How would YOU have handled this event?
If you could improve it, what would you have done differently?
-Mini Celestial Pig. Collector takes 3 Mini pigs. Not 5. Why? It seems more reasonable. At the current rate pigs are at 20-30kish, making the celestial pig 100k+. 3 mini pig requirement would have lowered the demand slightly, increased supply slightly and perhaps brought the prices down to a reasonable amount for casual players. I think 30k for a celestial pig seems reasonable.
-Mini Celestial Rat. I like that we are told HOW to get a rat this year ahead of time.
-Mask. I would have modified last year's Nian mask slightly...just enough to make it different (like the two pumpkin helms). Doesnt have to be remade from scratch.
-Finale Event. I never liked how this finale required items from all over the place. The reward was never good. I think....they should ahve made it so...if you helped with at least 1 dish, you get the finale box of fireworks. Leechers would still get the mask, leechers would get the bags, but only people with ingredients would get the explosives. Meaning 1 complete ingredients set. I would have also removed Smoking Remains from the list. That sucks to farm.
-Beetle racing. We need a new map. We need better rules. We need to make it harder to cheat. I dont know what i would do though.
How would you have handled the 2008 Canthan New Year event?
lyra_song
the kurzick eater
i agree with you 100% 
KingKryton
Beetle racing - Remove knockdowns and instead add spells that just slow you down for a period of time. Also removing 90 degree+ turns because the majority of us dont have a under 100 ping and any sharp corner instantly rubber bands you back a few seconds.
cellardweller
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How would YOU have handled this event?
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-Mini Celestial Rat. I like that we are told HOW to get a rat this year ahead of time.
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-Mask.
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-Finale Event.
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Rewards wise, I'm ok with letting people leech if they want - most of the "district sponsors" tended to go to the more barren zones anyway (eg Korea 2 for me), and it encouraged people to communicate and cooperate in the unsponsored districts. I think my only complaint is the megre rewards the person that actually donates the ingredients gets. I'd have liked to have seen a red bag given for each ingredient rather than a lunar token.
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Eldin
Un-nerf that Token farming exploit or make the quests/some new quests repeable.
PLEASE!!!
PLEASE!!!
Navaros
3 pigs is still no good, most people trashed or gave away their pigs because there was no indication to save them. Changing the number to 3 doesn't make it any more equitable for them.
They should have simply left the pigs alone, period.
Make the gift this year be the celestial pig for everyone in a district that has provided the ingredients. Leave the rat as is as a random drop from fortunes.
For the rollerbeetle scandal they should add an Observer mode so that the ~5 GW players who happen to be clued in about the most exploitative way possible to exploit the map aren't the only ones out of the hundreds of thousands of players who have any chance whatsoever to compete on an even playing field and win a prize.
Or, simply close the exploitative tactics via updates, so that an average joe playing the race normally has a chance to compete. That may be more work than adding Obs Mode functionality though, so they should do whichever is less work.
For the finale there should have been a new hat, and everlasting fireworks, and/or fireworks that give you 1000 Party Animal points per use.
They should have simply left the pigs alone, period.
Make the gift this year be the celestial pig for everyone in a district that has provided the ingredients. Leave the rat as is as a random drop from fortunes.
For the rollerbeetle scandal they should add an Observer mode so that the ~5 GW players who happen to be clued in about the most exploitative way possible to exploit the map aren't the only ones out of the hundreds of thousands of players who have any chance whatsoever to compete on an even playing field and win a prize.
Or, simply close the exploitative tactics via updates, so that an average joe playing the race normally has a chance to compete. That may be more work than adding Obs Mode functionality though, so they should do whichever is less work.
For the finale there should have been a new hat, and everlasting fireworks, and/or fireworks that give you 1000 Party Animal points per use.
IlikeGW
Stop making the game a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing lottery or farming fest, and give people something for playing. It's becoming a game only retards or 10-year-olds that don't know better will keep playing.
Ekelon
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-Beetle racing. We need a new map. We need better rules. We need to make it harder to cheat. I dont know what i would do though.
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cosyfiep
1 new hat....why a rehash of last years??? when they specifically said they would never repeat a hat. 
2 rat mini in finale---just like last year (this I would NOT have changed)....I see no problem with there being a plethera of minis---who gives a ratsass about the ecomony anet smashed the heck out of that a LOOOOOOONNNG time ago...to late to fix it now.
3 forget the mini pigs altogether---no need to give out another mini for naught.
4 yeah the ingredients....welll I got 17/22...so I would not have completed ANY of the dishes by my self (spent my time working on getting fortunes for the gd rat
...ok over that now)...people who gave say 10 of the ingredients should have gotten a better award---not all of the ingredients were asked for (but I noticed that he ALWAYS asked for the smoking remains---couldnt get those for the life of me)....and not people who gave the same one over and over (yeah you could do that for tokens 
...got rid of a bunch of naga hides that way). So maybe these people could have gotten a fireworks (though I have no idea what I will do with mine beside sell it---no guild hall)
5 NEW quests....with 16 characters (yeah did all the canthan ones with them all--only the survivors did the elonian one)....it only took me 30 minutes to complete all 5. Had it down to a science (glad I wasnt noticed they would have thought me a bot!)....yeah I know gw2 is taking all their time, but hey gw is still here---if you dont keep us happy there wont be a gw2!
