Throne of Secrets

Legends

Legends

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

[Merc]

P/Rt

This should be an outpost. That way people who miss getting the Book of Secrets can go back and grab it. DISCUSS!

Ajank3r

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madison, WI

Guardians of the Ale [ALLY]

Mo/

Hmmmm, possibly two versions of the outpost because it wouldn't make sense for the people to continue to cheer when you were just in the outpost but hadn't done anything recently for them.

/signed in the near future (needs more debate)

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

Because Abbadon is so hard to beat in NM. No, if they missed it the first time, then they can beat him again. He isn't that hard.

Legends

Legends

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

[Merc]

P/Rt

Make It an explorable area with a nearby outpost.

Quote:
Originally Posted by I pwnd U
Because Abbadon is so hard to beat in NM. No, if they missed it the first time, then they can beat him again. He isn't that hard.
BTW after playing all week I don't even want to do any more missions.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

How would you forget...?

Legends

Legends

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

[Merc]

P/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
How would you forget...?
I've never beaten Nightfall. I thought It appeared In your inventory.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

It didn't appear in your inventory in Factions either... Plus, the NPC tells you to get it?

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

It takes five minutes--you can run through the mission again. Good lord, whining.

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Legends
BTW after playing all week I don't even want to do any more missions.

It takes under 20 minutes to get Masters, it really isn't that long. Take another 20 mins and go back and get it. Just because you forgot it doesn't mean others will. Sorry, but I see no need for such an outpost.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Just /rank Abaddon or /dance

That should work

+1

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

There isn't even a discussion here, laziness ahs hit an all time low.

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by I pwnd U
It takes under 20 minutes to get Masters, it really isn't that long. Take another 20 mins and go back and get it. Just because you forgot it doesn't mean others will. Sorry, but I see no need for such an outpost.
Takes under 10 if you heroway it

Yeah... no need for an outpost. There isn't one for Divine Path, so why would the Throne be any different?

Legends

Legends

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

[Merc]

P/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by RPGmaniac
Takes under 10 if you heroway it

Yeah... no need for an outpost. There isn't one for Divine Path, so why would the Throne be any different?
Because It doesn't tell you where to get the reward.

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

Was going off what it said on Wiki for masters. I couldn't remember my best time but I know it was lower then 20 for sure.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Point is, if you forget, go do it again...because it's only 10 minutes out of your life. It would take Anet months to make a whole new room just to go back and get the thing, so I think you spending 10 minutes is an easier option.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Legends
Because It doesn't tell you where to get the reward.
Yea im sure it took hours for the first people that did it to find where the reward is... Follow the path!!!!

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

While I do not think we need an outpost just to get the free green, I can understand the problems of getting the armor there.

Though you should look up in advance what materials to bring and have enough money on your char still that is a little more understandable reason for wanting if not an outpost, how about moving the armor crafter to the statue of Kormir in Chantry of Secrets.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

Wait, I'm confused. You can only use the Book Of Secrets in the area where you get it. Wouldn't you run to the collector, go "Oh shit, I need a book" and then look for it?

Unless I guess you only wanted it to sell it. :-\

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

This is totally unecessary, if you can't be arsed to do a quick 10 minute mission again you don't deserve your reward.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

If you want the item do the mission, stop being lazy.

Dark-NighT

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

Loads of people have high rank lightbringer now, join them, easy as pie.

All the campaign end bosses are kind of easy, shiro has his moments but overall he isnt that hard either.

Smile Like Umean It

Smile Like Umean It

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Rt

It's been known for quite a long time what you do. If someone knows what it is and that they've missed it then they should know how it's gotten. Forgetting is your own fault. If it's that big of a deal to get it either do the mission over or go buy one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by genofreek
Wait, I'm confused. You can only use the Book Of Secrets in the area where you get it. Wouldn't you run to the collector, go "Oh shit, I need a book" and then look for it?

Unless I guess you only wanted it to sell it. :-\
Exactly. Though if he was gonna sell it I don't think he'd have forgotten in the first place. And if he did forget that's a lapse in his mind. No reason for an additional outpost to be made.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

I am torn.

one one hand, putting outpost there is kinda pointless, it would be empty all the time and its not like you cant just redo mission ... you did it before, another run is only gonna be easier and faster.

on the other, it is equally pointless to fight abadon again if you already beaten him (on masters possibly) and if what you really only want is to do some business in there.

I guess it does not hurt if you already beaten him, forgotten NPC saying something like "Would you like to rejoin celebrations of abbadons demise? y/n" and then porting you to Thone of Secrets explorable if you already finished campaign.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

agreed it's way too hard, book should be given in Istan, why bother with the missions, quests and SS titles, those are too hard.. *cries*

/sarcasm

7hir7een

7hir7een

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

United States

Considering it's the same way for Factions, nothing is going to be done about it. It is an annoyance if you forget to talk to a hero you want, or if you forget the Book of Secrets, but it's not the end of the world. Just join a group for the last mission, it won't take too long to redo.

Father of The Son of God

Father of The Son of God

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

B(r, sun) where r > 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by I pwnd U
beat him again. He isn't that hard.
Best advice you can get.

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

They really should give a way for you to get back in without doing the mission again. Especially in Factions, where there's a damn portal to the Divine Path you can't reach (an NPC to transport you up there ala that door in Chantry of Secrets would work nicely in that case) right there in Kaineng Center...

XiaoTheBlade

XiaoTheBlade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Southern England

Reign Of Shadows

P/W

First time I did abaddon was with heroes and hench, 5.29. He is possibly the easiest mission in nightfall.

Artorius.Maximus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rising Rebellion

E/

Ok, I sympathize with the people who missed the reward due to not knowing. I still don't want an outpost there but I do have an alternate solution.

You get the the throne of secrets or the divine path, and a little mission update pops up (who knows could already be a tip that I have shut off) that says "Talk to so and so to get your book of secrets/amulet of the mists." (Similar to the update telling you how to gain access to other campaigns/GWEN.)

I can't see this taking too much time to implement as most of the work is already done and it is just a cut/paste for the most part into the right spot. I think that this would solve everyone's problem.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

They probably made it that way because credits fireworks or something like that could not be possible to be made if it where an outpost.

There is a lot of NPCs in them, afterall.