I enjoy playing computer games but the problem is I have no clue about anything computer related on the hardware side. I have no clue about video cards, cooling systems, fans, etc etc. All I know is my current computer is getting old, had it over 2 years 4 months. I am interested in some new games, Bioshock, Crysis, Orange Box, Gears of War,Oblivion, but the problem is according to http://www.systemrequirementslab.com my computer can't handle any of these games. I am somewhat weary to go to bestbuy or circuit city and talk to the sales reps because when I talked to them they tried to convince me to get some really expensive items. I am sure those speakers from Bose for 200 $ will really improve my game.... I already have a pretty good monitor. What computers should I be looking at to play these games? It would be helpful if you could link them. I know people say go to newegg and custom build but the problem is I have no clue about computers, and have no experiance building anything remotely complicated.
EDIT - Here is my computer information
System tab
- System Manufacturer: Emachines
- System Model: T6520
- Processor: AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3400+ , MMX, 3DNow, ~2.4GHZ
- Memory: 1022MB Ram
Graphics Card
Name: ATI Radeon X1050
Memory: 256.0MB
Current Display Mode: 1152 x 864 (32bit) (60Hz)
I have no clue about computers. What to upgrade too for latest games?
Toxage
Albert Algorn
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I know people say go to newegg and custom build but the problem is I have no clue about computers, and have no experiance building anything remotely complicated.
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Rule of thumb go with the best video card/s, fastest cpu and most (and fastest) RAM you can afford, though the RAM is easy to swap out at a latter date... For the most part the sound on a good quality motherboard should be sufficient to do the job.
Still the best option is to build it yourself... Good Luck!
Martin Firestorm
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If this is the case go I would suggest you go to a local computer store and custom build a computer. It will cost you a little more than a custom machine build from parts you order and assemble but has the potential to be much better than any off the shelf or mail order system. If you go this route it will make it easier for you to update your system down the road with new technology as it becomes "required". An added benifit is you don't have to deal with all the ****ware that comes prebundled on a computer.
Rule of thumb go with the best video card/s, fastest cpu and most (and fastest) RAM you can afford, though the RAM is easy to swap out at a latter date... For the most part the sound on a good quality motherboard should be sufficient to do the job. Still the best option is to build it yourself... Good Luck! |
props for trying to help, but lol, did you not read this part:
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but the problem is I have no clue about anything computer related on the hardware side. I have no clue about video cards, cooling systems, fans, etc etc.
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but the problem is I have no clue about computers, and have no experiance building anything remotely complicated.
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magi of the light
do you have a price range?
go for an allien ware or a dell XPS those comps arent half bad.
go for an allien ware or a dell XPS those comps arent half bad.
Elder III
If you have it done at your local computer shop/store by their qualified technicians a Custom Build is a great way to go. Without knowing what you have for a computer now it's hard to really say what you need. You may be able to upgrade a couple items and play those games rather than spending allot of $$$ on a brand new machine.
If money is not much of an issue, you could go with a semi custom computer (built to order within specifications) from a reputable company online. I recommend www.alienware.com & www.cyberpowerpc.com, or the XPS from Dell. - - - Get a dual core processor (the largest number you can afford), a DEDICATED Graphics Card with 256mb of VRAM or more(a big variety of video cards out there, so do some research), 2 GB of RAM or more, (but don't get over 3 unless you have a 64bit Operating System), and a backlit screen (trueview, briteview etc) capable of handling a decent resolution (I like a 1400x900 widescreen or higher).
That's the most important stuff, and with those basics you should have a PC that's capable of playing the latest games at high settings. Hope that helps.
If money is not much of an issue, you could go with a semi custom computer (built to order within specifications) from a reputable company online. I recommend www.alienware.com & www.cyberpowerpc.com, or the XPS from Dell. - - - Get a dual core processor (the largest number you can afford), a DEDICATED Graphics Card with 256mb of VRAM or more(a big variety of video cards out there, so do some research), 2 GB of RAM or more, (but don't get over 3 unless you have a 64bit Operating System), and a backlit screen (trueview, briteview etc) capable of handling a decent resolution (I like a 1400x900 widescreen or higher).
