Anet and Suggestion Forums

Computerwiz1990

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

E/Me

I have a serious question. Does Anet really take into considerations all the suggestions on the suggest forum? Do they at all try to implament all that into the game?

Mr. G

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

no as most are rubbish im afriad, between the endless calls for the same impractical idea and the "Buff this skill so my build works right" theres little good there

but aparently they do check....

Akaraxle

Akaraxle

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Italy

E/

No.

Really, no. Because bad suggestions shouldn't be implemented into the game, there's a little guy filtering out those two-three good suggestions every odd lunar eclipse. The good suggestions are then read one year after and (perhaps) implemented two years after.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

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mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

I've Tried it here: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10242102.
None of which were made , still waiting for the Phoenix Hom bug to be fixed too.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

No, as 99.9% of suggestions are utter trash.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

and obviosuly they cant impliment all ideas. For one some arnt feasible, another reason is that Anet doesn't have to add extra stuff and thirdly, if they made alot of changes then everyone would start requestign alot more.

Kayelyyb

Kayelyyb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Founder of Nerfs Are [Whak]

N/Me

Actually there is a thread where someone asked that the faction fireworks displays that can only be used in hzh or cavalon be allowed in guild halls and now it is so.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

I'd like to see a list of suggestions that were implemented.

Of course, you could never prove it came directly from the suggestions, but one thing I know was suggested was being able to purchase extra character slots.

Stoneys Rock

Stoneys Rock

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Wales, United Kingdom

Great Success [GS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
No, as 99.9% of suggestions are utter trash.
not to mention the amount number of fansites. It's just not viable although I suppose if something really catches their eye they would take a shot at it I guess. ;D

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayelyyb
Actually there is a thread where someone asked that the faction fireworks displays that can only be used in hzh or cavalon be allowed in guild halls and now it is so.
- Yes and how urgent idea was that? What did it do to the game? Did it solve any of the real problems the game is facing? Did it improve anything? There's also been "balance" suggestions like Power Shot is so weak give it +30 damage. Apparently ANET pays attention to suggestions like that and that's why the game is so imbalanced. Only around ~30% of profession skills ever see use in the game. No need to consider Life Sheat, Healing Hands, Mark of Protection, Aura of Faith, Scribe's Insight when Healer's Boon, WoH, SoD, RC is statwise lightyear ahead.

Fool is not the one who asks but the one who gives.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Computerwiz1990
I have a serious question. Does Anet really take into considerations all the suggestions on the suggest forum? Do they at all try to implament all that into the game?
Thankfully, they have the presence of mind to ignore most of the suggestions (which are, frankly, terrible - check out most of Tender Wolf's ideas for examples of this)

I'd assume a couple of things done to the game have been influenced by suggestions made by players, though.

Free Runner

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

They take a few small ideas in. A month ago someone on GWO posted an idea for a title that grants points for using fireworks. Many suggested a Festival Hat Keeper for the Guild Hall. Ideas that while they dont make a huge impact on the game are nice to have around. But there have been many stupid suggestions (See: The thread last year in which someone wanted half the skills and ritualists deleted,the thread about entrance to elite areas being restricted to Kind of a Big Deal) so i'm glad they stick to their current stance.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Most of the good suggestions where added:
- Insignia
- Inscrptions
- Hard Mode
- Heroes
- Templaates
- PvP item creation panel.
- Zaishen Chest
- End-mission chests.
- Tomes
And the list goes on. There are a lot. All good things, all good.

Lord Feathers

Lord Feathers

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

ROAR - Rangers of Ascalon Return

R/P

Honestly I know they do check but look at 95% of the posts made here. Simply whinning, cursing, and throwing fits. After reading just a few threads I wouldn't put much stock in GURU myself anymore. Look at the rubbish written and the comments made by many. They do check but honestly I would imagine they would refuse to shift thru the endless posts of garbage. It would be nice to see the forums cleaned up and some " real discussion" go on but I've long given up on that happening at GURU anymore. Like many I simply look over a few things and if something peaks my interest I might respond but when you see the majority of posts as utter garbage or flame fests there is little hope that ANET would take things serious if many gamers refuse to do so. One can also not expect a company to bend over backwards to their every need.

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Feathers
Honestly I know they do check but look at 95% of the posts made here. Simply whinning, cursing, and throwing fits. After reading just a few threads I wouldn't put much stock in GURU myself anymore. Look at the rubbish written and the comments made by many. They do check but honestly I would imagine they would refuse to shift thru the endless posts of garbage. It would be nice to see the forums cleaned up and some " real discussion" go on but I've long given up on that happening at GURU anymore. Like many I simply look over a few things and if something peaks my interest I might respond but when you see the majority of posts as utter garbage or flame fests there is little hope that ANET would take things serious if many gamers refuse to do so. One can also not expect a company to bend over backwards to their every need.
- Did this post contribute to friendly and intelligent atmosphere?

