Hey, seriously how do you fix the broken economy of GW?
IMO, they should cut back the drop rate of ectos would be a good start.
like maybe .0001%. make them really "rare" crafting material.
to discourage those 24/7 bot UW farmer. MAKE EM REALLY RARE!!!! rarer than eternal swords!
add new uses for ectos so people can use them. wats the use of ectos if you have all fow armor for all your 30 chars?
if ectos have no use other than fow, then a.net really meant them for trading...
also, cutting back on all gold drops and removing all the inscriptions.
make dyes hard to get too, and remember the days when runes were rare as hell?
make em rare too!@@%@%^#
and lastly, customize the drop for zaishen, that should stop probably half the items in the High-end section.
In for those ready to say that "o GW is for casual players", a collector with decent skin, perfect weapons should be available for cheap, or just green items.
traders make the economy roll not the casual players, what do they care?
and if they do? they are not consider casual anymore.
How to Fix the broken economy of GW
PinoyRurik
sky sliverwolf
ugg another thread on "How to fix....."
Il Fez Il
a pretty stupid one at that...
Loli Krasivaya
Orrrrrr fix loot scaling 
Guild Wars is about to disappear anyway, let the players get their l337 Hall of Monuments and be done with it.
Making drops even rarer = /ragequit from the fanbase.
Customize the drops from Zaishen?
I almost want to say this is a post meant for kitties. O.O
Guild Wars is about to disappear anyway, let the players get their l337 Hall of Monuments and be done with it.
Making drops even rarer = /ragequit from the fanbase.
Customize the drops from Zaishen?
I almost want to say this is a post meant for kitties. O.O
enter_the_zone
Hmm, you sound like on of those who has a couple of stacks of ectos in storage.
Seriously, with all the gold sinks in the game, if you have nothing left to spend money on, move on to another game.
GG you, you're rich. Well done you. It's actually harder to get rich now than it was before factions came out, so nerfing the ecto drop rate would only exacerbate that. And the goldsink titles really are that. 146k before the New Year event, 20k after, all on the lucky title.
Oh and ps, Chaos gloves require 70e, so there is 1 more ecto-sink right there.
And if you have FOW for all your chars, again, well done. But, how many hours did you spend getting it? Having played that many hours, don't you think you've had your value for money from the game? Not all of us have that much time, and the amount of "elite" stuff in the game already severely penalizes the casual player.
Seriously, with all the gold sinks in the game, if you have nothing left to spend money on, move on to another game.
GG you, you're rich. Well done you. It's actually harder to get rich now than it was before factions came out, so nerfing the ecto drop rate would only exacerbate that. And the goldsink titles really are that. 146k before the New Year event, 20k after, all on the lucky title.
Oh and ps, Chaos gloves require 70e, so there is 1 more ecto-sink right there.
And if you have FOW for all your chars, again, well done. But, how many hours did you spend getting it? Having played that many hours, don't you think you've had your value for money from the game? Not all of us have that much time, and the amount of "elite" stuff in the game already severely penalizes the casual player.
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Hey, seriously how do you fix the broken economy of GW?
IMO, they should cut back the drop rate of ectos would be a good start. like maybe .0001%. make them really "rare" crafting material. to discourage those 24/7 bot UW farmer. MAKE EM REALLY RARE!!!! rarer than eternal swords! add new uses for ectos so people can use them. wats the use of ectos if you have all fow armor for all your 30 chars? if ectos have no use other than fow, then a.net really meant them for trading... also, cutting back on all gold drops and removing all the inscriptions. make dyes hard to get too, and remember the days when runes were rare as hell? make em rare too!@@%@%^# and lastly, customize the drop for zaishen, that should stop probably half the items in the High-end section. In for those ready to say that "o GW is for casual players", a collector with decent skin, perfect weapons should be available for cheap, or just green items. traders make the economy roll not the casual players, what do they care? and if they do? they are not consider casual anymore. |
PinoyRurik
man you people are harsh.
neway CLOSE THIS MODS!!!
if you cant take the heat, dont go to guru riverside....
lol close it!pwj,fwjvlf
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neway CLOSE THIS MODS!!!
if you cant take the heat, dont go to guru riverside....
lol close it!pwj,fwjvlf
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Crom The Pale
Sorry but you can't turn back the clock. The economy has been broken since release and will never be set straight.
Merchant pricing is one of the things that led to its downfall. By giving gold items so low a value at merchants players were forced to sell everything to other players untill the market was so saturated with max dmg and perfect mods that nothing except the ultra rare has any value at all any more.
