Special event idea - Welcome to yesterday

broncomania

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

While i was getting rid of my old tyrian stuffs (those used to worth alot!!), I suddenly (yes, just last night after all these years) realized that how much gw has changed since the beginning...

The moment I saw a "GOLD" item dropped for you in a mish.
how happy i was when i found a Superior Rune of Vigor out of chest gold
How expensive it was to make a 55 monk (all those expensive superior runes!)
UW and ecto drops!!
FoW and chest runs
farming hydras and totem axes...
Hours of spamming "LF healer - i'll pay X k" in towns

I think many who joined GW late won't ever find out these glorious experiences and frustrations!!

So, I want to suggest Anet to have a special event to revert the game back to the initial release for few days (or is this a pure stupid idea?). I know this would be very tough (i know some lvl of programming & DB). But nothing is impossible, right =)

Please share your thoughts on this or just share your glorious (or horrible) experinces to young GW community.

Cheers!

-- Mania

lietzaum

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

VILE

N/

i know that guildwars changed even a great deal even before i started to play but to do that would change the economy of the game even if it was for a short time of 24 hours
i would say no to the idea for the reason there are more frustrations then nice experiances

Minime The Shadow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

England (south)

Order Of Universal Spirit

R/

That poses the problem in a few cases, but if u changed the economy, what happens to things like the derv, para, rit and assasin?

Would a superior derv rune just be as expensive as when nf came out? or compare it to other sup runes?

also some skills might have to be removed to balance out the old skill descriptions, otheriwse you would have some extreme advantages over old skills.

might be fun, but i dont fancy paying another 85k for a superior absortion rune lol.

See what a-net thinks :P

hadin gar kain

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

America

W/

i would salvage all the runes off my chars and sell them to rune trader, wait till weekend was over and re-buy them all at the modern cost.

Johny bravo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

[SoS]

N/

Not sure how you could force the economy to change. Even by limiting or increasing the drops for a short period of time would only have a minor effect. To really effect the economy it would have to be a long term change. Increasing trader values would shift the cost of buying materials and runes but most peopel would just wait it out if it was a short term thing.

As for the skills reverting back to the origional skill descriptions, I would would be interested in seeing that for a weekend maybe or a week at most. I think it would be fun to PB UW with my 55 monk. I wonder what builds would dominate HA if that happened.

Interesting concept in regards to skills, no so much in regards to the economy.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

The devs can't just throw in a couple lines of code and put the economy back to where it was and make gold weapons worth something; and to make Superior Vigors and Superior Absorptions worth 70k+ again would just ruin everything.

Basically, you're right when you say things were better back 2+ years ago, but there's really no way to revert it, even for a weekend.

/that's unpossible

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Not practical, for reason already mentioned, but nice to think about how things were back then. If you met someone in Fire Islands they were most likely a decent player. All the n00bs who weren't lucky enough to have a guild help them were still trying to do Dunderhead Keep.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Uh, I don't think they'd have a copy of the state of the game from 2 years ago for rollback.

dasullybear

dasullybear

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

You're basement, eating a ham sandwhich

Mo/

It would be wonderful...
but sadly not possible...

you'd see alot of:
"WTB STACKS OF SUP ABSORB RUNES"
a few hours before the event... xD

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by dasullybear
It would be wonderful...
but sadly not possible...
QFT.
I wish i played when GW was released...

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Good old times... sadly that kind of event would be, I'd say completely impossible on the live servers.

But if they had old game version somewhere and could run a separate server, Prophecies only, I would certainly play that!

Everyone start from point zero again. A separate world free of the crap that's happening now.

Oldschool GvG's the way of first World Champs!

But still the hardest part would be determining what game improvements, balance changes and nerfs should apply.
Some skills of the past were incredibly broken, having this turn into a degenerate 55hp Protective Bond solo UW farmfest wouldn't be cool. Or spirit spam and Iway at full power in PvP.

