Cheating/Exploit in Dragon's Nest?

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

I enjoy playing dragon's nest during the boardwalk weekends. It's a quick way to earn tokens, but now folks are starting to cheat and it's no fun anymore.

The top 2 names here never moved an inch. They stood together against the wall. The 3rd guy was running around playing normally. The scores were the same after round 1 as well, but i didn't get a screenshot then.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

i hope that was a once off bug

how often is it happening or is that the first you saw?

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wow, never seen that before. But it's not hard to find a district with an empty Dragon's Nest.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

sounds like they have there trade window open or some sort of trade "thing"

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by chessyang
sounds like they have there trade window open or some sort of trade "thing"
What brought you to that idea? And how is it related?

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
What brought you to that idea? And how is it related?
Because when you have no evidence and little logic best bet is to make @#$% up.

Nor

Nor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

none yet :X

Me/N

Yes i did saw a necro and a mesmer (just the 2 of them) running around very automatic getting all the worms (including red) i tried to pm them but didnt respond , they dont usually win all the time if there are players around but are very annoying.


its for real ppl are hacking around

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

some kind of "auto pickup" script i'm betting.

after all theres no difference from using it for this than to get drunkard.

its only harmless botting.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

But behavior that raven describes does not look like boting.

It looks like that they were able to retain their score inbetween matches, giving them automatic wins even if they just stand there.

Stoneys Rock

Stoneys Rock

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Wales, United Kingdom

Great Success [GS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
some kind of "auto pickup" script i'm betting.

after all theres no difference from using it for this than to get drunkard.

its only harmless botting.
no such thing :P botting is botting even if their in empty arenas their getting things they shouldn't.
as for auto pick up all they need is V and space bar. V is the auto locate nearest friendly npc.

I also guess people have found a place in the wall which won't teleport them after the game is complete, so they could be legit then screwing you over while afking cause you'd have no chance of getting 200+ points.

Darkhell153

Darkhell153

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

right behind you

Highlander Honor Guard [HHnr]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoneys Rock
no such thing :P botting is botting even if their in empty arenas their getting things they shouldn't.
as for auto pick up all they need is V and space bar. V is the auto locate nearest friendly npc.

I also guess people have found a place in the wall which won't teleport them after the game is complete, so they could be legit then screwing you over while afking cause you'd have no chance of getting 200+ points.
why do I have the sudden urge after reading this to go hunt down and report bots?

retro77

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

California

Destructions Minions

E/

Lets test it. Go to where they were standing and see if you get warped out.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Disconnect/reconnect bug/exploit?

keli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Budapest

E/

easy.. v+space just keep hitting

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by keli
easy.. v+space just keep hitting
c-space you mean.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
c-space you mean.
Not that I'm experienced in this at all, but doesn't v select nearest NPC? No enemies there, I believe.

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
c-space you mean.
No, he means v+space.

retro77

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

California

Destructions Minions

E/

v space FTW

I've been looking for the spot on the wall....not finding one. Want to tell us where they were standing?

Leonhart

Leonhart

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ascalon City

W/

I tried on an empty dragons nest area and I only managed to get 112 most :/ and I have a 25% boost, and maybe if I had 50% I may have gotten 130ish maybe. 230+ seems way too high :/ unless by some crazy chance that white drakes just kept spawning next to him over and over and he never had to run.

Shakkara

Shakkara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

230+ definately is too high for ROUND TWO!

There aren't even white wurms by then!

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

I'm not sure how they did it, but I think there is a "sweet spot" on the wall someplace that allows them to stay in the arena after each game and carry over their scores to the next game.

They weren't bots. They were chatting in local answering questions. They also did not just have incredible luck with V space. They were not playing at all. Just standing on the wall.

I didn't recall exactly where on the wall they were, but it was towards the back of the arena.

This is an old bug. I found a thread here from a year ago where the OP was complaining about the exact same thing. He didn't supply a screenshot though so none of the repliers believed him and the thread died. Hopefully Gaile or someone else will read this and the bug can be fixed before the next boardwalk.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

Of course it can't, because like the Rollerbeetle rankings, it's a piece of coding that would take actual time away from GW2 to fix and blah blah blah.

Stoneys Rock

Stoneys Rock

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Wales, United Kingdom

Great Success [GS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by genofreek
Of course it can't, because like the Rollerbeetle rankings, it's a piece of coding that would take actual time away from GW2 to fix and blah blah blah.
then explain away those extra kurzick base defenders in alliance battle. I mean this thing is gone for a long while now, till the dragon festival so I can't see why they can't just fix it.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoneys Rock
then explain away those extra kurzick base defenders in alliance battle. I mean this thing is gone for a long while now, till the dragon festival so I can't see why they can't just fix it.
PvP fixes >>> PvE fixes. Something can be breaking PvE in very minor way and will not get fixed for years unless someone in dev team gets is as busy work, but something of similar grade is priority fix if it is pvp.

Sad, but true.

Stoneys Rock

Stoneys Rock

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Wales, United Kingdom

Great Success [GS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
PvP fixes >>> PvE fixes. Something can be breaking PvE in very minor way and will not get fixed for years unless someone in dev team gets is as busy work, but something of similar grade is priority fix if it is pvp.

Sad, but true.
alot of faction farmers are PvE based. Alot of PVErs like alliance battles too. I'd say its a very mixed equation, away from the cut and dry pvp way you put it. Also I don't think you could call the enemy team getting into the base minor. =P

Side Forruner

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Spiffy Guild

A/Mo

I discovered the dragon nest glitch after seeing a bot accidentally do it, someone in my alliance is in the screen shot on page 1 with his 2 accounts. At the end of the last round you back up as far as you can and about 6 seconds later run at the guy who lets you into the dragon nest, it keeps you inside the game if you target him and press the space bar to run, not just normal running. I had to test it out to make sure I wouldn't make a fool of myself by reporting something that isn't really there. can anyone point me in the right direction to reporting this?

also can we get this moved to game bugs?

Andrew Patrick

Andrew Patrick

ArenaNet

Join Date: Aug 2006

Washington

Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

Mo/

Do you have any more info on this? We would like to track down what caused this, but we don't have enough information to replicate it at this time. Feel free to PM me if you prefer.

Thanks!

Side Forruner

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Spiffy Guild

A/Mo

ill go record myself doing it, only an hour left of the event =)

Brian Fellow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

[STAR]

Rt/

technically this is PvP. You are trying to beat others within a mini-game like beetle racing.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

And people repeatedly called me a cheat for using sugar rush!

I was chatting to a friend who fell victim to this, their opponent had a score over 300.

As a slight other bug, if your opponent(s) leave the arena before its finished, it denies you the points for beating them. I met a number who did this out of spite if you beat them after 3 rounds.

Side Forruner

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Spiffy Guild

A/Mo

i have the video, but because i uploaded with Google video they have to look it over to make sure its ok for the public. i will get it on here asap

EDIT: due to a problem with the last video i posted (it was missing the first part), the new one is posted below.

the actual glitch is in the first third of the movie, there was a problem when i shortened it last time so here is the whole thing.