Merchant pricing is one of the things that led to its downfall. By giving gold items so low a value at merchants players were forced to sell everything to other players untill the market was so saturated with max dmg and perfect mods that nothing except the ultra rare has any value at all any more.
arsie
GW should have had some sort of upkeep costs right from the beginning. That'll mean that people do not have as much spare cash sitting around.
And so Anet need not constantly come up with schemes to deflate the market, so that it remains affordable to new players.
Even simple upkeep items like Salvage and ID kits are free with tokens, add to that the fact that collector weapons are so easy to get. No wonder the economy is out of wack. Imagine if everyone did not need to pay rent and got free food and free cars, and still got paid the same. Hell yeah I want diamond encrusted underoos!
And so Anet need not constantly come up with schemes to deflate the market, so that it remains affordable to new players.
Even simple upkeep items like Salvage and ID kits are free with tokens, add to that the fact that collector weapons are so easy to get. No wonder the economy is out of wack. Imagine if everyone did not need to pay rent and got free food and free cars, and still got paid the same. Hell yeah I want diamond encrusted underoos!
ArTy
I don't know why Anet doesn't instantly ban people who carry stacks of armbraces, or at least remove the stacks. Should be easy to search for them and nuke their arses to oblivion.
Sure they got their 5 stacks legitimately...
Sure they got their 5 stacks legitimately...
HuntMaster Avatar
No. Just No.
Reply to ArTy.
That would cause people to quit real quick and would serve to show every single player that anet will screw them over if they want, which would kill the fanbase, the game and anets future plans for making money off games.
Reply to ArTy.
That would cause people to quit real quick and would serve to show every single player that anet will screw them over if they want, which would kill the fanbase, the game and anets future plans for making money off games.
PinoyRurik
well i got my 5 stacks of polar bear? what they gonna do?
i won them all fair and square..
*watcher over the back, big bad a.net coming to get me..."
i won them all fair and square..
*watcher over the back, big bad a.net coming to get me..."
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I don't know why Anet doesn't instantly ban people who carry stacks of armbraces, or at least remove the stacks. Should be easy to search for them and nuke their arses to oblivion.
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The people who damaged the economy the most (anet excluded) are the dupers... having thousands of armbraces is ridiculous.
Shakti
How will these suggestions help the "broken economy"?
You suggest making rare things even more rare...This will make those of us with ecto etc. "richer", and those without "poorer", how does that help? That makes it harder to get "wealth", increasing the gulf between rich and poor. Solves nothing about the economy at all.
Unless your point is in fact to make whatever "wealth" you have worth more. Is that where this is going? I am trying to see logic in your ideas, and that's the only direction it seems to go.
P.S.
If you don't think an idea through and get flamed, take it like a man rather than calling for a close so quickly if you can't take the heat.
You suggest making rare things even more rare...This will make those of us with ecto etc. "richer", and those without "poorer", how does that help? That makes it harder to get "wealth", increasing the gulf between rich and poor. Solves nothing about the economy at all.
Unless your point is in fact to make whatever "wealth" you have worth more. Is that where this is going? I am trying to see logic in your ideas, and that's the only direction it seems to go.
P.S.
If you don't think an idea through and get flamed, take it like a man rather than calling for a close so quickly if you can't take the heat.
Muspellsheimr
My already very low view of average human intelligence just got knocked down another notch...
PinoyRurik
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How will these suggestions help the "broken economy"?
You suggest making rare things even more rare...This will make those of us with ecto etc. "richer", and those without "poorer", how does that help? That makes it harder to get "wealth", increasing the gulf between rich and poor. Solves nothing about the economy at all. Unless your point is in fact to make whatever "wealth" you have worth more. Is that where this is going? I am trying to see logic in your ideas, and that's the only direction it seems to go. P.S. If you don't think an idea through and get flamed, take it like a man rather than calling for a close so quickly if you can't take the heat. |
2nd an economy is stronger when everyone strives to be better, e.g. getting rich, not that everybody is equal. then it would be more like a communist country.
competition among players to get "rare" items would not only motivate them to play the game, not farming, remove those too, but would also be good for the economy?
why? if you look at the US and russia (capitalist state and communist state)
big difference is in the US, competition is fierce, it makes the weak weaker, the strong, stronger, whereas in russia, where everyone is equal, competition is eliminated thus suppressing the economy and maintaining a sub-par economy.
without rare items to get? what should i go for now (btw i dont have stacks of stacks of ectos, only got a few, but have managed to find good drops thru missions and quests that i am willin to sell or trade if something comes up i feel is good.)
doesnt take a genius to know that a good economy have to "key players"
the uber rich- who tries to be more uber rich
the normal people- who tries to be uber rich
the poor people- whos just happy to be alive.
