With 10,000,000 points each needed to max these titles, its not fair that the bounties only yeild 5 pts per kill NM and 10 pts per kill HM. Even doing FFF at the estimated 10k per hour, it would still take 1000 hours of repetive gameplay to get to 10mil.
I think the bounty should be adjusted to:
Normal Mode: 10pts per kill with 10 point bonus per kill from killing a boss maximum of 250.
Hard Mode: 20 points per kill with 20 point bonus per kill from killing a boss maximum 500.
This would AT LEAST bring the two titles to a little more even grounds with the other grind rep titles.
Petition to adjust Kurzick/Luxon bounty.
sterbenx2
itsvictor
There's a distinct difference between this title and the other rep titles, it's that this one is ACCOUNT based, sure it's a very long title to do but then again it affects every single char you will ever make, getting more faction from anywhere would be nice though
/sign
/sign
Pleikki
Well Bountys suck 
just hfff/ab and you'll get em
just hfff/ab and you'll get em
Lady Yuna
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Originally Posted by sterbenx2
With 10,000,000 points each needed to max these titles, its not fair that the bounties only yeild 5 pts per kill NM and 10 pts per kill HM. Even doing FFF at the estimated 10k per hour, it would still take 1000 hours of repetive gameplay to get to 10mil.
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seut
I would like to see Anet adding the random bonuses from EotN (Boss Bounty, Rampage, etc.) to the Faction blessings.
Faction gain from HM PvE should be on par with FFF.
Faction gain from HM PvE should be on par with FFF.
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by Lady Yuna
What kind idiot would farm all 10,000,000 faction points all at once? Spread it out through the months, it's waaaaaayyyyyyy easier
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schaapie
/sign The pve much but sometimes do pvp to, this title is unreacheble for me at this moment.
Mister Muhkuh
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
What kind of idiot would want to farm 10million anything?
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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10243862
pick one ><
anyways
/signed
crazybanshee
/sign, I think kurz and luxon are way high compared to the other rep titles. You can't turn in books and there's no random bonuses like the other titles. I doubt at this point that they'll make such a radical change, because that would cheapen what people in the past have done to max the titles (tho I've only ever seen max kurz due to easy fff)
BUT how about more frequent kurz/lux bonus weekend events, could have double points in ab for the pvp'ers and double bounties for the pve'ers (since I doubt anet intended to make fff the fastest way to max kurz title, this would not help that route but encourage people to do it a different way)
BUT how about more frequent kurz/lux bonus weekend events, could have double points in ab for the pvp'ers and double bounties for the pve'ers (since I doubt anet intended to make fff the fastest way to max kurz title, this would not help that route but encourage people to do it a different way)
Malice Black
I got screenshoot'd 
Yeah..I avoid that forum for a reason.
Yeah..I avoid that forum for a reason.
Destro Maniak
/notsigned
if you cant do it you wont max it. Its not neccecery. HFFF is fast enough and they cut the title down in to half already
if you cant do it you wont max it. Its not neccecery. HFFF is fast enough and they cut the title down in to half already
Burning Blade
I am r9 by dedicating to AB for many many months. From R9 to R12 I don't see I will possibly achieve it. Even R10 is nearly impossible for me now.
So /signed
So /signed
genofreek
I sort of want the lowest displayable tier to show my Kurzick affiliations and get at the skill, but it's so low on my list of things to do. Plus, I hate how spending faction on one side makes it go away on both. D: Screw that, I worked hard to get my characters out of Cavalon and HzH!
Esprit
*gasp* It takes more than a week to max the title?! Oh no!
There is no reason and no need to make the title easier to get.
OP, you have not posted a valid reason to increase the bounty. The only reason you give is that it takes too long, and that sounds like whining to me.
So you have to spend time to get a title and there is not instant gratification, it won't hurt you.
/notsigned
There is no reason and no need to make the title easier to get.
OP, you have not posted a valid reason to increase the bounty. The only reason you give is that it takes too long, and that sounds like whining to me.
So you have to spend time to get a title and there is not instant gratification, it won't hurt you.
