for it and use it im sure they will not mind friends normaly do not mind thats why we call them friends. I think everyone has 1 person they know well enought to use his/her CC for a 1 time use.

lakatz

lakatz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberMesh0
My paypal account is tied to my debit card. I'm not sure if you can tie it directly to a checking account.
I did it as a seller. I needed payments deposited into my checking account. Not sure about doing it as a buyer though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gin Cometh
Yep ,found that out today after seaching 7 stores in a 10 mile radius , i rly wanted to buy it today as its my birthday .I was lead to believe it would sell RETAIL but no once again ANET changing the rules.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

strcpy

strcpy

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gin Cometh
Yep ,found that out today after seaching 7 stores in a 10 mile radius , i rly wanted to buy it today as its my birthday .I was lead to believe it would sell RETAIL but no once again ANET changing the rules.
Well, if you want them to stay by what was originally implied you wouldn't even be getting this chance at all, so I can't see how you are complaining. They simply stated retail partners, not *local* or *physical* retail availability. Putting it in caps or quoting their statements didn't work when they were even more clear before, no reason why it should suddenly now that *you* are the one that isn't liking it. As we have learned, no ones fault but your own when you do something like this and you should have thought about it a bit more.

May if people whine enough they will put them out in stores too - who knows?

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by seut
NCSoft's german CR Martin Kerstein said that the BMP will be sold digitally only. Keycards for physical stores aren't planned as it seems.
I wouldn't be to quick to believe that, for a few reasons the main one being that it's not Anet. Yet if you read the upcoming changes
Quote:
Bonus Mission Pack released in retail stores.

seut

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnchu
I wouldn't be to quick to believe that, for a few reasons the main one being that it's not Anet. Yet if you read the upcoming changes
Well Martin Kerstein is working for NCSoft.eu and is kind of the "Gaile Gray" for the German community. I think he has the position that was filled by Alex Weekes previously.

from http://guildwars-forum.onlinewelten....&postcount=127

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein
Ich gebe dann nochmal den neusten Stand:

Es wird das BMP ausschliesslich digital geben, und es wird nur im Onlinestore, im PlayNC Store und bei 4u2play erhältlich sein.

Und ihr könnt mir glauben wenn ich sage, dass 4u2play vertrauenswürdig ist, dabei handelt es sich nicht um irgendeine kleine "Internetklitsche"

Ich weiss, dass dies nicht die Antwort ist, auf die viele gewartet haben, aber eine andere habe ich leider nicht.
roughly tranlated:
Quote:
I give you the state of affairs:

The BMP will be avaivalble digital only and it'll be sold by the ingame shop, PlayNC and 4u2play.de.

And you can believe me that 4u2play is trustworthy and not just an obscure faceless online shop (he used the word "Klitsche" = "little rat-shop" ).

I know this isn't the answer you were looking for, but there is no other.
Of course he's talking about Germany only, but the rules for other European countries won't be much different. At least for Europe (and thus most likely including Australia & New Zealand) there will be no physical sale of the BMP.

North American & Asian distribution is handled by other parts of NCSoft, but i doubt they'll handle it much different.

Dryndalyn

Dryndalyn

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Join Date: May 2007

Thanks to all of you trying to help. I will look into all of your suggestions.

As for the real life friends - most of them don't have credit cards either. It's a cash culture here. You don't even buy things with a debit card here. The other half that do have a card don't ever want to post their number on the internet for fear of it being stolen somehow.

kratimas

kratimas

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fates Monk
Save your money.
What the Fu-Hell does that have to do with anything.

Reading Comprehension -- FTW

Anyway,
@OP I have read all the suggestions and can't think of anything else to try, just wanted to wish you luck and hope you find a way to get it.

Krat

bradktulu

bradktulu

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Join Date: Oct 2007

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curious anyone in canada find a method of getting this without a cc, tried the one off credit card number for paypal, but it's only usable for US verified paypal customers sadly.

baz777

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UK residents look here – Pre-Paid Credit Cards (some cater for under 16’s)

http://www.which-prepaid-card.co.uk/...s-prepaid.html

Lugosi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Even if you managed to have somebody send you a cc from your country, there's no guarantee that you can use it in the GW online-store. Reason?
I have a pay-pal cc issued in the states, and when I was trying to use it in the GW online store while I was in germany, I would just get an error-message saying something about "possible fraud" (and yes, there was money on it).
According to the GW/NC support their store will only accept cc transfers from the country where the used card was issued, to prevent fraud.
Sort of defeats one of the purposes of creditcards imho (being able to pay anywhere).