I have been running a Leadership / spear mastery build I have only a couple points left. I am wondering if I am better off with a max shield (using less then 9 req) or an off hand caster item for energy (although I really don’t need the energy) or a noob shield of lesser protection that I can meet the requirement.
Your thoughts ?
Questions on off hands for a leadership para
Painbringer
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Just run 12 Spear/9 Leadership/9 Tactics or Command.
Lishy
I use shields but sometimes I like using a focus, but that is just me :P
Racthoh
How do you use a lot of energy when your profession has a primary that gives you energy, and you have adrenaline skills?
Marverick
req 7 AL15 shields, run a 12/11/6 split
alternatively, just don't bother with other attributes, +8 armor is enough for a naturally high armored class unless you're running SY!
alternatively, just don't bother with other attributes, +8 armor is enough for a naturally high armored class unless you're running SY!
Ajank3r
Just run a less than max shield that is much easier to get and you'll still have 88 armor vs. any attack.
Tyla
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req 7 AL15 shields, run a 12/11/6 split
Agreed - from what i know they are 10-20k if you're not bothered about the skin.
Diddy bow
Max Shields, but an energy swap is nice for pvp 
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Lishy
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
How do you use a lot of energy when your profession has a primary that gives you energy, and you have adrenaline skills?
Spears,ursan,echo's,etc.
Shaz
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
Spears,ursan,echo's,etc.
^ lol what?
12/11/6 split is best if you can find req 7 AL15 shield. Or just use a max shield that you don't meet the requirement, +8AL is better then the +useless energy that you shouldn't need. Just have a +15e or +20e staff on another set for emergency.
12/11/6 split is best if you can find req 7 AL15 shield. Or just use a max shield that you don't meet the requirement, +8AL is better then the +useless energy that you shouldn't need. Just have a +15e or +20e staff on another set for emergency.
Racthoh
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Although I will say that a paragon Ursan is the worst possible build for a gon to run.
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echo's
The above two inscriptions if you don't know how to mash adrenaline shouts/chants as they fill.
Div
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
How do you use a lot of energy when your profession has a primary that gives you energy, and you have adrenaline skills?
The same way wammos run out of energy. Except, you'd have to be even worse since at least the warrior has an excuse of not having an infinite-energy-giving primary att.
Redvex
I've 10+1+1 spear mastery
10+2 leadership 8+1 command
Shuriken
get an +5 energy shield from the collecter in ascalon somewhere. Runic shield from a colelcter that gives +5 erergy
Lishy
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The same way wammos run out of energy. Except, you'd have to be even worse since at least the warrior has an excuse of not having an infinite-energy-giving primary att.
Well excuuse me,princess.
Why is everyone flaming me because I like a lot of energy management?Why do people have to be nazis over someone who prefers to have 40 energy?o-o I simply find it more convenient. Think about it: Aggresive refrain uses 25 energy Focused anger uses 10 You already used up 35 energy and you still don't have enough energy to apply tintf, so you need to quickly build up adrenaline by using spear of fury which costs 5 energy to use sy or other adrenaline shouts to quickly regain your energy to use tintf. Understand now my strategy? Due to monster ai,Paragons don't get attacked much in pve anyways :P
Pyro maniac
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
Well excuuse me,princess.
Why is everyone flaming me because I like a lot of energy management?Why do people have to be nazis over someone who prefers to have 40 energy?o-o I simply find it more convenient. Think about it: Aggresive refrain uses 25 energy Focused anger uses 10 You already used up 35 energy and you still don't have enough energy to apply tintf, so you need to quickly build up adrenaline by using spear of fury which costs 5 energy to use sy or other adrenaline shouts to quickly regain your energy to use tintf. Understand now my strategy? Due to monster ai,Paragons don't get attacked much in pve anyways :P paragon's have broken energy management, that's like saying I need more energy on my pre-nerf SR necro.
Shaz
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
Well excuuse me,princess.