That's the most important stuff, and with those basics you should have a PC that's capable of playing the latest games at high settings. Hope that helps.
Toxage
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Originally Posted by Elder III
Without knowing what you have for a computer now it's hard to really say what you need. You may be able to upgrade a couple items and play those games rather than spending allot of $$$ on a brand new machine.
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I Dont Do Coke
Put a price range in your post please. Help us to help you.
Lol. Here's an idea of what kind of graphics processing power it takes to run Crysis.
They may improve your gaming experience, not the game itself.
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...video cards...Crysis.
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speakers from Bose for 200 $ will really improve my game
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eggrolls
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How do I know what I have on my computer? The stickers on it have faded and fallen off.
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Under the System tab, tell us your:
- System Manufacturer
- System Model
- Processor
- Memory
And under the Display tab, tell us the name of your graphics card, the amount of memory it has, and your current display mode (resolution).
Tarun
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If money is not much of an issue, you could go with a semi custom computer (built to order within specifications) from a reputable company online. I recommend www.alienware.com & www.cyberpowerpc.com, or the XPS from Dell.
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Go Start > Run, type in dxdiag and press enter.
Under the System tab, tell us your: - System Manufacturer - System Model - Processor - Memory And under the Display tab, tell us the name of your graphics card, the amount of memory it has, and your current display mode (resolution). |
EVEREST Free gives you all the information need you and much more under the Summary section.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html
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Why use everest?
it can't tell me the correct OS i'm using, what version of DX i'm running....and to top if off, it tells me my multiplier is set to x7 lol.
the dxdiag report was good enough to get a few of us into the beta for conan, it should be good enough for a simple post as well. no need to run crap like that(everest).
/re-roll here is a screenie of the proggies back to back. (I added the arrows of course lol)
it can't tell me the correct OS i'm using, what version of DX i'm running....and to top if off, it tells me my multiplier is set to x7 lol.
the dxdiag report was good enough to get a few of us into the beta for conan, it should be good enough for a simple post as well. no need to run crap like that(everest).
/re-roll here is a screenie of the proggies back to back. (I added the arrows of course lol)
iridescentfyre
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No, just... no.
EVEREST Free gives you all the information need you and much more under the Summary section. http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html |
Enlighten me?
eggrolls
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I'm very curious why its so necessary that the OP download and run third-party crap just to tell us what processor, RAM, and video card they're running.. basic OS components can give us the same info.
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Tarun
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Look at it this way. You can either get a very limited amount of information from dxdiag (which techs don't really make use of unless they're diagnosing DirectX) or you can use a utility like EVEREST, SIW, AIDA32, msinfo32.exe etc etc which can provide a comprehensive and detailed summary of system information about a system.
I'd easily pick the EVEREST(Free/Ultimate)/SIW/AIDA32 report over the dxdiag because you will get much more useful information.
@flubber: then try the EVEREST Ultimate trial which is up-to-date. I know it works because I use it often on the job site.
http://www.lavalys.com/products/down...?ps=UE&lang=en
Look at it this way. You can either get a very limited amount of information from dxdiag (which techs don't really make use of unless they're diagnosing DirectX) or you can use a utility like EVEREST, SIW, AIDA32, msinfo32.exe etc etc which can provide a comprehensive and detailed summary of system information about a system.
I'd easily pick the EVEREST(Free/Ultimate)/SIW/AIDA32 report over the dxdiag because you will get much more useful information.
@flubber: then try the EVEREST Ultimate trial which is up-to-date. I know it works because I use it often on the job site.
http://www.lavalys.com/products/down...?ps=UE&lang=en
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no thanks, dxdiag works just fine.
Albert Algorn
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props for trying to help, but lol, did you not read this part:
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inho Alienware is over priced and not as high end as they used to be and Dell - well even their "high end" boxes, the XPS aren't great gaming platforms. If I had to mail order a computer I suppose I would go with a Vigor...
Showtime
If you really want a computer suited to your needs, you will need to do more than just ask here. There are tech sites and deal sites that can help you out.
