Recently tried to create a new character with "Homo Sapiens" name. ZONK! The word HOMO is considered to be OBSCENE and therefore cannot be used! While the HETERO is accepted. Same case with "gay" (not allowed) and "straight" (allowed)
My question to ANet is: why do you promote homophobia ?
HOMO=obscene, HETERO=ok?
N8mare
Kityn
You cannot be serious. It is obvious why certain words cannot be used. It so they cannot be abused.
A mummified one
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Originally Posted by N8mare
Recently tried to create a new character with "Homo Sapiens" name. ZONK! The word HOMO is considered to be OBSCENE and therefore cannot be used! While the HETERO is accepted. Same case with "gay" (not allowed) and "straight" (allowed)
My question to ANet is: why do you promote homophobia ? |
Meat Axe
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Originally Posted by A mummified one
some ppl in AN are just brainless... got used to it...
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A mummified one
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Originally Posted by Meat Axe
I think blocking the use of the word homo in character names is far from brainless. Unfortunately, there are a number of people in this world who would take advantage of the ability to be able to use such a seemingly harmless phrase to make a name that is entirely offensive to people of that sexual preference.
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CyberMesh0
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I think blocking the use of the word homo in character names is far from brainless. Unfortunately, there are a number of people in this world who would take advantage of the ability to be able to use such a seemingly harmless phrase to make a name that is entirely offensive to people of that sexual preference.
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[Morkai]
Maybe use a variant?
Homer Sapien for example
Hobo Sapien (For a tramp proffession)
Homer Sapien for example
Hobo Sapien (For a tramp proffession
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A mummified one
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Originally Posted by Berek
Maybe use a variant?
Homer Sapien for example Hobo Sapien (For a tramp proffession ) |
? anyway - treating "homo sapiens" (Homo: genus name + sapiens: wise, intelligent) character name as an "obscene" says pretty much about some ppl's intelectual potential.
netniwk
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Originally Posted by A mummified one
hah... an irony or a joke
? anyway - treating "homo sapiens" (Homo: genus name + sapiens: wise, intelligent) character name as an "obscene" says pretty much about some ppl's intelectual potential. |
Uber Mass
It has nothing to do with anet being Homophobic it has to do with idiots who use the word Homo in an offensive way.... Sometimes you have to draw a line and block a word even if the real meaning of the word isnt offensive at all.
seut
Welcome to the world of political correctness, where newspapers rename the plane which dropped the nuke on Hiroshima to "Enola Homosexual"..
Wildi
try Hetero Sapiens j/k
A mummified one
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Originally Posted by Uber Mass
It has nothing to do with anet being Homophobic it has to do with idiots who use the word Homo in an offensive way.... Sometimes you have to draw a line and block a word even if the real meaning of the word isnt offensive at all.
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Rushin Roulette
Thats the same with the word gay, it actually meant happy or joyous... but get enough tards together and add in a few modern slang menaings... and you get a word which is insulting.
As for gay being a blocked word and straight or hetro not being blocked....
If I called you "you stupid straight (or hetro)"... Id get a fastlane ticket into the current "WTF??? instults thread". However, if I were to call you gay (not that I ever do... thats just childish crap), then you might get insulted... many people do.
I can see why Anet implemented that block... just try and find a way around the block (if the end name cant be mis-interpreted by 2celled organisms with easily triggered /report fingers, then you are fine)
As for gay being a blocked word and straight or hetro not being blocked....
If I called you "you stupid straight (or hetro)"... Id get a fastlane ticket into the current "WTF??? instults thread". However, if I were to call you gay (not that I ever do... thats just childish crap), then you might get insulted... many people do.
I can see why Anet implemented that block... just try and find a way around the block (if the end name cant be mis-interpreted by 2celled organisms with easily triggered /report fingers, then you are fine)
Tatile
Well, at least you didn't try 'Homo Erectus'.
It's there for the prevention of abuse, probably due to the hands-off approach to moderating, leaving everything to filters. I'm sure there are many words that have perfectly reasonable definitions and uses that are blocked (niggardly* comes to mind).
*tempting fate Q.Q
Defintion search it please.
Edit: I'm very surprised that word isn't in the filter here.
It's there for the prevention of abuse, probably due to the hands-off approach to moderating, leaving everything to filters. I'm sure there are many words that have perfectly reasonable definitions and uses that are blocked (niggardly* comes to mind).