6 NEW ingredients....maybe some of the useless things from eye????
7 rollerbeetle, no ideas here since I never play those kinds of things (not a very fast connection and the LAGGG).
8 deal with LAGG---had bunches of it yet again, you'd think after wintersday that they would have thought that there would be more pressure on the servers during an event (I got dc'd twice while doing quests and once in the finale-not to mention going near the chef area, always a problem).
9 the level 5 requirement....ditch it....I have a bunch of mules that would have loved to get some more tokens for me to open (and see if my horrible luck would continue)....or something like character must be at least 1 month old to participate or level 5.....(some of my mules are going to have a second birthday soon!)
well thats all I can think of for now....
2 rat mini in finale---just like last year (this I would NOT have changed)....I see no problem with there being a plethera of minis---who gives a ratsass about the ecomony anet smashed the heck out of that a LOOOOOOONNNG time ago...to late to fix it now.
3 forget the mini pigs altogether---no need to give out another mini for naught.
4 yeah the ingredients....welll I got 17/22...so I would not have completed ANY of the dishes by my self (spent my time working on getting fortunes for the gd rat
...ok over that now)...people who gave say 10 of the ingredients should have gotten a better award---not all of the ingredients were asked for (but I noticed that he ALWAYS asked for the smoking remains---couldnt get those for the life of me)....and not people who gave the same one over and over (yeah you could do that for tokens ...got rid of a bunch of naga hides that way). So maybe these people could have gotten a fireworks (though I have no idea what I will do with mine beside sell it---no guild hall)5 NEW quests....with 16 characters (yeah did all the canthan ones with them all--only the survivors did the elonian one)....it only took me 30 minutes to complete all 5. Had it down to a science (glad I wasnt noticed they would have thought me a bot!)....yeah I know gw2 is taking all their time, but hey gw is still here---if you dont keep us happy there wont be a gw2!
6 NEW ingredients....maybe some of the useless things from eye????
7 rollerbeetle, no ideas here since I never play those kinds of things (not a very fast connection and the LAGGG).
8 deal with LAGG---had bunches of it yet again, you'd think after wintersday that they would have thought that there would be more pressure on the servers during an event (I got dc'd twice while doing quests and once in the finale-not to mention going near the chef area, always a problem).
9 the level 5 requirement....ditch it....I have a bunch of mules that would have loved to get some more tokens for me to open (and see if my horrible luck would continue)....or something like character must be at least 1 month old to participate or level 5.....(some of my mules are going to have a second birthday soon!)
well thats all I can think of for now....
genofreek
None of this percentage bull for the rat. If I want to sink my valuables and gamble, there's always 9 Rings. You can get how many tokens through quests on a single character? 125? Make a collector that gives one celestial rat per 100 lunar tokens. Or a stack if you absolutely HAVE to make people farm. And maybe have the collector only pop in on Sunday for a REAL "I-was-there" feeling since they cheapened the hell out of the hat. :P
Speaking of...
Just slight changes to the hat, so it looks like someone at Anet cares a little. I didn't really need an all-new hat, but maybe a moderately different one would've made people who were here last year a little happier.
If they have to sink pigs, which they definitely don't, I second 3 regulars for one celestial. Far more reasonable. And maybe add an alternate way to offer the celestial pig for people who didn't hoard, gave away their extras, or weren't even here last year. A once-per-account quest?
Seconding observer mode for Rollerbeetle. I only played it a little bit, but I got my ass KICKED by people who'd memorized the course. Not that I cared much, but anyway, I'd rather watch these things than participate!
Keep the chefs, since I don't have a better idea and it's really not that complicated, but maybe ask for early/midgame trophies instead of all this endgame stuff that takes hours to farm. These chefs are terrible hosts as it is, all inviting us to parties and then expecting us to bring the ingredients for dinner and not even giving us any! :P Don't make me farm remains and stuff!
Edit: Speaking of the chefs not feeding us... how bout it, Anet? If all 5 chefs get their meals done right and the celestial's pleased, maybe let the citizens sample the goods too? Skin change some Feast of Bokka food items or sweets? This one's just a random thought. A little player's bonus. I actually kinda prefer the crates of fireworks to having buttloads of Skale Fin soup hanging out in my inventory.
Speaking of...
Just slight changes to the hat, so it looks like someone at Anet cares a little. I didn't really need an all-new hat, but maybe a moderately different one would've made people who were here last year a little happier.
If they have to sink pigs, which they definitely don't, I second 3 regulars for one celestial. Far more reasonable. And maybe add an alternate way to offer the celestial pig for people who didn't hoard, gave away their extras, or weren't even here last year. A once-per-account quest?
Seconding observer mode for Rollerbeetle. I only played it a little bit, but I got my ass KICKED by people who'd memorized the course. Not that I cared much, but anyway, I'd rather watch these things than participate!
Keep the chefs, since I don't have a better idea and it's really not that complicated, but maybe ask for early/midgame trophies instead of all this endgame stuff that takes hours to farm. These chefs are terrible hosts as it is, all inviting us to parties and then expecting us to bring the ingredients for dinner and not even giving us any! :P Don't make me farm remains and stuff!
