Legendary Guardian title track change?

Anon-e-mouse

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Let me start off by saying this is not about having a easier time of maxing KoaBD.

But thinking things through, I think the following makes at least some sort of sense. In that I believe it would be a good idea if Legendary Guardian could be split into 2 seperate tracks.

First track would be Legendary Protector, which as the title implies would mean you've completed all the missions and bonus objectives in all three campaigns.

The second track would be Legendary Guardian, which is the same thing for Hard Mode.

This would then put the guardian track into line with all the other Legendary Title Tracks in that completing an objective in all 3 campaigns awards the Legendary Title for that objective, eg, Legendary Skill Hunter, Legendary Vanquisher, Legendary Cartographer.

[Morkai]

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Yeah i found it wierd we got no Legendary Protector..

I want this!

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Destro Maniak

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I really think this should be done cause (itll make us get 1 more max title ) HM and NM titles shoudlnt be in same track

mystical nessAL

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DDrk

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It's an really easy title to get(legendary protector). No point in adding more easier ways to get KoaBD.

Artorius.Maximus

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Don't really care about the easier for KoABD (as everyone seems to now be looking for "My Guild Hall Smells of Rich Mahogany" or "A God Among Mere Mortals") but it is wierd to have NM and HM combined. I also wonder why beating the Great Destroyer ("A Time for Heroes") is not included in that track as well. Although since they put all of the eye of the north primary quests (missions) into the master of the north track, it kind of makes sense.

Steboy93

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One more max title for me yay.

Div

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anon-e-mouse
Let me start off by saying this is not about having a easier time of maxing KoaBD.
Yes it is. You basically get one free title.

Onarik Amrak

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I thought it was odd when I first saw it. So, sure why not?

chowmein69

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there sould be a title for NM missions and HM Missions.

Mortal Amongst Mere Gods

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/signed for the lack of logic having all Protector and Guardian into one "Legendary" title, and for a little more help with KoBD.

Unfortunately, though, with the release of "Party Animal" title, some think that Anet might add a r7 KoBD.

MithranArkanere

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At least the Title should have two tracks, the first one by making 3 Guardian/Protectors and the second by making all 6.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortal Amongst Mere Gods
/signed for the lack of logic having all Protector and Guardian into one "Legendary" title, and for a little more help with KoBD.

Unfortunately, though, with the release of "Party Animal" title, some think that Anet might add a r7 KoBD.
With all the people attempting to get this title planning it through, it would seriously discourage people to continue. Most people want to be able to "complete" GW before GW2 and with a 7th tier that basically becomes very impossible or only possible for a very very few people.

Also /signed so that the people without Survivor title can get r6 easily without having to resort the grind fest titles such as saviours wisdome and treasure hunter

Anon-e-mouse

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Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Yes it is. You basically get one free title.
And? In the great scheme of things, it's only marginally useful. Title Doesn't count for favour, doesn't award a trophy in HoM, and is basically a vanity reward for doing all the missions + bonuses in the game in normal mode.

Personally I don't care if it's brought in or not (I'd rather they fixed my Destructions Depths bug first). But I can see it would be of small benefit for secondary characters, most of which are not even going to be grinding for IVI (let alone GWAMM).

I'd love to see a title track for Normal Mode Vanquishing to.. but I know that just isn't going to happen.

MagmaRed

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Protector is completing all missions+bonus in the game. Guardian is completing all mission+bonus in the game, but in hard mode. The titles are the same. You do EXACTLY the same thing to acquire them, just in different modes. There is no reason to supply a 2nd title for doing the same thing you already do. I would like an easy way to acquire a max title, but this just seems stupid. The ONLY reason you would do this is to acquire a max title.

Destro Maniak

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
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Protector is completing all missions+bonus in the game. Guardian is completing all mission+bonus in the game, but in hard mode. The titles are the same. You do EXACTLY the same thing to acquire them, just in different modes. There is no reason to supply a 2nd title for doing the same thing you already do. I would like an easy way to acquire a max title, but this just seems stupid. The ONLY reason you would do this is to acquire a max title.
But Hm missions are hard and HM ascalon area is pain

Zahr Dalsk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Destro Maniak
But Hm missions are hard and HM ascalon area is pain
Use decent builds for HM in general, and for Ascalon get your Vanguard rank up.

MagmaRed

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Destro Maniak
But Hm missions are hard and HM ascalon area is pain
Hard Mode missions are.... what? Hard? Gee, maybe that is why its called HARD MODE. If you are saying they should give another title out (Legendary Protector) because the HARD MODE version is hard, you fail. There is already a title given for doing the Hard Mode missions. And simply making a title because it is hard, does not make sense. If that were the case, anyone can claim any title is hard, and get a new title for it (maxed even).

For instance, someone may think skill capping in Tyria is hard. So in addition to Tyrian Elite Skill Hunter, they should get a Legendary Tyrian Elite Skill Hunter title, because it was hard.

Was there a point to saying it is hard? If so, I failed to see it, maybe you could explain.

Navaros

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Hmm, so all LG's instantly get another maxed title? Seeing as I have LG, sounds good to me.