*tempting fate Q.Q
Defintion search it please.
Edit: I'm very surprised that word isn't in the filter here.
Avarre
Until there are actual in-game mods, blanket restrictions have to be used to keep control. Sometimes those overlap onto what you'd not find offensive.
How do I feel about this? Well...
How do I feel about this? Well...
ensoriki
You'd get reported for Hobo Sapien, I can tell from a mile away
Some idiot: He's insulting the human race, thats offensive *cuts wrists* WAAAAH /report.
Some idiot: He's insulting the human race, thats offensive *cuts wrists* WAAAAH /report.
Divinus Stella
Its the same with Hitler, aside from being the name of the most famous man in history its a genuine surname.
I dont really want to use it in any character names, but i think its over PC of them to block the name of past political leader, its a bit like stopping people from having Seselj in a character name just because of the Yugoslavian war crimes.
I dont really want to use it in any character names, but i think its over PC of them to block the name of past political leader, its a bit like stopping people from having Seselj in a character name just because of the Yugoslavian war crimes.
[Morkai]
But yet H I T L E R is a real character name...
If you're really bothered Op, try H O M O Sapien
If you're really bothered Op, try H O M O Sapien
street peddler
because nobody is going to make a character named "i hate heteros"
hadin gar kain
Wow, i would love to make a char with the name, I Am A Homo, or Homo Slayer.
Anet, please allow me to make gay chars from now on.
would work great with a paragon!
(sarcasm)
Anet, please allow me to make gay chars from now on.
would work great with a paragon!
(sarcasm)
Divinus Stella
If people are out there purely to grief then there isnt much any automated filter can do, you cant just resrict everything.
One of the gripes i do have about the name system is the fact you cant use numbers and are forced to have 2 words minimum on western servers, but korean players have access to our servers also and they can waltz around with names like "卍卍장1234장56시109행66간22행복한다량기차┃━┃┃シ".
One of the gripes i do have about the name system is the fact you cant use numbers and are forced to have 2 words minimum on western servers, but korean players have access to our servers also and they can waltz around with names like "卍卍장1234장56시109행66간22행복한다량기차┃━┃┃シ".
A mummified one
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Wow, i would love to make a char with the name, I Am A Homo, or Homo Slayer.
Anet, please allow me to make gay chars from now on. would work great with a paragon! (sarcasm) |
or Nuke The UK ? Every single word can be used in an offensive phrase and there's no reason for implementing censorship since we've got /report.
makosi
I can't make a name with 'jewel' in it because it contains 'Jew'. Does that make ANet anti-semitic?
'Homo' is subject to abuse and slander and it doesn't bother me that it has been blocked.
'Homo' is subject to abuse and slander and it doesn't bother me that it has been blocked.
Kattar
As previously mentioned, since there are no GM's this is the only way to combat things like this. Granted it's not the best approach, but still. And we all know that /report isn't that great. It certainly wouldn't keep Anet from getting sued.
Ouchie
IMHO
They are simply doing their best to keep out words that may cause a problem. Lets face it Ass can't be used yet it means donkey. Nobody suggests Anet hates Donkeys though, Hummmmmm maybe it is all about the Asses.
They are simply doing their best to keep out words that may cause a problem. Lets face it Ass can't be used yet it means donkey. Nobody suggests Anet hates Donkeys though, Hummmmmm maybe it is all about the Asses.
Rocky Raccoon
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Originally Posted by N8mare
Recently tried to create a new character with "Homo Sapiens" name. ZONK! The word HOMO is considered to be OBSCENE and therefore cannot be used! While the HETERO is accepted. Same case with "gay" (not allowed) and "straight" (allowed)
My question to ANet is: why do you promote homophobia ? |
Bryant Again
It's not ANet being homophobic, it's ANet being smart. If you can't see why they would block such a word, then you're being incredibly naive.
Antheus
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My question to ANet is: why do you promote homophobia ? |
It has evolved in popular media, but is completely wrong, and was bastardized as a derogatory label.
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Go to UK, walk into a pub, preferably one near a football stadium, and say: Nuke the UK. It's fun, try it.
Internet needs /punchintheface. And people will learn common sense ASAP.
rayd
it shouldn't be ofensive except for overreacting people... but you know, some people are stupid, so Anet censured it
aapo
How can you use the word "homo" is offensive manner? For example if someone says "you stupid homo", the offensive word here is the adjective "stupid", not the noun "homo". Unless we of course have negative feelings about homosexuality, but isn't that textbook example of sexual discrimination?