Probably the best and easiest way to do it would be just using current game build, just run a fresh new completely separate server with only Prophecies content enabled. There were huge loads of positive updates that happened to the game since earliest times but some are debatable:

*Include Sorrows Furnace or not? - some would agree that the game wouldn't be 'oldschool' with all the greens there. But more content is better and SF was fun to play.
*Tombs of Primeval Kings oldschool entrance to HoH or PvE dungeon? (B/P farm farm farm and every warrior has Victos Bulwark+Axe) debatable.
*Include the HoH global tournament at all? Holding HoH would be piece of cake on a sever with very low player population.
*Locked Chests? or unlocked barrels/wreckages?
*Insignia for all Armors? - probably better yes, would make more sets viable.
*Hard mode enabled? - this is very debatable and dangerous.
*Loot scaling? Maybe only in hardmode? Again comes the problem of the game degenerating into solo farmfest.
*AoE mob spreading? - imho should work as today.
*Any Titles? - imho they wouldn't hurt and would give more things to do, nice to be the first Protectior of Tyria on the server or a Vanquisher later if HM enabled at all.
*Favor of Gods issue - free access to UW/FoW ? Based on titles maxed? Or
*End of FoW and UW chests - drop inscribables? That could actually turn pretty interesting if the only inscribables on the server came only from them. +15^50 "Strength and Honor" 100k ok? Or maybe it's just better without them at all.

hmm maybe there should be a separate thread for discussing this?

mystical nessAL

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

DDrk

W/Mo

I understand your feeling, it was a very nice time. But what have is what have been, face it, the past will always look shiny, since you will never be able to get there ever again. :/

credit

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

Sounds cool, but as said previously not going to happen.

broncomania

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

i understand... i wasn't really suggesting converting the current system back to what it was back then. Just an experience for a short period of time on the old system (of course, a dummy one). That's it =)

At least, i wasn't the only one who missed the old time, hehe.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Why not just go and Make a character in pre-Searing?

Pre-searing is frozen in the old system. Enemies won't even run from AoE.

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

interesting idea will never happen but if it does....

ill take 2 mm's and go vanquishing with endless minions muahahahha ^_^

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
The devs can't just throw in a couple lines of code and put the economy back to where it was and make gold weapons worth something; and to make Superior Vigors and Superior Absorptions worth 70k+ again would just ruin everything.

Basically, you're right when you say things were better back 2+ years ago, but there's really no way to revert it, even for a weekend.

/that's unpossible
Gotta Say The original cd's still have the old code, there's a shred of chance they can do it. Still I don't see it happening.

- Ganni

Skye Marin

Skye Marin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

E/A

The good old times weren't.

kosh

kosh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

hydrponic agriculture society [Herb]

Mo/

wts sup abs 100k.

oh droks ad1,now where is my time machine?

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Why not just go and Make a character in pre-Searing?

Pre-searing is frozen in the old system. Enemies won't even run from AoE.
Yea, because pre-searing is basically the whole game, is it not?

Destro Maniak

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by hadin gar kain
i would salvage all the runes off my chars and sell them to rune trader, wait till weekend was over and re-buy them all at the modern cost.
grats you the merchant brain

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

its a nice idea, but ofcoarse you can never replace experiance, and since everyone is used to the game they'll see it stat wise more then the first memories

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

It could be done - but not with the game as a whole, that's impossible.

The only way to do a "wayback machine" on GW would be in the form of a mission, like in the Bonus Mission Pack, and even so it would be difficult to allow zoning. Well, at least you could experience the old style of combat and salvaging, with the original skills...

U Wanna Die

U Wanna Die

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

W/Mo

I am going to say that this would make my life and i would love for this to happen, but it is VERY IMPOSSIBLE, not because A Net couldn't do it, but players mindsets have changed, the economy has changed, if it was reverted i will get a Sup Rune and Spam SUP RUNE 25k OMG but someone will say, "i bought one last week for 4k whats the big deal." The game hasnt changed, the players have. Sorry to burst everyone's bubble but this is VERY IMPOSSIBLE!!

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kosh
wts sup abs 100k.

oh droks ad1,now where is my time machine?
seconded!!!!