/notsigned
MithranArkanere
Time is running out. GW2 is comming. I can't leave GW1 until I max all titles in a single character.
The description of the current titles is wrong. You don't get just 'bonus' faction when killing a boss, you get like with Nightfall bounties in Hard Mode: +5/10 faction each Lvl>=20 enemy killed while under the blessing, for a max of 125/250 (25 enemies, well, actually, 24 enemies + the boss).
1.- First, they should separate the bounty and the title effect, just like with Lighbringer and the Eye of the North titles. Currently you can have both blessings equiped (that makes +50HP and +6 regen). They should link it to the title, so if you select the title, you get the effect:
'Aligned' means more faction of that side than of the other, not your alliance allegiance.
With this, more people should go AB to get control over areas and gain better bonuses while vanquishing. AB to make vanquishing easier. Sounds nice.
2.- Then we make the bounties given for free by priests if you are aligned to them or by paying 50g if not.
3.- And finally, we change the gaining points to work like EotN bounties. The more enemies you kill, the higher the boss bounty:
+3 point per killed enemy in Normal Mode. (For a max of 250 enemies/750 points)
+6 points per each enemy slain Hard Mode. (For a max of 250 enemies/1500 points)
Vanquishing One area in HM should give 5..10k. This way:
The description of the current titles is wrong. You don't get just 'bonus' faction when killing a boss, you get like with Nightfall bounties in Hard Mode: +5/10 faction each Lvl>=20 enemy killed while under the blessing, for a max of 125/250 (25 enemies, well, actually, 24 enemies + the boss).
1.- First, they should separate the bounty and the title effect, just like with Lighbringer and the Eye of the North titles. Currently you can have both blessings equiped (that makes +50HP and +6 regen). They should link it to the title, so if you select the title, you get the effect:
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Kurzick/Luxon Supporter Title. If you are aligned to the Kurzick/Luxons +5..25 HP you gain and +1..3 HP regeneration while in Luxon or Kurzick territories. You gain double this bonus if no shrines in the area are controlled by the other faction, and half is all shrines are controlled by the other faction. |
With this, more people should go AB to get control over areas and gain better bonuses while vanquishing. AB to make vanquishing easier. Sounds nice.
2.- Then we make the bounties given for free by priests if you are aligned to them or by paying 50g if not.
3.- And finally, we change the gaining points to work like EotN bounties. The more enemies you kill, the higher the boss bounty:
+3 point per killed enemy in Normal Mode. (For a max of 250 enemies/750 points)
+6 points per each enemy slain Hard Mode. (For a max of 250 enemies/1500 points)
Vanquishing One area in HM should give 5..10k. This way:
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Kurzick/Luxon Vigilante Blessing. You gain 5/10 Kurzick/Luxon faction anytime you slay a enemy with level 20 or more. When you slay a boss, you gain +3/6 additional faction (maximum 1000/1500) for each enemy slain while under the effects of this bounty. |
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by Pleikki
Well Bountys suck
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Currently, the requirement is just too absurd for something like this.
/signed
sterbenx2
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Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Yea, he knows you'll get em, but he says it will take upwards of 1000 hours, which is just too much for one max title, Incorrigible Ale Hound only takes about 170 hours or so of drinking, which is less than 1/5 of this one.
Currently, the requirement is just too absurd for something like this. /signed |
Seriously, these two titles are designed for PvP so they should either make two different versions of these titles, one for PvE and one for PvP, or make it easier for PvE players to max them.
credit
If you want quick faction go FFF or AB.
/signed
/signed
kerpall
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
3.- And finally, we change the gaining points to work like EotN bounties. The more enemies you kill, the higher the boss bounty:
+3 point per killed enemy in Normal Mode. (For a max of 250 enemies/750 points) +6 points per each enemy slain Hard Mode. (For a max of 250 enemies/1500 points) Vanquishing One area in HM should give 5..10k. This way: |
The Legg
It would be good to have a boost in the luxon/kurzick title tracks, maybe putting it in line with the EoTN system as has been mentioned earlier.