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

MOST suggestions are utter garbage. A lot of stuff on skill balances is just a person who gets owned by a skill arguing against a guy who abuses a skill about it being balanced or not. In fact, many are contradictory. For example, how the heck would a.net be able to "make inscriptions world wide" and "eliminate inscriptions," both of which are actual suggestions on these forums.

That said, some good stuff is used. For example...

There was a big thread here about people wanting to reopen the catacombs post-searing. A lot of people also wanted to find out what happened to Ascalon and the Charr. So, we got the Depths of Tyria and GW:EN.

People kept asking for a bard class, so we got the paragon.
People wanted a rogue class, so we got the sin.
People want more "non combat armor" so we got sunglasses, etc.

Balan Makki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Last time I heard an A Net rep comment on suggestions was at GWO, I believe about a year back. Gaile simply stated that if the suggestion is concise and to the point, Yes they do read them.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

They listen to the sensible suggestions. For example someone made a thread about how people were entering the lux/kurz base in AB. I and some other suggested that they add more base defenders and one week later they did just that. Party animal was also a suggestion made on GwG

Lord Feathers

Lord Feathers

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

ROAR - Rangers of Ascalon Return

R/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by aapo
- Did this post contribute to friendly and intelligent atmosphere?
And what point were you trying to make aside from trying to goad someone into a flame fest ? If we want ANET to take suggestions serious then posts with things like

WTF THIS SUCKS UN-NERF THIS !

I HATE ANET ! THEY KILLED THE GAME

ect. ect. ect. will have to start being deleted or edited by the Mods. The sad part is they can't keep up with it and anytime someone mentions a change, suggestion, ect. it seems to always degrade into a flame fest or trolling thread.

Now if you actually read what was in my reply you might want to stop and consider that folks are not going to take anything serious or even bother to read something if it starts with WTF ! or sounds like a bunch of grade school kids whinning, but then again I was just trying to insight something according to you. Sadly what I wrote about abounds in just about every thread within these forums.

There were valid points made in several post as well as my own what did yours contribute again ?

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sonya
Of course Anet doesn't because everyone else here usually knocks down the good/great ideas anyways. Anet sees that and wallah no changes. Never seen so many negative people in my life in one place....wait....yes I have...in the guild wars game itself. lol
No, people here are very positive. ..Positive that many of the ideas suck!
And they're right!

Liberations

Liberations

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Azeroth (shhh)

Ryders of the Sword [FrNd]

E/

It's funny how people make accusations without knowing a rat's butt about what happens over on the other end.

A lot of suggestions in Sardelac have been implemented into the game. And remember Sardelac isn't the only place ArenaNet gets suggestions from.

And really does a game company have to listen to everything the players ask for? I've seen some pretty stupid suggestions tossed in there as well...

Two April Mornings

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
No, as 99.9% of suggestions are utter trash.
I <3 Ash.

On the twelfth char my mother game to me..

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

The definitely listen, and i'm sure the ideas influence a lot of in game additions, but there's not many ideas I believe they follow to the letter.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

You bet, my original Hard Mode suggestion had 5 grades of difficulty, XD.

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
You bet, my original Hard Mode suggestion had 5 grades of difficulty, XD.
I think this is a great example of why they don't implement ideas. Having 5 levels of difficulty is not as simple as adding a slider that just makes the game harder. (hm has different mobs, different AI, different skills, rewards..)
Also, how do you work out vanquishing? do you have to vanquish each level? Are they all worth the same?

Yet people look at this like a "simple suggestion". It's ridiculous.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Nah. It had no vanquishing. Just changes in armor and health, and specially AI. And finally in drops. The eaiest tier had no drops at all, while the highest had all items dropping near-max and req 8..11.

I think that the current hard mode it's a bit better. Grades of AI was the main point, and they added that. NM monsters are a bit more dumb.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
I'd like to see a list of suggestions that were implemented.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Category:Updates

Not all of these were through suggestions, but many were.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

The primary reason most suggestions aren't implemented (the secondary reason being that most of them suck) is that ArenaNet, by law, cannot directly copy a suggestion from unofficial forums.

The only reason Suggestion forums exist is to divert the bad ideas from the central forum, i.e. Riverside Inn.

Ironically, it appears that it's not working.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Actually, Suggestions forums are to keep track of the 'general thoughts' of the players.

First, they see what people want... although they do not always see that clearly.
Then, they see what they can do, and that's quite easy, since they are the ones that know better how the game works.
And finally, they see how much time they have to make that thing, and that's the greatest limiter when it comes to which ideas are finally added.

Once they know what to do, how to do it and they have time to do it, they usually do it.