I noticed that the top 100 is littered with the same players who keep getting high times, shouldent there best time just be posted in the top 100 times and not just because they got another time which is a tad slower, to give a chance for someone else to be in the top 100?
Pol
Rollerbeetle Racing: Same winners in top 100?
Polgara Val
Ajank3r
I agree, however seeing as the top 100 get a prize you have to factor that in, this may just be Anet overlooking a detail and in that case it will be fixed with a quick patch or they put it in there for a reason ^^
Draikin
Unfortunately it won't be fixed, I asked Gaile about this on the GW wiki:
In my opinion the dishonorable hex actually makes things even worse, since top players that have multiple accounts can easily switch between them when they get dishonored, giving them even more chance at getting multiple rewards. At the moment one particular player already has more than 25 of the top 100 times...
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I understand your concerns, and I do recall the issues last year. One thing I should clarify is that, as far as I know, no one received more than one Miniature Rollerbeetle. I do appreciate the concern that, if someone held three places in the top 100, 2 others were not "bumped up" on the list to get the reward.
Since last year, changes to Guild Wars may help address the problem of one person capturing multiple top 100 placements. Because remember, we recently added the Dishonorable Combatant System that "awards" dishonor points to those who don't play fairly. So this year, if someone tries to "play the system" with frequent quit-outs (which we saw last year) he or she will reap dishonor points. Those points will result in a time out from the races, meaning those who try the quit-out work-around will have less time to compete and fewer hours to achieve high placement. I must admit that having the system run account-based rather than character-based would be real nice, but we were not able to make that change. Let's give the whole experience a review after the event to see if the DCS helps make Rollerbeetle Racing more fun and more lucrative for a larger number of players. Thanks for letting me know about your concerns. |
Feathermoore Rep
Wait wait. So they didn't change it to allow only 1 Best time on the Top 100???
Ajank3r
Ahh that is to bad, posted a similar opinion in another thread.
Thanks a bunch for the quote, nice to have some reliable information where you need it o.O
Thanks a bunch for the quote, nice to have some reliable information where you need it o.O
VitisVinifera
I see there's no point in me doing roller beetle races, good to know that on the outset, I'll spend that time collecting ingredients so that all may benefit
edit: sync racing probably eh?
edit: sync racing probably eh?
NoXiFy
Yea... heres at least 2 guys with like 7 spots each... its bumped from 448,000 to get on high score list... to 467,00 -_-
captain_carter
I thought they stated last year that the 100 prizes would go to the 100 accounts with the top times, so having half of the top scores would only get you one prize, and not being on the list did not mean you didn't get one either.
Whether this was the case or not I don't know, the top 100 display has always been this way to my knowledge.
Do we even know whether there is going to be a prize for the top 100 this new year?
Whether this was the case or not I don't know, the top 100 display has always been this way to my knowledge.
Do we even know whether there is going to be a prize for the top 100 this new year?
Polgara Val
There will be something given to the top 100 times although nobody knows what that is yet.
Pol
Pol
The Legg
the dishonarable hex is fine in attempting to curb people resigning mid race when they know they wont win with a top 100 time, but seriously why give dishonor points for resigning out when the race has FINISHED?
Many people do this to save 10-20 secs each race and over the weekend this adds up for gamer point farming
Many people do this to save 10-20 secs each race and over the weekend this adds up for gamer point farming
BuD
So they will be giving out like 7 mini pets.... lol
Numa Pompilius
There were a couple guys with dial-up complaining that they got dishonor because it took too long for them to enter the game.
Sync racing? Yeah, I can see how bigger guilds could do something like that, and to get on the highscore you don't want to have any knockdowns.
Sync racing? Yeah, I can see how bigger guilds could do something like that, and to get on the highscore you don't want to have any knockdowns.
Sent
Same 2 guys have like 1/3 of the ladder
Navaros
They should just give a mini rollerbeetle to every single player who participates in rollerbeetle racing. Easy solution, everyone's happy (other than a few complaining about about their mini no longer being worth a ludicrous amount of Ectos, but oh well, can't please everyone so it's okay if they lose out on that.)