Edit: Speaking of the chefs not feeding us... how bout it, Anet? If all 5 chefs get their meals done right and the celestial's pleased, maybe let the citizens sample the goods too? Skin change some Feast of Bokka food items or sweets? This one's just a random thought. A little player's bonus. I actually kinda prefer the crates of fireworks to having buttloads of Skale Fin soup hanging out in my inventory.
HawkofStorms
Remove dishonorable from bettle racing. Quiting or slow loading in bettle racing doesn't hurt your teammates, you have none. It punishes people with slow comps or anybody who rubberbands at the start and decides to /resign because they won't get to the end in 30 seconds.
Silly Warrior
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This mini only created friction. I don't think it should have been there at all.
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Sparks Dawnbringer
Maike what you get from the chefs in return for ingredients something worthwhile, like ten gift bags and 10 lunar fortunes and 10 festival tickets. Then people would be willing to go get the stuff for the chefs. And increase the drop rate on the very rare items to make them a bit easier to get. Shadowy Remains and Kracken Eyes to name a couple.
Make the special prize better than 5 crates of fireworks. I like the idea that there is something that will be for the guild halls. But would like permanent upgrades instead of 10 minute ones. I'd like to be able to lite my beacons in my hall.
Make the mask different.
Change the Pig to rat ratio to 3 instead of 5 and refund 2 pigs to every one who paid 5.
The new Pig and Rat are very nice and I like them very much. Very good job here and lovely design and idea.
I enjoy doing the quests and would have added one to Lions Arch too. That way there would be one quest on each continent. And maybe one in GW:EN too. It gets a bit grindy but I had to finish them on every character I could.
Make the special prize better than 5 crates of fireworks. I like the idea that there is something that will be for the guild halls. But would like permanent upgrades instead of 10 minute ones. I'd like to be able to lite my beacons in my hall.
Make the mask different.
Change the Pig to rat ratio to 3 instead of 5 and refund 2 pigs to every one who paid 5.
The new Pig and Rat are very nice and I like them very much. Very good job here and lovely design and idea.
I enjoy doing the quests and would have added one to Lions Arch too. That way there would be one quest on each continent. And maybe one in GW:EN too. It gets a bit grindy but I had to finish them on every character I could.
Croco Clouds
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Remove Super Rollerbeetle skill IMO. I think that's what knocks off the balance of it. I can still get 470k without any super roller beetle or echoes though.
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Shayne Hawke
RBR: Top 100 - One score per account, highest score used.
fenix
By making Rollerbeetle not give a prize. That way people wouldn't complain. Also, making no celestial pig or rat. Thread after thread complaining about the event is boring.
Crom The Pale
RAT Hat, nuff said!
Cacheelma
This is gonna be a long post.
-Mini Celestial Pig: As a developer, I'd realize that there're so many minipigs in the game due to the large amount given out last year. I'd find a way to reduce it. But I'd also think that sensible players won't probably keep more than 1 minipig with them. So, in order for them to get the celestial pig, they MUST TRADE with those who have many minipigs.
Now, I'd also realize that trading system in my game would make it difficult for people to trade with others, and the price would be fluctuated so much that balanced price won't be reached in just a day or two. Normal players won't have a chance to get the celestial pig without trading with others, or if they don't have enough money. I would, however, let the players know LONG BEFORE the start of the event about what's coming and how many they'd need.
So, I'd still make it a 5:1 trade. But I WILL ALSO PROVIDE ANOTHER MEANS to obtain the celestial pig. The amount would be as many as the rate of celestial rat. This way, those with surplus minipigs can trade for the new celestial pig. Those who don't have that many minipigs can still obtain the celestial pig the harder way.
-Mini Celestial Rat: The drop rate of the rat from lunar fortune seems fine to me (as I got one myself from the tokens I got from doing quests + trade-in). But then again, I'm not good at stats so I'll leave this one alone.
-Mask: This depends. I'd try and see if my people can afford to make a new hat (or at least a modified version of the old one, how hard can a tiny modification like name-changing be?). If they can then by all means. But if they can't, I'd stick with what I keep telling the players about how I'll never repeat old hats; and just make this event "Hat-less".
-Finale Event: With loot-scaling, I'd know that players won't be able to farm for the items as easy as last year. So I would let them know the ingredients some time in advance OR change the ingredients to something from GWEN, as I'd think most people are actively playing in GWEN area and chances are they might have items from the area already.
-The festival games like beetle racing and dragon arena seem to have their own issues, I'll leave those to the experts.
-Mini Celestial Pig: As a developer, I'd realize that there're so many minipigs in the game due to the large amount given out last year. I'd find a way to reduce it. But I'd also think that sensible players won't probably keep more than 1 minipig with them. So, in order for them to get the celestial pig, they MUST TRADE with those who have many minipigs.
Now, I'd also realize that trading system in my game would make it difficult for people to trade with others, and the price would be fluctuated so much that balanced price won't be reached in just a day or two. Normal players won't have a chance to get the celestial pig without trading with others, or if they don't have enough money. I would, however, let the players know LONG BEFORE the start of the event about what's coming and how many they'd need.