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Reflect

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2 completely different titles....
and removeing the else neded grind of lucky/unlucky/treasure hunt/wisdom/saviour to r6 koabd for non-survivors
+r7 koabd plz!

MirkoTeran

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/notsigned. We have enough of free titles. No need to add more until they add KoaBD r7.

Uber Mass

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retired from gw [agro] still ftw

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/notsigned got enough titles allready

(tho a quest title would still be nice)

Div

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Dead Alley [dR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anon-e-mouse
And? In the great scheme of things, it's only marginally useful. Title Doesn't count for favour, doesn't award a trophy in HoM, and is basically a vanity reward for doing all the missions + bonuses in the game in normal mode.

Personally I don't care if it's brought in or not (I'd rather they fixed my Destructions Depths bug first). But I can see it would be of small benefit for secondary characters, most of which are not even going to be grinding for IVI (let alone GWAMM).

I'd love to see a title track for Normal Mode Vanquishing to.. but I know that just isn't going to happen.
I'm just pointing out that your first sentence is completely wrong. That is all.

Calaval

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uber Mass
/notsigned got enough titles allready

(tho a quest title would still be nice)
I'd love to see a complete all quests title too.

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raven214

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We already have Legendary Cartographer, Skill Hunter, Guardian, and Vanquisher, so for continuities' sake, why not add it for Protector? Also, from my perspective, I have little interest in going for Guardian anytime soon (or at least I know I won't be getting it anytime soon), but would still like to show that I have done all 3 Protectors rather than just one continent's.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mystical nessAL
It's an really easy title to get(legendary protector). No point in adding more easier ways to get KoaBD
Actually, I think double-clicking booze/candy/party stuff, rinse, repeat is even easier, yet I don't mind those titles. And what if the point isn't for getting KoaBD? Just doing protector/cartographer for the 3 continents gets you KoaBD+1, so why not add the logical Legendary Protector title?

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Originally Posted by holymasamune
You basically get one free title.
How? I mean, sure you get one free if you've already done protector/guardian, but as a new character you certainly aren't handed protector... and if you have already done that much, why would you care?

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed
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There is no reason to supply a 2nd title for doing the same thing you already do. I would like an easy way to acquire a max title, but this just seems stupid. The ONLY reason you would do this is to acquire a max title.
Umm, again.. continuities' sake with Cartographer, Skill Hunter, Guardian, and Vanquisher is not, in itself, for the reason of acquiring a max title.

Solas

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only if HM and NM was one title track and would be maxed at all 6 done, rank 1 would be the 3 Nm done.

Matt_Night

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I'd rather have quests title as well, since I'm I'm gonna be 1 title short to R6 KoaBD, and I'm not gonna FFF for 3 months, but since it's never gonna happen and maybe, just maybe there's some chance for that title i'm signing up for that.

/signed

Richardt

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Legendary Protector certainly make sense in the grand scheme of Title naming.

And for people saying it's a free title....well, so is Holy Lightbringer and Legendary Spearmarshal, plus the 4 reputation titles, but I don't hear anyone complaining about that. The addition of this title is to only make the Title system a little more consistant with Protector.

/signed

bono

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normal mode is to easier to have a legendary title. Legendary should mean something.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Destro Maniak
But Hm missions are hard and HM ascalon area is pain
Right, which is why it's called Hard Mode.

Jamster

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bono
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normal mode is to easier to have a legendary title. Legendary should mean something.
So you have to Map all three continents in Hard Mode?
Cap all elite skills in Hard Mode?

I'm neutral to the OP, as much as it would be nice to have, and vaguely prestigious, it's just another free title :/ I mean, for getting 6 titles, you end up getting 8? Is that fair to people who don't get those 6 specific title?

Tyla

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As long as it is:

R1 = Legendary Protector
R2 (max) = Legendary Guardian

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A lot of people say there are already enough free titles, but, the way the system is set up, the plain fact is that it doesn't make sense this way.

Legendary Cartographer
Legendary Skill Hunter
Legendary Gaurdian

A high percentage of Continent based titles that are shared between all three have this sort of thing. Adding this would make sense, when it comes down to it.

Horus

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meh, it's true i would get one more maxed title then, but still i think that protectors are dont just by doing each storyline, which means you only do Guardians actualy...

N E D M

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/signed, makes sense to me

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Quote:
Originally Posted by guardian of dragon temple
meh, it's true i would get one more maxed title then, but still i think that protectors are dont just by doing each storyline, which means you only do Guardians actualy...
This doesn't make any sense to me.

DarkGanni

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Others Got KOABD lvl6 without this and so can you, me and the rest of the players.

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hippo942

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signed i love this and wondering why there is one

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
only if HM and NM was one title track and would be maxed at all 6 done, rank 1 would be the 3 Nm done.
qft.
this would keep the number of maxable titles the same, while having the ability to display if you are protector or guardian.

Witchblade

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GUARDIAN = total of completing all campaigns in every ways, this is perfect as it is

Asking for a complete title as a reward for not completing something is ridiculous (since you still have to handle HM)

stop begging for titles changes and ways to get easy and free titles

drink booze, use rockets, eat sugar and open chests like everyone else

(feels like asking for a title just for reaching lvl 20 )