However I can see the other side as well, this title is account wide afte all and should not be easy/quick to get.
Myself I am closing in on 6 million luxon, the majority of the being from alliance battles. i do enjoy hard mode farming runs to add some variation, but the repetative nature of this pales in comparison to the fun of pvp. If they did increase the reards it would make it a more appealing form of gaining this title.
However I can see the other side as well, this title is account wide afte all and should not be easy/quick to get.
Myself I am closing in on 6 million luxon, the majority of the being from alliance battles. i do enjoy hard mode farming runs to add some variation, but the repetative nature of this pales in comparison to the fun of pvp. If they did increase the reards it would make it a more appealing form of gaining this title.
MithranArkanere
There are ... let's see... around 8 areas for each side. If vanquishing each one granted 10k points, it would be still only 80k points from the total 10million.
Won't harm anyone.
Won't harm anyone.
kerpall
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
QQ less and learn to hFFF.
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I wouldnt mind somewhat higher rewards for winning teams. Regardless of how many more points you get for winning / losing , you are still required to win to get the points, so your not making the actual Alliance Battle easier, your just making points quicker.
Anyone can argue against me thinking AB rewards are too low, but thats just because you are bitter that you already have lots of points from AB. You can deny that you already have wasted your time getting that many points, but if you dont already have that much points, why are you argueing me against making rewards better?
The main point of this is: Obtaining faction points is much more time consuming for pvp chars, than pve.
Zahr Dalsk
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Also, you might want to go and repeat the same thing over and over, 25000 times to get ONE title but most other people don't share your "dedication"
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(Oh, and higher faction in AB would be awesome. But in explorable areas? No, what's the point?)
MithranArkanere
Just think about it this way. Let's take the typical run for each title:
50k max:
Lightbringer: Margonite bosses quest run: ~600 points. Run 5..10 min.
Sunspear: Undead run: ~600points 4..7 min.
160k max:
Norn: Asura quest run: 5000..11000points. 30..50 min.
Deldrimor: Snowmen Lair: 1000..4000 points. 15..25min.
Asura: Arbor Bay: 2000..6000points. 40..70min.
Ebon Vanguard Rank: 4000..5000 points. 70..140 min.
Even if you divide the 10 million between 10 characters (1 million for each one)
You end up having an PvE/PvP title working like a PvP title, really hard to max unless you focus a lot in it.
There may be a big PvP part in it, but the title is mainly PvE, linked to PvE skills. It should take more or less the same to max like 10..26 times any other of those titles, not 500..1000 times like it is right now.
50k max:
Lightbringer: Margonite bosses quest run: ~600 points. Run 5..10 min.
Sunspear: Undead run: ~600points 4..7 min.
160k max:
Norn: Asura quest run: 5000..11000points. 30..50 min.
Deldrimor: Snowmen Lair: 1000..4000 points. 15..25min.
Asura: Arbor Bay: 2000..6000points. 40..70min.
Ebon Vanguard Rank: 4000..5000 points. 70..140 min.
Even if you divide the 10 million between 10 characters (1 million for each one)
You end up having an PvE/PvP title working like a PvP title, really hard to max unless you focus a lot in it.
There may be a big PvP part in it, but the title is mainly PvE, linked to PvE skills. It should take more or less the same to max like 10..26 times any other of those titles, not 500..1000 times like it is right now.
Reinfire
/notsigned
People should stop whining about titles they cannot get, its not the end of the world
People should stop whining about titles they cannot get, its not the end of the world
Wyat Hawke
/signed
People should stop whining at others for something neither of them can achieve.
People should stop whining at others for something neither of them can achieve.
Horseman Of War
actually Ill cast my vote toward 'nerfing' or 'killing' all FFF. The fact that pve toons have an easier aquisition of k/l faction is a JOKE that needs to be addressed.
MrGuildBoi
/signed, makes bounty in the area more desirable.