So, I'd still make it a 5:1 trade. But I WILL ALSO PROVIDE ANOTHER MEANS to obtain the celestial pig. The amount would be as many as the rate of celestial rat. This way, those with surplus minipigs can trade for the new celestial pig. Those who don't have that many minipigs can still obtain the celestial pig the harder way.
-Mini Celestial Rat: The drop rate of the rat from lunar fortune seems fine to me (as I got one myself from the tokens I got from doing quests + trade-in). But then again, I'm not good at stats so I'll leave this one alone.
-Mask: This depends. I'd try and see if my people can afford to make a new hat (or at least a modified version of the old one, how hard can a tiny modification like name-changing be?). If they can then by all means. But if they can't, I'd stick with what I keep telling the players about how I'll never repeat old hats; and just make this event "Hat-less".
-Finale Event: With loot-scaling, I'd know that players won't be able to farm for the items as easy as last year. So I would let them know the ingredients some time in advance OR change the ingredients to something from GWEN, as I'd think most people are actively playing in GWEN area and chances are they might have items from the area already.
-The festival games like beetle racing and dragon arena seem to have their own issues, I'll leave those to the experts.
Mork from Ork
Three main changes for me:
1: pig trade in - instead of trading 5 pigs, trade in 5 minipets (can be whatever minis you want and all 5 do not have to be the same) for celestial pig (or maybe for you characters celestial birth animal?)- let's clear out those other useless minis too. And make the collector permanent so we can trade in our fungal wallows throughout the year.
2: hat - change the appearance. Re-using old hat means lots of complaints in future about wanting old hats
3: rats - put them in the red bags instead of the fortunes and even out the drop rate somehow. I got five with very few fortunes while others got none after going through a thousand. And putting them in fortunes makes them get used up in the festival instead of saved for blessed aura use in pve like they were intended. The red bags just make more sense.
1: pig trade in - instead of trading 5 pigs, trade in 5 minipets (can be whatever minis you want and all 5 do not have to be the same) for celestial pig (or maybe for you characters celestial birth animal?)- let's clear out those other useless minis too. And make the collector permanent so we can trade in our fungal wallows throughout the year.
2: hat - change the appearance. Re-using old hat means lots of complaints in future about wanting old hats
3: rats - put them in the red bags instead of the fortunes and even out the drop rate somehow. I got five with very few fortunes while others got none after going through a thousand. And putting them in fortunes makes them get used up in the festival instead of saved for blessed aura use in pve like they were intended. The red bags just make more sense.
some guy
1-1 celestial pig trade.
Tell how to obtain a rat before the event.
Tell how to obtain a rat before the event.
Vilaptca
Just a couple issues with this event, that I would've liked to have changed.
1. Mini-pig. I know. It's been stated many times...but this should have never been added to this event at all. They should have changed the model of all mini-pigs to celestial pigs to match the new celestial rat. The end. No collector.
2. Crate of Fireworks. Completely lame. If you are going to give us something to show that we were at this event, it should not be able to be consumed. Everlasting Crate of Fireworks. Still only usable in Guild Halls. Only 1 instead of 5. No reason to give out five of something that can't be used up.
3. Lion Mask. We've always received new ones every event. They've always said they'd never re-release a mask. Stop changing your stance on everything. Either you aren't going to re-release masks, or you need to do them all.
1. Mini-pig. I know. It's been stated many times...but this should have never been added to this event at all. They should have changed the model of all mini-pigs to celestial pigs to match the new celestial rat. The end. No collector.
2. Crate of Fireworks. Completely lame. If you are going to give us something to show that we were at this event, it should not be able to be consumed. Everlasting Crate of Fireworks. Still only usable in Guild Halls. Only 1 instead of 5. No reason to give out five of something that can't be used up.
3. Lion Mask. We've always received new ones every event. They've always said they'd never re-release a mask. Stop changing your stance on everything. Either you aren't going to re-release masks, or you need to do them all.
Operative 14
- Change the Mini pigs to a 3:1 trade instead of 5:1. Let's face it, a large group of people gave away, or threw away, their pigs in the last year. I think it was a neat idea, I just wish it were accessible to a larger group of people. I got two pigs on Thursday not knowing what they were even going to be traded for, and I was a bit flabbergasted when on Friday I saw I needed five of the little guys. I suppose I made a tidy 12k profit selling them I guess, but I'm still Celestial Pig-less. And darn my packrattyness and lack of fortitude when I gave away the three I was saving from last years festival for 'when they became more valuable later' 
- A new hat. Even if it was just a reskin of the lion mask from last year, even if the changes were nearly imperceptible, they should have had a new hat. I guess as far as hats go they now have a "Absolutely NO chance to of anyone ever, EVER getting a hat from a past festival. Except for Dragon Fest 2007... and Wintersday 2007.... and..uh.. Canthan New Year 2007" stance.
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- The Crate of Fireworks should work in both Towns and Guild Halls, and have upwards of 5 uses each.
Other than that I wouldn't change anything. Probably the only thing I might consider changing is to place less importance on so many different ingredients for the feast at the end, so it wasn't about farming and districts didn't need to be sponsored. However, that seemed to work out okay.