Charr
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Same 2 guys have like 1/3 of the ladder
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IMO it should be that one account can have maximum of one score on the ladder.
Ekelon
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I thought they stated last year that the 100 prizes would go to the 100 accounts with the top times, so having half of the top scores would only get you one prize, and not being on the list did not mean you didn't get one either.
Whether this was the case or not I don't know, the top 100 display has always been this way to my knowledge. Do we even know whether there is going to be a prize for the top 100 this new year? |
Polgara Val
Assuming of course that there minipet prizes...
Lykan
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The problem we do have though is that if no one else gets 'bumped' up into the top 100 it leaves about 70 potential 'prizes' that will not be given out to other players.
Anet doesnt think there is anything wrong with that??
Why cant they just give prizes to the top 100 hundred accounts in the list, is it that hard?
Polgara Val
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Originally Posted by Lykan
So lets theoretically say that we have 3 players who at the end of the weekend have 25 top 100 places each, equalling 75 in total. We know they wont get 25 'prizes' each, thats ok.
The problem we do have though is that if no one else gets 'bumped' up into the top 100 it leaves about 70 potentiel 'prizes' that will not be given out to other players. No one sees a problem here?? |
Pol
Lady Yuna
Rollbeetle: The Game for THE lifeless.
roflcopter ownage
It is a little unfair that one person can take up several spots. Having each character only have 1 slot makes sense. I perfer having the top score over a bunch of scores though.
And about the dishonor, why should you get dishonor points for resinging when there are no teamates you are ruining the game for (like in ra). It does slow down high scores, but mainly its just annoying.
And about the dishonor, why should you get dishonor points for resinging when there are no teamates you are ruining the game for (like in ra). It does slow down high scores, but mainly its just annoying.
Martin Alvito
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And about the dishonor, why should you get dishonor points for resinging when there are no teamates you are ruining the game for (like in ra). It does slow down high scores, but mainly its just annoying.
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WTB new match PST.
I understand ANet's intentions, but the failure to comprehend that the "/resign and new match" method isn't the only way to post a top score will lead to far fewer players getting a spot in the high scores this time around.
Lykan
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Originally Posted by roflcopter ownage
It is a little unfair that one person can take up several spots.
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Another great ANET failure.
tw1tchdp
man i have been workin so damn hard to get on here at all... havn't even gotten close and when i do theres always a kid who will KD you.
NoXiFy
Yay for one guy having 45 spots on the high-scores list! Thanks Anet!
Shayne Hawke
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I understand ANet's intentions, but the failure to comprehend that the "/resign and new match" method isn't the only way to post a top score will lead to far fewer players getting a spot in the high scores this time around.
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nidy
Just out of curiosity, how many people have raced with this guy?
Martin Alvito
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Originally Posted by Navaros
They should just give a mini rollerbeetle to every single player who participates in rollerbeetle racing. Easy solution, everyone's happy (other than a few complaining about about their mini no longer being worth a ludicrous amount of Ectos, but oh well, can't please everyone so it's okay if they lose out on that.)
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Rarity matters. The mini Aatxe is one of the best miniatures they've ever released, but you rarely see it in districts because other "rarer" miniatures are more desirable to have on display.
Ajank3r
Apparently it is to much of a hassle considering all of the other little things that people are complainging/pointing about/out =(
Hailfall
you know i wonder how someone can even get that high of a score without cheating or botting..
You'd have to get a superrollbeetle everytime to even make that.. and thats a one in a million lucky chance.. ?
You'd have to get a superrollbeetle everytime to even make that.. and thats a one in a million lucky chance.. ?
Lain Akazukin
It's not that hard actually, you just gotta know how to keep up your RRPM at all times and then just race and race until you get a lucky early echo/SRB and score 480k+. I just got 479.5k this way and it wasn't even a perfect race. I think 485k is possible even.
Elnai
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Just out of curiosity, how many people have raced with this guy?
