Be honest has anyone really dones this without necrotic traversal?
I have been trying for weeks, with different parties or with heroes and hench. My character is a ranger and even the mission, which ued to be quite easy is now becoming almost impossible.
Dunes of Despair - Bonus
Grognar
Ghengis Kwell
*puts hand up* I did it ages ago without using NT.
JONO51
Yes. Both times done it without. Bond ghostly then rush the bosses with the rest of the team. Give me your aggro lolz
Antheus
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Be honest has anyone really dones this without necrotic traversal?
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Kityn
Yes. Thing is you kill one of the Generals and the surrounding mobs where you would normally use Necrotic Traversal. You then go back and slay the Ghost mob.
I forget the specific time ,but at that time when mobs are less frequent you then split the group.
Usually it is 1 MM, 1 other, and 1 monk stays behind.
Then 1 warrior/tank, 1 other ranged damage dealer or hexer, and 1 monk. You let the tank pull one of the groups of generals and mobs to the door near those mobs. Let the tank block the door and let the others do their thing.
Do that twice and bonus is yours. Run back to the Ghost asap to help out the split team. By then they are usually in deep trouble.
Thing is this tactic does fail at the Ghost side at times. Might have to redo the mission to get through this mission.
I forget the specific time ,but at that time when mobs are less frequent you then split the group.
Usually it is 1 MM, 1 other, and 1 monk stays behind.
Then 1 warrior/tank, 1 other ranged damage dealer or hexer, and 1 monk. You let the tank pull one of the groups of generals and mobs to the door near those mobs. Let the tank block the door and let the others do their thing.
Do that twice and bonus is yours. Run back to the Ghost asap to help out the split team. By then they are usually in deep trouble.
Thing is this tactic does fail at the Ghost side at times. Might have to redo the mission to get through this mission.
Ctb
I didn't even know about NT when I first did it. It was very frustrating.
Ghypic
Bonder works fine O.o Did it with my monk, and well.. Ghostly survived while me and my henchies were off killing some enemies :P
Easier then NT imo.. and faster
Easier then NT imo.. and faster
Rift
I did this the 'real' way in NM, but used the trick in HM with H/H.
However the funniest thing happened to me. I only had traversal on myself (ranger) and a healer, and was planning to take on the bosses using only this setup. It wasn't working out so good, up until the point I saw the rest of my H/H team running towards the flag I had set for the monk.
Either this was an enormously useful glitch, or the henchmen know of secret paths in this mission we don't :/
However the funniest thing happened to me. I only had traversal on myself (ranger) and a healer, and was planning to take on the bosses using only this setup. It wasn't working out so good, up until the point I saw the rest of my H/H team running towards the flag I had set for the monk.
Either this was an enormously useful glitch, or the henchmen know of secret paths in this mission we don't :/
Lord Feathers
With all the skills avialable anymore all you really need is a hard hitting group to rush the generals toward the back while someone baby sits the ghost.
pipo
what we did was really easy, on the south-side of the fort u can lure a general with a longbow and his group , 2 nukers is enough to kill him ,
then put the ghost on the altar, and start fighting te first 4 groups or so.
then leave a healer with healing circle and heal area next to the ghost, and go on hunt for the 2 more generals.
i did it with 2 real life nukers and the rest heros.
then put the ghost on the altar, and start fighting te first 4 groups or so.
then leave a healer with healing circle and heal area next to the ghost, and go on hunt for the 2 more generals.
i did it with 2 real life nukers and the rest heros.
Steboy93
I did it the proper way in nm, however in hm found myself forced to use the NT trick.
blurmedia
Bonder = GG .
the Puppeteer
1 bonder for the ghostly hero 
HawkofStorms
Yes. Before I knew about the NT trick. I BARELY did it before the ghostly was killed. It is pretty impossible to get both at once without a bonder.
stretchs
I did this and got the heros/henchies to run to me as well, it was like they used magic disappearing wall tricks to slip through and meet up with me, was very odd. Never really spent the time to research where they actually went to get around it
jezz
same as everyone else..bonded ghost..
would be nice if they gave us a few more min on the timer though..IMO
would be nice if they gave us a few more min on the timer though..IMO
Kook~NBK~
I did it with a couple guildies & hench on my ranger a very long time ago. Got the bonus with 0 seconds on the clock!
Silly Warrior
I just bonded the ghost...it was very easy?
Lady Lozza
Take two monks into the mission and leave one with the ghost - works a treat. Or if the rush group is game, take only one monk and leave it with the ghost. This also works. I don't normally use the NT version because it can be a bit tempremental at times.
Painbringer
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I did this and got the heros/henchies to run to me as well, it was like they used magic disappearing wall tricks to slip through and meet up with me, was very odd. Never really spent the time to research where they actually went to get around it
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vamperik
Just done this in Hard mode (without NT) with H/H took a few goes but was'nt too bad. Just defend the ghost until the boss attacks and then after that no more mobs come and you get about 5 mins to kill the generals, dont worry about the wurms as they dont seem to be able to reach the ghost. 
GloryFox
Puts hand up,
A long time ago on a dune far far away...
Yes you can still do it with 3 minutes to go, and defeat all three bosses. At 3 minutes to go there are no more enemies. Just steam roll em.
or URSAN! EM...
A long time ago on a dune far far away...
Yes you can still do it with 3 minutes to go, and defeat all three bosses. At 3 minutes to go there are no more enemies. Just steam roll em.
or URSAN! EM...