- A new hat. Even if it was just a reskin of the lion mask from last year, even if the changes were nearly imperceptible, they should have had a new hat. I guess as far as hats go they now have a "Absolutely NO chance to of anyone ever, EVER getting a hat from a past festival. Except for Dragon Fest 2007... and Wintersday 2007.... and..uh.. Canthan New Year 2007" stance.
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- The Crate of Fireworks should work in both Towns and Guild Halls, and have upwards of 5 uses each.
Other than that I wouldn't change anything. Probably the only thing I might consider changing is to place less importance on so many different ingredients for the feast at the end, so it wasn't about farming and districts didn't need to be sponsored. However, that seemed to work out okay.
Seef II
Pigs: 2 for 1, or so. Most people that QQ'ed seemed to have kept an average of 3 pigs (including myself), and if you wanted to keep one for yourself, trading 2 and keeping the third would have worked the best.
Rats: as advertised, though the droprate was rather uneven. No complaints here.
Mask: as advertised, let the QQing begin though.
Fireworks: nifty, but unless your guild is of the super-active type they're kind of useless.
Rats: as advertised, though the droprate was rather uneven. No complaints here.
Mask: as advertised, let the QQing begin though.
Fireworks: nifty, but unless your guild is of the super-active type they're kind of useless.
zwei2stein
* I would not touch minipig thing. If i had to i would make it demanding HM-grade quest which ends up changing 1 pig to 1 celestial pig. Possibly doable only once per account. Possibly consuming pig when group wipes to make it "minipet sink".
* Normal rat mini from end of festival in successful district. Celestial rat for person which donated more than 50% ingrediences in successful district.
* I would keep same hat from last year ... no point making new. If i was forced to makes new wearable i would instead create set of gloves to go with hat or something new in that style. I would still keep old hat in it and add chance to get it via quest.
* Add 1 quest to lions arch.
* Normal rat mini from end of festival in successful district. Celestial rat for person which donated more than 50% ingrediences in successful district.
* I would keep same hat from last year ... no point making new. If i was forced to makes new wearable i would instead create set of gloves to go with hat or something new in that style. I would still keep old hat in it and add chance to get it via quest.
* Add 1 quest to lions arch.
Numa Pompilius
No minipig collector. For ANet to interve in the economy at the request of someone who's hoarded something but is disappointed it hasn't increased in value like he'd hoped, is very, very, very bad. The whole affair stinks of corruption.
Otherwise I felt the event was good. Possibly I'd have restricted the red bags to people who'd supplied ingredients, 1 ingredient = 2 red bag.
Otherwise I felt the event was good. Possibly I'd have restricted the red bags to people who'd supplied ingredients, 1 ingredient = 2 red bag.
BodhiNightwind
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How would YOU have handled this event?
If you could improve it, what would you have done differently? -Mini Celestial Pig. Collector takes 3 Mini pigs. Not 5. Why? It seems more reasonable. At the current rate pigs are at 20-30kish, making the celestial pig 100k+. 3 mini pig requirement would have lowered the demand slightly, increased supply slightly and perhaps brought the prices down to a reasonable amount for casual players. I think 30k for a celestial pig seems reasonable. -Mini Celestial Rat. I like that we are told HOW to get a rat this year ahead of time. -Mask. I would have modified last year's Nian mask slightly...just enough to make it different (like the two pumpkin helms). Doesnt have to be remade from scratch. -Finale Event. I never liked how this finale required items from all over the place. The reward was never good. I think....they should ahve made it so...if you helped with at least 1 dish, you get the finale box of fireworks. Leechers would still get the mask, leechers would get the bags, but only people with ingredients would get the explosives. Meaning 1 complete ingredients set. I would have also removed Smoking Remains from the list. That sucks to farm. -Beetle racing. We need a new map. We need better rules. We need to make it harder to cheat. I dont know what i would do though. |
2. I got 1 rat after a lot of fortunes. Some people didn't get any. This isn't right. Some people came away from this even with no pet at all.
3. Mask could have and should have been different. Especially since they have said they would never reissue a mask. Also it's supposed to be a New Year after all. Same old mask as last year doesn't give me that New Year feeling.
4. Finale Event is only a good idea if you're one of the lucky ones who gets in a district with all ingredients. Then there's lots of nice happy warm fuzzy community spirit. But if you are banished to American District 517, don't expect to get any prizes. Leechers shouldn't get anything but the mask really.
Leechers on the rings shouldn't get anything.
You do get a token for turning in an item and I like that. I didn't have all the ingredients this year and if not for DVDF guild I may not have seen any crates of fireworks in my inventory. I think the finale should have offered Lunar Fortunes at least, or if not a pet. At least some real chance at getting a pet. The prizes for the finale were disappointing. For the amount of work put into farming the items the prizes were not equal to it.
I think there should be more rewards for people who at least try, and less rewards for leeching.
All that being said, I do like the idea of 10 minute long Guild Hall fireworks. I know I will enjoy them.
Jongo River
The pig was the big /fail that brought down the event. Almost everything would have just been another holiday grumble if it hadn't been for that.