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roflcopter ownage
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My guess is about 5-10. 5 people that sync with them, the remainder are those that sometime get into the race. I've been in a few matches with 3 people being in the same guild and those turned out just grand...
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Polgara Val
Just to clarify will the people who we cant see under the top 100 be pushed into the top 100 to get that "prize"? (since half the top 100 is dominated by 2-4 people)
Pol
Pol
The Real Avalon
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Just to clarify will the people who we cant see under the top 100 be pushed into the top 100 to get that "prize"? (since half the top 100 is dominated by 2-4 people)
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if 1 guy has all scores, 1 beetle will be rewarded
Polgara Val
You serious?
Then the whole rollerbeetle thing is a joke, i dont see why they cant just take the top score of that person only and put them in the top 100 instead of having about 40 times from the same person..the races loses its value, well done anet smart move there.
Then the whole rollerbeetle thing is a joke, i dont see why they cant just take the top score of that person only and put them in the top 100 instead of having about 40 times from the same person..the races loses its value, well done anet smart move there.
Ajank3r
They didn't neccesarily do this on purpose, they are probably just standing by their decision...
If they were going to change this then they would most likely have changed it WAY back before the public racing even started, they DO go through and test these ini-games you know.
Hope this contributed ^^
If they were going to change this then they would most likely have changed it WAY back before the public racing even started, they DO go through and test these ini-games you know.
Hope this contributed ^^
Polgara Val
Thats the problem mate, this did happen last year as well so in essence they fixed nothing
only thing they adjusted was the boxes cant be sat upon for 30 min waiting for a superroller beetle
only thing they adjusted was the boxes cant be sat upon for 30 min waiting for a superroller beetle
CyberNigma
You people shouldn't be surprised by this. ArenaNet I think has some of the best artists in the industry (when they aren't lazy like the ice crown incident). However, when it comes to actually applying common sense or any decent logic, they barely rate over the average idiot. They literally can't seem to think for themselves. That's why almost everything they touch outside the beauty of the game fails. They come up with nice things and neat ideas, but their implementation almost always fails. We see threads about this type of stuff all the time. I have a feeling this is what happens when you start a company and make a game centered around the artists. They really can't think of the ramifications of the choices they make.
I have a feeling we'll see another one with all the complaining about the pig collector. Maybe they end up changing something to allow everyone a celestial pig. However, that will only be a slap in the face for the people that decided they really wanted the pig and decided to buy the really inflated mini pigs from last year (me not being one of them).
They just don't think about things and they never really have. It's something that just has to be accepted if you continue to play the game(s) that ArenaNet makes. I intend to keep playing and I realize of course that I do so at my own risk.
At least with the rollerbeetle races there will most likely be more than one or two people getting the minipet (unlike the polar bear :-)...
EDIT: The alternative is to play a subscription or non-dead game where there's an incentive of some sort (continued subscription or continued buying of expansions) to fix things.
I have a feeling we'll see another one with all the complaining about the pig collector. Maybe they end up changing something to allow everyone a celestial pig. However, that will only be a slap in the face for the people that decided they really wanted the pig and decided to buy the really inflated mini pigs from last year (me not being one of them).
They just don't think about things and they never really have. It's something that just has to be accepted if you continue to play the game(s) that ArenaNet makes. I intend to keep playing and I realize of course that I do so at my own risk.
At least with the rollerbeetle races there will most likely be more than one or two people getting the minipet (unlike the polar bear :-)...
EDIT: The alternative is to play a subscription or non-dead game where there's an incentive of some sort (continued subscription or continued buying of expansions) to fix things.
Madbull2
Wait, do we know that this is the case for sure? Because the wording of the reward keeper NPC is "the top 100 racers" not the top 100 scores will get the prize. So then shouldn't it be possible to get a beetle even if you aren't on the top 100 scores list, seeing as there are only about 37 people on that list. I'm not sure if it was this way or not last year (judging by the comments i'm guessing it wasn't) but maybe Anet changed this and we just don't know it yet.