CoP spike?

Loli Krasivaya

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Hi, I've wikid/googled/gurud and I'm still a bit confused. I've heard something about a Contemplation of Purity Spike (in relation to mesmers) and I was wondering if someone could explain it to me?

On that note, I know it's not a very well liked build so rest assured I have no plans to use it in PVP. Just curious

Kattar

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You sure it's Contemplation of Purity and not Cry of Pain???

??Ripskin

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[skill]Contemplation Of Purity[/skill]
Ho-boy, let's go spikin

DRGN

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I always knew that baby was too innocent to be trusted...

And besides, Cry of Pain is a PvE-only skill, so you couldn't do it in PvP anyway.

Celestial_Kitsune

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Ah yes, it is indeed a very evil spike. Here is how it works:

Several mesmers use Assassin's Promise + Cry of Pain to roll through PvE, but upon some success they start contemplating about purity of their build and role of PvE skills in GW...

Loli Krasivaya

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/facepalm

/doublefacepalm

/headdesk

I was wondering if there was some crazy trick I didn't know about that made Contemplation of Purity suddenly turn into crazy awesome damage.

And now, I realize why there were six Me/A and only two Me/Mo's in that group.

Once more:

/facepalm

Thanks Kitsune

Mr Pvper

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that was probably similar to something along the lines of dervway when nightfall's preview event came out, although cop isnt really an offensive skill......

Kattar

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Pvper
that was probably similar to something along the lines of dervway when nightfall's preview event came out, although cop isnt really an offensive skill...... Either that's some amazing sarcasm or someone didn't read the whole thread...

Sir Pandra Pierva

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i am leaning towrds the non thread idea

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Where I can eat yumy food

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You can use cry of pain to do big AoE damage to monsters. But the question is, who takes multiple mesmers to spike...in PvE?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
But the question is, who takes multiple mesmers to spike...in PvE? Gimmick...I've heard of people doing it, but never seen it. Never actually seen 8 mesmers in one place in PvE anyway.

The Meth

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I've never been crazy enough to try to even FIND 8 mesmers in pve (do that many even exist?), but cry of pain works flawlessly as any other class. Most of the time when doing dungeons with friends at least 3 or 4 of us are using cry of pain on our /me characters. Its probably the fastest killing build in the game.

Sir Pandra Pierva

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i wanna try it now with sins, since there seem to be an over abundence of them

You can't see me

You can't see me

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Meth
I've never been crazy enough to try to even FIND 8 mesmers in pve (do that many even exist?). Not currently, but they should.

See my thread on rebalancing the mesmer for this purpose.

CoP spike is just another way of saying the Mesmer must rely on crutches to operate for the objectives in PvE, like PvE skills.

Terra Xin

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Katsumi Rikyu
Gimmick...I've heard of people doing it, but never seen it. Never actually seen 8 mesmers in one place in PvE anyway. I see it all the time on these forums. They've done pretty much everywhere that would normally be hard to do. The builds they use are varied, but not in spike form.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Xin
I see it all the time on these forums. They've done pretty much everywhere that would normally be hard to do. The builds they use are varied, but not in spike form. When I say spike, all I mean is 8 mesmers using CoP at the same time. I doubt 8 mesmers could run some sort of spike team build. If that's what you mean, then I wholeheartedly agree.

Sir Pandra Pierva

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why is it just mes doing it know you need a mes hex but anyone can run this spike if you ask me.
you have 1 mes on the team everyone is x/A and they spike it

unless i am wrong you can use any of the PVE skills on any char so you can have CoP on an Ele/A?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
unless i am wrong you can use any of the PVE skills on any char so you can have CoP on an Ele/A? No, your primary or secondary must be one of the coresponding professions to use the skills of that profession. Just like any other skill in the game.

Rayne Nightfyre

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Another option to compliment Cry of Pain is using the Necromancer Sunspear Skill Necrosis, which also causes respectable damage after hexing a foe, although it's just to your target foe. But it is spammable with only a 2 second recharge, and 5 energy cost. Consider using Parasitic Bond as a cover hex to set up Cry of Pain and Necrosis.

Celestial_Kitsune

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayne Nightfyre
Another option to compliment Cry of Pain is using the Necromancer Sunspear Skill Necrosis, which also causes respectable damage after hexing a foe, although it's just to your target foe. But it is spammable with only a 2 second recharge, and 5 energy cost. Consider using Parasitic Bond as a cover hex to set up Cry of Pain and Necrosis. Add Discord and you have AK-47 lol Cry of Pain's conditional damage is triggered only with Mesmer hex.

Rayne Nightfyre

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Good call. Shrinking armor / Images of Remorse would be the next best choice for a cover hex then. Shrinking armor is great cause after the hex ends, it leaves a condition on them right after that, allowing you to use Necrosis probably until they're dead.

draxynnic

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Shrinking also has the advantage of a faster cast time, and potentially a higher degen depending on the attribute level.