It just seemed like the ludicrous pig scheme created this snowballing sense of discontent - How many fortunes is the rat gonna take? Do I even want the rat, if I'll never have a complete celestial collection, without stumping up 100K for the pig? Will I ever find a district with anything but the soup finished? WTF do I do with Guild Hall Fireworks? *That* hat again?!
FWIW - If I was God of ANet HQ, I would have ordered the following decrees:
No new hats for 2008 onwards (I actually don't mind that, so long as they gradually re-use the ones I don't have).
Pets announced as prizes for the event in advance (so I don't have to waste time farming quests). Awarded as the previous year, with slight amendment:
1 Ordinary Rat for participating in a winning district and control numbers by only allowing 1 per character or even account. No celestials - they don't actually look very good.
Beetleracing - I'm not sure, since I've only really started playing, but it seems like there is a staggering advantage if half the team quits at the beginning. Perhaps scores should not be recorded, if more than 2 players leave? Obviously the score board needs some work, too - 1 entry per player.
Oh, and just to add - I actually think they broke the one thing that really, really needed fixing. Lots of districts failed last year, but it seemed to me that even more failed this year. I only managed to find one winner. I suspect players were too busy farming fortunes, to farm the ingredients. I know that was the case for me. Announcing the rat as the prize for a district win would have made things better than last year (when we didn't know the pig would be the prize until the first finale), since everyone would have known to farm for the pet. But they went the other way.
It just seemed like the ludicrous pig scheme created this snowballing sense of discontent - How many fortunes is the rat gonna take? Do I even want the rat, if I'll never have a complete celestial collection, without stumping up 100K for the pig? Will I ever find a district with anything but the soup finished? WTF do I do with Guild Hall Fireworks? *That* hat again?!
FWIW - If I was God of ANet HQ, I would have ordered the following decrees:
No new hats for 2008 onwards (I actually don't mind that, so long as they gradually re-use the ones I don't have).
Pets announced as prizes for the event in advance (so I don't have to waste time farming quests). Awarded as the previous year, with slight amendment:
1 Ordinary Rat for participating in a winning district and control numbers by only allowing 1 per character or even account. No celestials - they don't actually look very good.
Beetleracing - I'm not sure, since I've only really started playing, but it seems like there is a staggering advantage if half the team quits at the beginning. Perhaps scores should not be recorded, if more than 2 players leave? Obviously the score board needs some work, too - 1 entry per player.
Oh, and just to add - I actually think they broke the one thing that really, really needed fixing. Lots of districts failed last year, but it seemed to me that even more failed this year. I only managed to find one winner. I suspect players were too busy farming fortunes, to farm the ingredients. I know that was the case for me. Announcing the rat as the prize for a district win would have made things better than last year (when we didn't know the pig would be the prize until the first finale), since everyone would have known to farm for the pet. But they went the other way.
WinterSnowblind
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How would YOU have handled this event?
If you could improve it, what would you have done differently? -Mini Celestial Pig. Collector takes 3 Mini pigs. Not 5. Why? It seems more reasonable. At the current rate pigs are at 20-30kish, making the celestial pig 100k+. 3 mini pig requirement would have lowered the demand slightly, increased supply slightly and perhaps brought the prices down to a reasonable amount for casual players. I think 30k for a celestial pig seems reasonable. -Mini Celestial Rat. I like that we are told HOW to get a rat this year ahead of time. -Mask. I would have modified last year's Nian mask slightly...just enough to make it different (like the two pumpkin helms). Doesnt have to be remade from scratch. -Finale Event. I never liked how this finale required items from all over the place. The reward was never good. I think....they should ahve made it so...if you helped with at least 1 dish, you get the finale box of fireworks. Leechers would still get the mask, leechers would get the bags, but only people with ingredients would get the explosives. Meaning 1 complete ingredients set. I would have also removed Smoking Remains from the list. That sucks to farm. -Beetle racing. We need a new map. We need better rules. We need to make it harder to cheat. I dont know what i would do though. |
And yes, re-using the hat seems like a terrible idea, it's one of my favourite hats and I'm actually glad more people could get it.. But I missed the 2005 events because I didn't know they were going on and I really want an original Yule Cap. If everyone else got the Lion Mask why shouldn't I be able to get a Yule Cap?
It's ruined the specialness of the hats, and it's a perfect excuse for wanting the rest of them to be mass distributed.
Godo th great
1. Mini pig - Should be one undedicated mini pig for a mini celestial pig. Why you can trade in a dedicated mini is beyond me.
2. Ingredients should have been posted earlier. As far as why a lot of districts didn't have complete feasts...skip down 2 items.
3. Mini rat - Should have been the Finale prize along with gift bags. Who cares that they didn't come up in price over the year? The whiptail dipped down to this pricing area over time as well. I don't see a trader for them.
4. Firework Crate and Party title - Firework Crate is an utter let down for the finale. Why were most districts completing the feasts last year and not this year? Because the reward (mini pig) made it worth it. Enough said. I am a little disappointed that we have another 'look how much money' I have title.
How about an Experience or a Quest title? Something that is about more than In Game Cash.
5. Lion Mask - Thanks for the effort. When am I going to get a crack at a Dragon mask...And please don't reuse the bogus Demon mask this year.