Tech sites will tell you to buy the latest and greatest so as not to have to upgrade later. Deal sites will explain that the midrange systems are good enough and with the money you save now, you can fully upgrade to something better in a few years. Both can show you how to build your own rig and overclock and tweak it for better performance for your dollar. Anandtech is good for that and for finding deals on parts.
I recommend going to fatwallet or slickdeals and looking for a deal on a dell pentium based dual core and then upgrading your video card and ram using one of their deals. Dell has unadvertised deals for basic systems starting at $300 and systems with lcd monitors for just over $500. It just takes some time to research and some times you have to wait for the deals to pop up. Usually theres some sweet deals every couple of months. All deal threads in the forums now have ratings and the ratings are pretty accurate. A 5 star deal is what you want.
Tech sites will tell you to buy the latest and greatest so as not to have to upgrade later. Deal sites will explain that the midrange systems are good enough and with the money you save now, you can fully upgrade to something better in a few years. Both can show you how to build your own rig and overclock and tweak it for better performance for your dollar. Anandtech is good for that and for finding deals on parts.
I recommend going to fatwallet or slickdeals and looking for a deal on a dell pentium based dual core and then upgrading your video card and ram using one of their deals. Dell has unadvertised deals for basic systems starting at $300 and systems with lcd monitors for just over $500. It just takes some time to research and some times you have to wait for the deals to pop up. Usually theres some sweet deals every couple of months. All deal threads in the forums now have ratings and the ratings are pretty accurate. A 5 star deal is what you want.
Snograt
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go for a Dell or a Dell... |
(note: not a recommendation - just pointing out that Alienware got swallowed by Dell
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Toxage
Here is my computer information.
System tab
- System Manufacturer: Emachines
- System Model: T6520
- Processor: AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3400+ , MMX, 3DNow, ~2.4GHZ
- Memory: 1022MB Ram
Graphics Card
Name: ATI Radeon X1050
Memory: 256.0MB
Current Display Mode: 1152 x 864 (32bit) (60Hz)
System tab
- System Manufacturer: Emachines
- System Model: T6520
- Processor: AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3400+ , MMX, 3DNow, ~2.4GHZ
- Memory: 1022MB Ram
Graphics Card
Name: ATI Radeon X1050
Memory: 256.0MB
Current Display Mode: 1152 x 864 (32bit) (60Hz)
Tarun
Upgrade your RAM to 3GB and you should be fine.
Toxage
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Upgrade your RAM to 3GB and you should be fine.
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Systemreq syas I need to upgrade my video card, ram, cpu, and I need to get a dvd-rom.
eggrolls
Your computer specs:
http://www.emachines.com/support/pro...es&model=T6520
How much are you willing to spend to upgrade? Also, how long until you buy a whole new computer?
Any upgrades you buy now cannot be carried over to a new computer, with the exception of the video card. That is because your computer uses DDR memory and a socket 939 (or 754?) CPU, which are no longer found in new computers.
Biggest impact on performance is the video card, since your current one is integrated. Since there is a PCI-e slot, you can put any modern PCI-e video card. Faster cards require more power, so you will be limited by how good your power supply is, unless you are willing to replace that as well.
Max memory is 2GB according to the specs. Memory is cheap, so probably worth upgrading.
Add a DVD-ROM if you need or want one. They're only like $20-30 anyways.
CPU would be the last thing I'd upgrade. They're harder to find than any of the things above. You might be able to find a dual core CPU, so if you have money to spare after the other parts (and still not satisfied with the performance), then upgrade it.
http://www.emachines.com/support/pro...es&model=T6520
How much are you willing to spend to upgrade? Also, how long until you buy a whole new computer?
Any upgrades you buy now cannot be carried over to a new computer, with the exception of the video card. That is because your computer uses DDR memory and a socket 939 (or 754?) CPU, which are no longer found in new computers.
Biggest impact on performance is the video card, since your current one is integrated. Since there is a PCI-e slot, you can put any modern PCI-e video card. Faster cards require more power, so you will be limited by how good your power supply is, unless you are willing to replace that as well.
Max memory is 2GB according to the specs. Memory is cheap, so probably worth upgrading.