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actually making it take more time to get the crappy skins would just result in higher prices. nothing would change in that respect.
I just wanna have fun, i don't care about impressing people, especially people i don't know. I am not shallow. That doesnt mean i would not like to get the nice items for my own joy. making it harder or longer to get them would just make this game suck even more than it currently does. Some of us, like myself are not willing to sacrifice their lives so we can be the "top dog" on a game.
I am especially sick of people bragging about some item they have like we should all bow down to them. Seems like your trolling. Your idea wouldnt work. it would only speed the death of GW along and make fans worry about how GW2 is going to be handled.
I just wanna have fun, i don't care about impressing people, especially people i don't know. I am not shallow.
That doesnt mean i would not like to get the nice items for my own joy. making it harder or longer to get them would just make this game suck even more than it currently does. Some of us, like myself are not willing to sacrifice their lives so we can be the "top dog" on a game.I am especially sick of people bragging about some item they have like we should all bow down to them. Seems like your trolling. Your idea wouldnt work. it would only speed the death of GW along and make fans worry about how GW2 is going to be handled.
carnage-runner
I'm suprised no ones in here defending themselves with all these allegations of duping and stacks of arms saying YEA W/E JUST CUZ IM PRO DOESNT MEAN SHIT! But w/e, the guru economy is gone, you'd need to make a huge huge cash sink like ummm.... Gold buys you things that last a long time and make you look good. Oh wait they already did that .. TITTLEs. Economy is gone all they can do is make it a little better.
Macks Mistress
You have got to be kidding me.....
Dividing the player base like that is only going to make things worse, and also the qq threads on this forum would be ten fold. No thanks.
Oh but thanks for the entertaining read, I needed a laugh
Dividing the player base like that is only going to make things worse, and also the qq threads on this forum would be ten fold. No thanks.
Oh but thanks for the entertaining read, I needed a laugh
Alexandra-Sweet
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PinoyRurik
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You have got to be kidding me.....
Deviding the player base like that is only going to make things worse, and also the qq threads on this forum would be ten fold. No thanks. Oh but thanks for the entertaining read, I needed a laugh |
mack mistress are you equal with bill gates? probably no right? whats your goal in life? to be as rich as bill gates? well that would drive the economy upwards not downwards...
wow, i feel im defending this myself! BRING IT ON! I GOT ALL NIGHT!
kratimas
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Hey, seriously how do you fix the broken economy of GW?
IMO, they should cut back the drop rate of ectos would be a good start. like maybe .0001%. make them really "rare" crafting material. to discourage those 24/7 bot UW farmer. MAKE EM REALLY RARE!!!! rarer than eternal swords! |
Anyway this is a pretty dumb statement "discourage those 24/7 bot UW farmer". Why would changing the drop rate discourage them -- They are BOTS, they don't care.
All this would do is discourage real players even further, who are trying to get what they need for armor or what not.
Sorry this thread:
/FAIL
Krat
HuntMaster Avatar
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dividing the players?worse? how? the uber rich wanted to be uber rich, the casual players? well if theyr casual players do they really care what weapons do they get?no. thats what green are for.
wow, i feel im defending this myself! BRING IT ON! I GOT ALL NIGHT! |
You are a troll. Go play GW and stop trolling.
This thread really did Fail. /unsigned - Moved to trash bin and Forgotten.
Alexandra-Sweet
Anyone noticed his profession? 
1 up and 2 down
Ehh, the economy was broken before loot scaling. Now that loot scaling has been implemented everything is dropping back to the price it should be.
Macks Mistress
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dividing the players?worse? how? the uber rich wanted to be uber rich, the casual players? well if theyr casual players do they really care what weapons do they get?no. thats what green are for.
mack mistress are you equal with bill gates? probably no right? whats your goal in life? to be as rich as bill gates? well that would drive the economy upwards not downwards... wow, i feel im defending this myself! BRING IT ON! I GOT ALL NIGHT! |
You lost me when you started talking about communists.
PinoyRurik
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First the Top part. I am an average casual gamer and i care what items i have, i like having stuff i find "good" and having 100k+ is never bad. So your opinion of average gamers just failed. Moving on to the bottom part.
You are a troll. Go play GW and stop trolling. This thread really did Fail. /unsigned - Moved to trash bin and Forgotten. |
man im feeling the burn, o well, thats what preparation H is for.
o ya im a troll? nice.