6. Lunar Tokens/Fortunes and giftbags. The rat should have been in the bags. Lunar token droprate was unacceptable, it was horrendous. Lunar fortunes should not have had the rat in them just for the fact that then they could have been saved and used in PvE instead of the rat lottery.
2. Ingredients should have been posted earlier. As far as why a lot of districts didn't have complete feasts...skip down 2 items.
3. Mini rat - Should have been the Finale prize along with gift bags. Who cares that they didn't come up in price over the year? The whiptail dipped down to this pricing area over time as well. I don't see a trader for them.
4. Firework Crate and Party title - Firework Crate is an utter let down for the finale. Why were most districts completing the feasts last year and not this year? Because the reward (mini pig) made it worth it. Enough said. I am a little disappointed that we have another 'look how much money' I have title.
How about an Experience or a Quest title? Something that is about more than In Game Cash.
5. Lion Mask - Thanks for the effort. When am I going to get a crack at a Dragon mask...And please don't reuse the bogus Demon mask this year.
6. Lunar Tokens/Fortunes and giftbags. The rat should have been in the bags. Lunar token droprate was unacceptable, it was horrendous. Lunar fortunes should not have had the rat in them just for the fact that then they could have been saved and used in PvE instead of the rat lottery.
Gli
Things I'd done differently.
1) A general minipet 'refurbisher' instead of a mini pig collector. Trade any 5 minipets, dedicated or otherwise, for a giftbox delivering a random new minipet (birthday series only). This NPC could stay after the festival.
2) No butt-ugly celestial pigs/rats. The rat pet would've been a Jahai rat.
3) Better rewards for turning in ingredients. A token per ingredient is a good base, but there should be a bonus for every complete dish and a bigger bonus for 5 complete dishes. It doesn't have to be huge, but the effort to get all ingredients should at least award tokens comparable to just running all the festival quests in 20-30 minutes.
1) A general minipet 'refurbisher' instead of a mini pig collector. Trade any 5 minipets, dedicated or otherwise, for a giftbox delivering a random new minipet (birthday series only). This NPC could stay after the festival.
2) No butt-ugly celestial pigs/rats. The rat pet would've been a Jahai rat.
3) Better rewards for turning in ingredients. A token per ingredient is a good base, but there should be a bonus for every complete dish and a bigger bonus for 5 complete dishes. It doesn't have to be huge, but the effort to get all ingredients should at least award tokens comparable to just running all the festival quests in 20-30 minutes.
Linksys
The special minipets like the ones you get from magazines and event minipets were fun for me. But now I've had a few and they're not so special to me. I mean to me they're not. Still I got a buttload of lunar fortunes instead of gift bags to see if I get one or more rats out of curiosity. Maybe I can sell it before the price goes down. But I don't really care to keep it. I guess that's why I'm not really upset for myself that all of a sudden, wow we should have kept our mini pigs from last year. But I did find myself a little upset for everyone else who was affected, like on their behalf, because of their own situations with having mini pigs and not having them anymore.
I'm sure this won't be a repeating pattern in the game. But still, I admit it may make me more paranoid about selling or giving away items. I'm even afraid to use my festival items because if I do, what if the following weekend will be a double party animal points event? So I may end up just saving them up on a mule character for a very long time. I mean just now I'm thinking about my mini Ceratadon and mini Destroyer thinking about selling them or giving them away. But now that thought is interrupted like a Savage Shot by that feeling, that thought that says hmm, maybe I better keep them afterall...
I'm sure this won't be a repeating pattern in the game. But still, I admit it may make me more paranoid about selling or giving away items. I'm even afraid to use my festival items because if I do, what if the following weekend will be a double party animal points event? So I may end up just saving them up on a mule character for a very long time. I mean just now I'm thinking about my mini Ceratadon and mini Destroyer thinking about selling them or giving them away. But now that thought is interrupted like a Savage Shot by that feeling, that thought that says hmm, maybe I better keep them afterall...
Pleikki
mm Cant rly say alot to this same happened me what happened cristmas..
= Huge lag cause of mob and then my Pc heats and brokes FFs allways when some fun event to get lucky/unlucky and other titles..
= Huge lag cause of mob and then my Pc heats and brokes FFs allways when some fun event to get lucky/unlucky and other titles..
Linksys
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mm Cant rly say alot to this same happened me what happened cristmas..
= Huge lag cause of mob and then my Pc heats and brokes FFs allways when some fun event to get lucky/unlucky and other titles.. |
Longasc
1.) 1:1 exchange of Pigs
2.) Normal Rat from Finale
3.) Increasing rewards for turning in ingredients for the dishes
4.) no more future "minipet exchanges" like that
5.) Masks at the beginning of the festival, not at the end. Do not need a hat after the party!! This is really dumb and true for all events.
6.) I would have removed several titles from the game instead of adding one more consumable/money title. Seriously.
I do not like the fact that AFKing people get the spoils and all others hope for DVDF to organize stuff. I donated some guardian moss to a friend who collected stuff, and wonder if he does not feel bad for so much effort and then everyone else gets the stuff for just afking there on the 9 rings???
And to make it even worse, the person in question did not get a single rat from the fortunes over the whole weekend, had to buy one, despite having contributed a full menu for the silly rat.