Why is everyone flaming me because I like a lot of energy management?Why do people have to be nazis over someone who prefers to have 40 energy?o-o I simply find it more convenient. Think about it: Aggresive refrain uses 25 energy Focused anger uses 10 You already used up 35 energy and you still don't have enough energy to apply tintf, so you need to quickly build up adrenaline by using spear of fury which costs 5 energy to use sy or other adrenaline shouts to quickly regain your energy to use tintf. Understand now my strategy? Due to monster ai,Paragons don't get attacked much in pve anyways :P You can do whatever you want, we're just stating what is best to do, if you want to continue to be bad and not taking all the advantage that you can, go ahead. And no, I don't understand your strategy, why aren't you upkeep AR and put it up pre-fight? Maybe then you wouldn't have energy problem.
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
Well excuuse me,princess.
Why is everyone flaming me because I like a lot of energy management?Why do people have to be nazis over someone who prefers to have 40 energy?o-o I simply find it more convenient. Think about it: Aggresive refrain uses 25 energy Focused anger uses 10 You already used up 35 energy and you still don't have enough energy to apply tintf, so you need to quickly build up adrenaline by using spear of fury which costs 5 energy to use sy or other adrenaline shouts to quickly regain your energy to use tintf. Understand now my strategy? Due to monster ai,Paragons don't get attacked much in pve anyways :P You put Aggressive Refrain up as soon as you zone, not when you aggro. Even when I do I follow it up with For Great Justice!; I don't need SY and TNTF when my monks still have full energy at the start of the fight. I can wait 5~ seconds to build SY. Tyla
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
Well excuuse me,princess.
Why is everyone flaming me because I like a lot of energy management?Why do people have to be nazis over someone who prefers to have 40 energy?o-o I simply find it more convenient. Think about it: Aggresive refrain uses 25 energy Focused anger uses 10 You already used up 35 energy and you still don't have enough energy to apply tintf, so you need to quickly build up adrenaline by using spear of fury which costs 5 energy to use sy or other adrenaline shouts to quickly regain your energy to use tintf. Understand now my strategy? Due to monster ai,Paragons don't get attacked much in pve anyways :P Okay, Link. Here's the drill - You zone. You use AR. You upkeep it with something. (preferably Anthem of Flame)
Div
How convenient, everyone's already answered for me. If you have to recast AR more than once, you're horrible, so I never include it in energy costs.
Lishy
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
You put Aggressive Refrain up as soon as you zone, not when you aggro. Even when I do I follow it up with For Great Justice!; I don't need SY and TNTF when my monks still have full energy at the start of the fight. I can wait 5~ seconds to build SY.
Thats common sense.
However, there are times when you are fighting a mob as soon as you zone, smartass Seriously, don't be a build nazi. You guys are making a big deal over someone who likes to use scrolls and your going waaaay off topic In fact, I will just stop posting in this thread because this is going no were and I can laugh at how far your going just for the sake of argument.
Racthoh
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FoW, and rarely (back up!). And if you're dying at the very first groups in FoW I'm not sure what to say. If there are any other zones like that they aren't popping into my head probably because it's the first mob of the zone and if I ever did wipe I just rezone to lose the DP. It's common sense to restart.
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In fact, I will just stop posting in this thread because this is going no were and I can laugh at how far your going just for the sake of argument.
Your argument is that you'd rather gimp your attributes than use all of the weapon sets offered to you. That you're too lazy to maintain Aggressive Refrain between mobs. That's not advice I'd want others to read and to think is the best way to use the paragon profession.
Div
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Why is everyone flaming me because I like a lot of energy management?Why do people have to be nazis over someone who prefers to have 40 energy?
Oh, forgot to point this out, but if you see someone that says having more energy = energy management, you can easily tell he doesn't know what he's talking about. Just for future reference for any viewers of this thread
I might consider a "high set" somewhere in inventory on a paragon if you have extra space just for emergency cases where if you somehow load into a zone against a lot of monsters your monks can't handle (failure monks?) but there's no reason to have a focus for your primary off hand.
angmar_nite
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Seriously, don't be a build nazi.
What build are they being nazi's about?
John Panda
i think you need to relearn how to play this class from what you've said so far it seems like you don't understand what proper skills to put on your bar.
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