Biostem
There is an unlimited supply of all in-game items. The only limiting factor is the number of chances these items have to drop and time. Since we're talking about a game that's been played by 1000's of people, pretty much nonstop for a few years, the market is going to be quite saturated.
In real life, it is scarcity and demand the drives prices up; neither of which truly exist in GW. You want to drive prices up? Then you have to set a finite number of an item in circulation, and only release them back into circulation once some have been used up. Could you imagine how awful things would be if there could only be X ectos in existence at any given time, and how ridiculous their price would be?
In real life, it is scarcity and demand the drives prices up; neither of which truly exist in GW. You want to drive prices up? Then you have to set a finite number of an item in circulation, and only release them back into circulation once some have been used up. Could you imagine how awful things would be if there could only be X ectos in existence at any given time, and how ridiculous their price would be?
PinoyRurik
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The thing is my dear, this is a game. I could not care less about your comparisons. Also don't assume you know anything about me, it makes you look silly.
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when in doubt wiki it.
o ya economy is economy. game or real life. its the definetion.
1v100000 FTW
Macks Mistress
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ajmorgan25
If you do all that, people will complain because they don't have any gold/items
Malice Black
Nothing will change. The rich stay rich, the poor stay poor.
PinoyRurik
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I take it you have stacks and stacks of them you paid way to much for, now you can't your money back
Anyway this is a pretty dumb statement "discourage those 24/7 bot UW farmer". Why would changing the drop rate discourage them -- They are BOTS, they don't care. All this would do is discourage real players even further, who are trying to get what they need for armor or what not. Sorry this thread: /FAIL Krat |
armor? last time i checked you could get cheap max armor... docks? collector in proph? unless you want a FOW, if your a casual gamer 80 sumthing ectos or 120 sumthing shards...good luck with that... you cant get those doing missions...
PinoyRurik
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wow... any +1
more please!
Macks Mistress
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thats why you gotta start going to school, you know them too right?
when in doubt wiki it. o ya economy is economy. game or real life. its the definetion. 1v100000 FTW |
Take the hint and get out troll, you really arn't welcome here.
I'm done, have fun tearing him apart guys.
PinoyRurik
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Again, assuming things about me.
Take the hint and get out troll, you really arn't welcome here. I'm done, have fun tearing him apart guys. |
not welcome here? maybe in ur country but in mine, i have freedom...
yum
Wow, this guy must be addicted to " I R LEGEND."
Shakti
Economy is not economy in game or life. Real life has finite available resources, a game has unlimited supply. We aren't talking food/heat/shelter here, we are talking ectos and other pixels. There is a virtually unlimited supply of these things, 24/7 for years now. There are traders for sales and purchases in every major outpost.
Even if the drop rate of ecto for example is decreased, there are still how many in existence? Yes, the price would go way up, but the result would be rich owners and many more ppl running UW farm builds. Eventually, they'd be right where they are now again. The main reason the have value left after how farmed they are is a)some leave circulation with crafting and b) ppl tend to sell private and stash them to use as currency. If ppl didn't use em as currency, they'd be much lower anyway. People would probably just use something else.
Your communism argument is not terribly thought out tbh. I'm not proposing everyone be equal, you were proposing what seemed to me to be make the rich richer and poor poorer. Not seeing that as any kind of solution to what you see as "broken" doesn't make me Soviet Russia lol.
Yes, we need more gold sinks. I'd love to see armors/weapons etc I want or need to work for again. I just think your "solution"...isn't a solution at all.
Even if the drop rate of ecto for example is decreased, there are still how many in existence? Yes, the price would go way up, but the result would be rich owners and many more ppl running UW farm builds. Eventually, they'd be right where they are now again. The main reason the have value left after how farmed they are is a)some leave circulation with crafting and b) ppl tend to sell private and stash them to use as currency. If ppl didn't use em as currency, they'd be much lower anyway. People would probably just use something else.
Your communism argument is not terribly thought out tbh. I'm not proposing everyone be equal, you were proposing what seemed to me to be make the rich richer and poor poorer. Not seeing that as any kind of solution to what you see as "broken" doesn't make me Soviet Russia lol.
Yes, we need more gold sinks. I'd love to see armors/weapons etc I want or need to work for again. I just think your "solution"...isn't a solution at all.
PinoyRurik
no one wants to talk? i guess this is really over. we should have a debate, im not saying riverside, thread.
well, time to go back in doing my college essay.
thats all folks...
well, time to go back in doing my college essay.
thats all folks...
Muspellsheimr
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