2.) Normal Rat from Finale
3.) Increasing rewards for turning in ingredients for the dishes
4.) no more future "minipet exchanges" like that
5.) Masks at the beginning of the festival, not at the end. Do not need a hat after the party!! This is really dumb and true for all events.
6.) I would have removed several titles from the game instead of adding one more consumable/money title. Seriously.
I do not like the fact that AFKing people get the spoils and all others hope for DVDF to organize stuff. I donated some guardian moss to a friend who collected stuff, and wonder if he does not feel bad for so much effort and then everyone else gets the stuff for just afking there on the 9 rings???
And to make it even worse, the person in question did not get a single rat from the fortunes over the whole weekend, had to buy one, despite having contributed a full menu for the silly rat.
Linksys
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raven214
1. Mini celestial pig -- Should have been 1:1 or at most 2:1. 5 is rediculous.
2. Mini celestial rat -- Remove it as a (barely ever) possible fortune drop. Instead, add an npc that gives one per character for 100 tokens (or if you must, a full stack).
3. Mask -- A slightly altered mask (such as what's been done with pumpkin masks).
4. Fireworks crate -- Not sure, honestly. Maybe increase the Party points for use significantly.
5. Rollerbeatle racing. -- At least one new track. Remove >90 degree turns to help with the lag.
2. Mini celestial rat -- Remove it as a (barely ever) possible fortune drop. Instead, add an npc that gives one per character for 100 tokens (or if you must, a full stack).
3. Mask -- A slightly altered mask (such as what's been done with pumpkin masks).
4. Fireworks crate -- Not sure, honestly. Maybe increase the Party points for use significantly.
5. Rollerbeatle racing. -- At least one new track. Remove >90 degree turns to help with the lag.
Harmless
Changes:
1. Give the minipet out with the hats, that cuts down on the frustration of trying to obtain one. And let you know ahead of time how you will obtain it. Rationale: If you are nonstop token gathering in hopes of gaining a mini, you won't be participating in the other festival events. That causes more boredom, and less fun.
2. Let people know that the ingredient list will not change from year to year, or if there are changes, tell us well ahead of time.
3. As far as the pig trade goes, it was a nice addition to reward people who had kept a lot of minipigs. Unfortunately, many people had given away, sold, or trashed theirs, which led to disappointment in not being able to get one. However, that happens anytime they add a new use for an old item.
4. Everlasting fireworks crate for guildhalls. Would be great for parties!
1. Give the minipet out with the hats, that cuts down on the frustration of trying to obtain one. And let you know ahead of time how you will obtain it. Rationale: If you are nonstop token gathering in hopes of gaining a mini, you won't be participating in the other festival events. That causes more boredom, and less fun.
2. Let people know that the ingredient list will not change from year to year, or if there are changes, tell us well ahead of time.
3. As far as the pig trade goes, it was a nice addition to reward people who had kept a lot of minipigs. Unfortunately, many people had given away, sold, or trashed theirs, which led to disappointment in not being able to get one. However, that happens anytime they add a new use for an old item.
4. Everlasting fireworks crate for guildhalls. Would be great for parties!
seut
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I donated some guardian moss to a friend who collected stuff, and wonder if he does not feel bad for so much effort and then everyone else gets the stuff for just afking there on the 9 rings???
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I did the same last year and didn't feel bad that everybody got a mini pig. This year i got no mini in 500+ lunar fortunes and stupid party items i'll never use, because i hate the consumable titles.
There should've been an extra shot for the celestial rat, if you provide all ingredients.
To answer the OP: How would i handle this event? (actually changing the whole direction the game is heading)
Remove KoabD r6, thus anybody can max the title through playing the game. (or add titles achievable through gameplay, not money burning)
Remove Drunkard, Sweet Tooth & Party Animal titles from KoabD count. Make them the fun titles.
Remove gamer title and rewards from the leech script infested Dragon Arena and the spike join Rollerbeetle Racing... you know.. play for fun?
Remove all non birthday gift minis..
Remove the Hall of Monuments!
...change the event (and the whole game) to what it should be about: FUN
pkodyssey
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They should have simply left the pigs alone, period.
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BAD MOVE ANET.
I threw away 7 pigs because I couldn't give them away 2 months ago.
Everything else was fine.
Mork from Ork
Adding to my suggestions - change the way the feast is handled
I restarted my characters so I could not farm for ingredients. But, since I had made 100k from the event I decided to buy an entire feast. I spent 20k and managed to get all except 4 items. Checked before event and all four were present in the district. Just before event began one person with one item went afk or moved to another district. In the end I got my crates in districts where I leeched and wound up providing most of the feast in a district that got nothing.
Maybe give some kind of incentive award to each character who completes a full dish even if the district does not complete the feast?
I restarted my characters so I could not farm for ingredients. But, since I had made 100k from the event I decided to buy an entire feast. I spent 20k and managed to get all except 4 items. Checked before event and all four were present in the district. Just before event began one person with one item went afk or moved to another district. In the end I got my crates in districts where I leeched and wound up providing most of the feast in a district that got nothing.
Maybe give some kind of incentive award to each character who completes a full dish even if the district does not complete the feast?