(Look at the thread number 10251337 xD (In the URL/address bar))
(Look at the thread number 10251337 xD (In the URL/address bar))
Asha Rai
/signed
Alternatively, let the skills max at around r7 or r8
Alternatively, let the skills max at around r7 or r8
VinnyRidira
/signed
The problem is that most of my characters went through Factions before the PvE skills. The other thing is the stupid 10000 limit and penalizing you when you spend faction. If I spend Kurzick Faction the Luxon faction gets removed and vice versa. I am Kurzick aligned and have had to get 10000 Luxon in order to get to Gyala Hatchery open for Zho's Journal or doing all the Mission in Master in Factions. Granted it is account wide, but as most of these PvE skills are not great at the low levels - The Ritualist one excluded - I have not bothered to even try to get this Title to level 8. Farming faction FFF requires 4 people at least, so Arborstone is far easier for the Faction in hardmode. Gives about the same amount of Faction and drops of green weapons occasionally. The whole alliance faction thing is really to my mind a really crap idea. The fact that you lose 10% of your alliance faction a day is so demoralizing you end up saying "screw this".
Well hopefully we can get a double Kurzick faction weekend again soon.
The problem is that most of my characters went through Factions before the PvE skills. The other thing is the stupid 10000 limit and penalizing you when you spend faction. If I spend Kurzick Faction the Luxon faction gets removed and vice versa. I am Kurzick aligned and have had to get 10000 Luxon in order to get to Gyala Hatchery open for Zho's Journal or doing all the Mission in Master in Factions. Granted it is account wide, but as most of these PvE skills are not great at the low levels - The Ritualist one excluded - I have not bothered to even try to get this Title to level 8. Farming faction FFF requires 4 people at least, so Arborstone is far easier for the Faction in hardmode. Gives about the same amount of Faction and drops of green weapons occasionally. The whole alliance faction thing is really to my mind a really crap idea. The fact that you lose 10% of your alliance faction a day is so demoralizing you end up saying "screw this".
Well hopefully we can get a double Kurzick faction weekend again soon.
tracco
It's only 500 hundred hours.
When you spend faction on raising alliance faction, it counts it twice.
When you spend faction on raising alliance faction, it counts it twice.
VinnyRidira
Were all of these people who complain about whiners beaten as children? Are they willing to accept whatever is dished out to them as their due? Do they really live in a democratic society? They are the people who make posting in this forum unpleasant.
MithranArkanere
Yeah. People with Factions only should be able to get more Faction when vanquuishing.
Specially since it's harder without Heroes.
They deserve to have the Faction completely filled with a single vanquish.
Specially since it's harder without Heroes.
They deserve to have the Faction completely filled with a single vanquish.
MithranArkanere
Back in those days factions ahd almost no PvE use. Not it's much more PvE than PvP.
Why to be so picky about it?
Why to be so picky about it?
The Little Viking
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I would like to see Anet adding the random bonuses from EotN (Boss Bounty, Rampage, etc.) to the Faction blessings.
Faction gain from HM PvE should be on par with FFF. |
I agree. /signed
chowmein69
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Originally Posted by seut
I would like to see Anet adding the random bonuses from EotN (Boss Bounty, Rampage, etc.) to the Faction blessings.
Faction gain from HM PvE should be on par with FFF. |
/signed
zwei2stein
Seut wins it.
Crippie its Tom
/signed...
I've played guildwars for 17 months and about 675 hours.... I'm not cut out to farm 10m kurzick faction lolz.
I've played guildwars for 17 months and about 675 hours.... I'm not cut out to farm 10m kurzick faction lolz.
EinherjarMx
nah, just add random blessings like in GWEN
newbie_of_doom
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Originally Posted by sterbenx2
With 10,000,000 points each needed to max these titles, its not fair that the bounties only yeild 5 pts per kill NM and 10 pts per kill HM. Even doing FFF at the estimated 10k per hour, it would still take 1000 hours of repetive gameplay to get to 10mil.
I think the bounty should be adjusted to: Normal Mode: 10pts per kill with 10 point bonus per kill from killing a boss maximum of 250. Hard Mode: 20 points per kill with 20 point bonus per kill from killing a boss maximum 500. This would AT LEAST bring the two titles to a little more even grounds with the other grind rep titles. |