Add a DVD-ROM if you need or want one. They're only like $20-30 anyways.
CPU would be the last thing I'd upgrade. They're harder to find than any of the things above. You might be able to find a dual core CPU, so if you have money to spare after the other parts (and still not satisfied with the performance), then upgrade it.
Toxage
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Your computer specs:
http://www.emachines.com/support/pro...es&model=T6520 How much are you willing to spend to upgrade? Also, how long until you buy a whole new computer? Any upgrades you buy now cannot be carried over to a new computer, with the exception of the video card. That is because your computer uses DDR memory and a socket 939 (or 754?) CPU, which are no longer found in new computers. Biggest impact on performance is the video card, since your current one is integrated. Since there is a PCI-e slot, you can put any modern PCI-e video card. Faster cards require more power, so you will be limited by how good your power supply is, unless you are willing to replace that as well. Max memory is 2GB according to the specs. Memory is cheap, so probably worth upgrading. Add a DVD-ROM if you need or want one. They're only like $20-30 anyways. CPU would be the last thing I'd upgrade. They're harder to find than any of the things above. You might be able to find a dual core CPU, so if you have money to spare after the other parts (and still not satisfied with the performance), then upgrade it. |
Tarun
A new computer after seeing the link of what your computer specs are.
Toxage
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A new computer after seeing the link of what your computer specs are.
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Narada
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Could you elaborate on this? What would you recommend for a new computer?
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arsie
For about $1000 you can get:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 (best dual core for Intel now)
nForce 650i motherboard (most cost efficient motherboard, imo. assorted brands)
nVidia GeForce 8800GT 512k vram (cheapest good card, assorted brands)
2gb of DDR2-800 ram (non-fancy ones, get a good brand)
SATA2 7200rpm 320gb Hard Disk Drive
Antec 550watt Power Supply Unit.
and all the other bits and bobs to build your box. (uh, no Blu-Ray)
That should be enough for you to play current games. I consider that this would be an "entry level gaming" rig for 2008. Its expandable to 8gb ram, and can support 2 video cards with SLI, and the motherboard can accomodate the current top CPUs. Wait a few more months for Quad cores to drop to current E6850 prices and you'll be laughing.
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 (best dual core for Intel now)
nForce 650i motherboard (most cost efficient motherboard, imo. assorted brands)
nVidia GeForce 8800GT 512k vram (cheapest good card, assorted brands)
2gb of DDR2-800 ram (non-fancy ones, get a good brand)
SATA2 7200rpm 320gb Hard Disk Drive
Antec 550watt Power Supply Unit.
and all the other bits and bobs to build your box. (uh, no Blu-Ray)
That should be enough for you to play current games. I consider that this would be an "entry level gaming" rig for 2008. Its expandable to 8gb ram, and can support 2 video cards with SLI, and the motherboard can accomodate the current top CPUs. Wait a few more months for Quad cores to drop to current E6850 prices and you'll be laughing.
Why_Me
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For about $1000 you can get:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 (best dual core for Intel now) nForce 650i motherboard (most cost efficient motherboard, imo. assorted brands) nVidia GeForce 8800GT 512k vram (cheapest good card, assorted brands) 2gb of DDR2-800 ram (non-fancy ones, get a good brand) SATA2 7200rpm 320gb Hard Disk Drive Antec 550watt Power Supply Unit. and all the other bits and bobs to build your box. (uh, no Blu-Ray) That should be enough for you to play current games. I consider that this would be an "entry level gaming" rig for 2008. Its expandable to 8gb ram, and can support 2 video cards with SLI, and the motherboard can accomodate the current top CPUs. Wait a few more months for Quad cores to drop to current E6850 prices and you'll be laughing. |
Thats assuming your parents are willing to help you out. Cyberpowerpc is a good site for custom builts.
Otherwise, with your budget of 200$ the absolute best upgrade would be to buy a ati 3850 512mb. This is the best price performance card on the market, and can easily be bought for under 200$ after shipping and tax.
Narada
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Thats assuming your parents are willing to help you out. Cyberpowerpc is a good site for custom builts.
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