Anyone who denies and ignores the existance of homos and forbids talking about them is by definition sexually discriminative.
Anyone who denies and ignores the existance of homos and forbids talking about them is by definition sexually discriminative.
Jake_Steel
Try creating these names:
James Earl Ray
John Hinckley Jr
Lee Harvey Oswald
or perhaps: John Wilkes Booth
James Earl Ray
John Hinckley Jr
Lee Harvey Oswald
or perhaps: John Wilkes Booth
Esan
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Homophobia means "fear of humans" or "fear of man".
It has evolved in popular media, but is completely wrong, and was bastardized as a derogatory label. |
To be even more pedantic, homo- as a prefix does not mean 'human', as you suggest, but means 'same', dating to the Proto-Indo-European root samos (from which we get PDE 'same'). In fact, there is no PDE word with a 'homo-' prefix where 'homo' stands for 'human'.
The Latin genitive third homō, meaning human, is a noun, not an English prefix.
Bryant Again
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Anyone who denies and ignores the existance of homos and forbids talking about them is by definition sexually discriminative.
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Lord High Pwner
O.k i can se the ban on homo. I dont support nor do i support any censorship but i have an even better name thats blocked.
I made a monk 3 years ago named June Cleaver. so naturally i was going to stick with leave it to beaver i had it all planned out. Necro named Eddie Haskel, Monk named lumpy, and of course some char Named Beaver Cleaver. To my distain Beaver is considered a no go as well. come on beaver i havnt heard that bdy part called beaver in at least 15 years but oh well.
I made a monk 3 years ago named June Cleaver. so naturally i was going to stick with leave it to beaver i had it all planned out. Necro named Eddie Haskel, Monk named lumpy, and of course some char Named Beaver Cleaver. To my distain Beaver is considered a no go as well. come on beaver i havnt heard that bdy part called beaver in at least 15 years but oh well.
Meat Axe
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Originally Posted by rayd
it shouldn't be ofensive except for overreacting people... but you know, some people are stupid, so Anet censured it
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Homosexuals have been persecuted a lot throughout history. They still do get persecuted. And why? Because they're different, and I think people are scared of that. They are confronted by a lot more terrifying scenarios than most people. For instance, I can't really think of anything that would be more terrifying than coming out to my parents, and not knowing whether they'd accept it, or whether they would disown me and never speak to me again. Homosexual people have to go through that every day. I don't think they're overreacting when they get offended.
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Originally Posted by aapo
How can you use the word "homo" is offensive manner? For example if someone says "you stupid homo", the offensive word here is the adjective "stupid", not the noun "homo". Unless we of course have negative feelings about homosexuality, but isn't that textbook example of sexual discrimination?
Anyone who denies and ignores the existance of homos and forbids talking about them is by definition sexually discriminative. |
A more obvious one, and more widely used, is to simply call someone gay, intended as an insult. It may or may not be true, but using the term as an insult, as something that is supposed to upset someone, is using it in a negative context, and could be offensive. It should only be offensive to people who actually have a problem with the concept of liking a member of the same sex, but unfortunately, many members of the human race seem to be conditioned to react negatively to being called similar, even if they are not homophobic at all.
Tyla
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I can think of a few ways of using the word "homo" in an offensive manner. For example, a lot of teenagers use the word "gay" or "homo" as a substitute for another offensive term, such as "idiot". To use it in such a way implies that all gay people are stupid, or have a mental disability.
A more obvious one, and more widely used, is to simply call someone gay, intended as an insult. |
Using a word of sexuality as negativity is stupid, and should be stopped.
Just another form of stupidity and discrimination in the world.
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Internet needs /punchintheface. And people will learn common sense ASAP.
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In the end people discriminating should be wiped off the face of the earth. All it does is cause war and sadness.
Lord Sojar
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Originally Posted by Divinus Stella
If people are out there purely to grief then there isnt much any automated filter can do, you cant just resrict everything.
One of the gripes i do have about the name system is the fact you cant use numbers and are forced to have 2 words minimum on western servers, but korean players have access to our servers also and they can waltz around with names like "卍卍장1234장56시109행66간22행복한다량기차┃━┃┃シ". |
puffzilla
I think Anet should change the warning on band names. Sorry this name is already being used. lol