Mark Nevermiss
I did it about 8 months ago on my ranger with Tahlkora as bonder.
Racthoh
Whenever you kill one of the generals it spawns a group that goes after the ghostly. You can learn where those groups spawn and aggro them before taking out the next general.
You can also pull one of the generals prior to killing the ghostly. However unless that general has a means of attacking you it'll eventually run away out of reach.
You can also pull one of the generals prior to killing the ghostly. However unless that general has a means of attacking you it'll eventually run away out of reach.
Muspellsheimr
I have completed Mission+Bonus several times in the same run without using Necrotic, or similar techniques. I have done it even without bonding the ghost. It's called a split - usually 2/4.
On a side note, technically I could truthfully say I have never done it with necrotic at all, even though I have used that technique once or twice. (Consume Corpse)
On a side note, technically I could truthfully say I have never done it with necrotic at all, even though I have used that technique once or twice. (Consume Corpse)
Smile Like Umean It
I did this easy with H/H.
Followed the mission as normal and after beating the first boss I took off for the last two. Didn't even bother leaving Dunk to babysit the ghostly. I easily overwhelmed them and even have time to get back and heal our ghostly if I need the actual mission done.
Followed the mission as normal and after beating the first boss I took off for the last two. Didn't even bother leaving Dunk to babysit the ghostly. I easily overwhelmed them and even have time to get back and heal our ghostly if I need the actual mission done.
chowmein69
i had to use NT for HM but for NM ,got a bonder to bond ghostly and the rest attacks general
JoeKnowMo
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Whenever you kill one of the generals it spawns a group that goes after the ghostly. You can learn where those groups spawn and aggro them before taking out the next general.
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You can take out the first general around the 7 min mark and head back to the ghostly. Then take out the SE general around the 4 min mark and kill the mob that spawns which leaves enough time for the last general.
Avarre
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Take two monks into the mission and leave one with the ghost - works a treat.
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Freke
No because I wanted to explore right after too.
Tarkin
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QFT.
You can take out the first general around the 7 min mark and head back to the ghostly. Then take out the SE general around the 4 min mark and kill the mob that spawns which leaves enough time for the last general. |
Konig Des Todes
I've done this mish and bonus without NT twice, both times I flaged my monk and MM heroes a the ghostly hero, brought an ele hero, war and monk hench with me to the 3 bosses. Hardest part for me was getting to the first boss *the bugs popping up and a few groups running into the temple from that exit*. On my sin, I beat it first try, with 5 min to go. With my para, took 2 tries for the bonus, got it with about 4 min left.
Lykan
Never done it with NT, how do you do it with NT?
LAst time i did it i just stayed back with my war and a Hero monk for a bit, then went and helped tear the bosses apart.
LAst time i did it i just stayed back with my war and a Hero monk for a bit, then went and helped tear the bosses apart.
Molock
Umm.. I got masters on this ages ago and did it with a very inexperienced group. Its quite easy, you just need enough firepower to mow down the mobs fast enough.
Pleikki
me too never done with necrotic travensal. Just get hero bonder its easyest way 
Cebe
Yep, I did it with one other human + heroes a while back. We killed a few of the forgotten groups that run in to the ghost and then my parner took the heroes and went for the Generals while I stayed behind to keep Mr Ghost alive. I was a Restoration Ritualist.
As for Hard Mode, only done it once, and I did use Necrotic Traversal that time, and happily enough, managed to get back inside the base to finish the mission and bonus in one run after I'd killed the generals.
As for Hard Mode, only done it once, and I did use Necrotic Traversal that time, and happily enough, managed to get back inside the base to finish the mission and bonus in one run after I'd killed the generals.
Artisan Archer
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Originally Posted by Rift
I did this the 'real' way in NM, but used the trick in HM with H/H.
However the funniest thing happened to me. I only had traversal on myself (ranger) and a healer, and was planning to take on the bosses using only this setup. It wasn't working out so good, up until the point I saw the rest of my H/H team running towards the flag I had set for the monk. Either this was an enormously useful glitch, or the henchmen know of secret paths in this mission we don't :/ |
netniwk
I did it the badass way,no healer on the hero,just rush the generals.
Yang Whirlwind
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Originally Posted by Grognar
Be honest has anyone really dones this without necrotic traversal?
I have been trying for weeks, with different parties or with heroes and hench. My character is a ranger and even the mission, which ued to be quite easy is now becoming almost impossible. |
Going to have to do the NT soon though - need to map out the last bits for Carto and the HM mission for Guardian!
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Grognar
Be honest has anyone really dones this without necrotic traversal?
I have been trying for weeks, with different parties or with heroes and hench. My character is a ranger and even the mission, which ued to be quite easy is now becoming almost impossible. |
There is only really 2 ways to do it....
1) Nectrotic as you said.. which doesnt always work as the bosses dont always spawn close enough..
2) A monk and half the team keep the ghost alive, while the other half kill the bosses.
Ive done both! I even did it once where we used the necrotic trick, but only myself and another person teleported and we nuked the bosses to hell.
Apparently it was quite a site from the wall to watch meteor shower raining down on them!
How ever if your doing it in Hard Mode, you simply cant do it without necrotic in my opinion.
Also you can't explore that area unless you use nectrotic too! So using nectrotic gives the opportunity to explore that mission map too.