CoF nerf

Yayo Goldigger

Yayo Goldigger

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

[Rage]

Mo/D

Looks like the CoF has been nerfed with the latest update, they gave the Crypt Banshee's Reveral of Damage, so goodnight smiter...

Veripare

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada, Ontario

I ran CoF last night and there was no problem. Was there an update this morning?

evilseabass

evilseabass

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yayo Goldigger
Looks like the CoF has been nerfed with the latest update, they gave the Crypt Banshee's Reveral of Damage, so goodnight smiter...
They've always had that...There hasnt been any change to CoF.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Um no the smiter never got damaged from Reversal.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

Reversal now targets properly (hits the smiter).. thats all.. still doable according to people I know.

The Bard

The Bard

Metal Machine

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

true, there was a change to RoD but you can still run it, just have to make some slight changes. failed todays first run horribly lol, then we figured it out a way to do it. just heal the smiter..

BulletStopper

BulletStopper

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Staring At my computer

Knights an Heroes

Mo/

Unless it changed in todays update, I didn't notice. Did a CoF run this am.

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

But im betting that CoF prices will be raised

shrouded^god

shrouded^god

IGN: J C A C H E

Join Date: Sep 2006

843

[Liar]

Still running it...just bring someone smart enough to heal the smiter a little...GG

vixro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Stranded Among New Players [SANP]

Mo/

Just takes some really minor heals on the smiter. Nothing that serious. You can drop purge signet for a heal.

angmar_nite

angmar_nite

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

[SNOW] of [YUM]

E/

just have a party member bring orison or something...

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

How is this a nerf? They fixed another bug with Reversal of Damage, correct?
Still, a line in the update notes would be nice; something like:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Update - Tuesday February 12
Fixed a bug with Reversal of Damage incorrectly damaging the target of Holy Wrath and Retribution rather than the caster.
At least, I presume that is the nature of the update.

BLOODGOAT

BLOODGOAT

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

long a

Mo/

[skill]Signet of Rejuvenation[/skill][skill]Signet of Devotion[/skill]

???
profit

Deviant Angel

Deviant Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

On a boat!

Homeless.

Mo/

Freak out much?

I just did a run and I took enough damage to maybe require a bandaid (if you have OCD and insist your health be 100% at all times)... but not my own personal healer. My only death was the result of a blonde moment.

How on earth are you guys taking enough damage to justify taking a third person?

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Meh. Never noticed such a problem with runs, mainly since I was bored and spammed WoH on the smiter whenever the smiter did BiP or otherwise took damage.

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Get someone to cast Vital Blessing on your hero?

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Purge Signet is expendable.

Use [skill]signet of devotion[/skill] on your smiters bar for himself.

The only reason people cry now is because the smiter, god forbid, since they get paid half the money, even though the 600 works much harder and gets only half, they have to do a little work.

If you are failing because of the update, and blame your failure soley on the update, you should not be farming with a monk.

Yayo Goldigger

Yayo Goldigger

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

[Rage]

Mo/D

If that's aimed at me, I didn't post here to whine about failing/anet/lag/the price of petrol. I posted to inform people and start a topic of discussion as to what can be done to overcome this.

I don't take parties into CoF, I do the run with just me and my hero smiter.

Meh I won't bother my arse next time.

Rothaga

Rothaga

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

D/W

And people replied, they were saying that its still not that hard.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yayo Goldigger
If that's aimed at me, I didn't post here to whine about failing/anet/lag/the price of petrol. I posted to inform people and start a topic of discussion as to what can be done to overcome this.

I don't take parties into CoF, I do the run with just me and my hero smiter.

Meh I won't bother my arse next time.
I'm sorry if you throught that was directed at you. It was directed at all ther whiners in Doomlore that I see complaining about the run, and those on the forums that think the sky is falling because of this. However, my post does tell how to overcome it with ease.

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

Ironically, running a non-retribution smite (which I have for ages, I prefer Balthazars Spirit) seems more attractive now.

Yayo Goldigger

Yayo Goldigger

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

[Rage]

Mo/D

Apology accepted You Can't See Me. Well I've been messing around with builds, as I say it's only myself and a hero smiter that do CoF, so there's no one there to heal. My bf came up with the idea of using Well of The Profane, but by the time I've casted it, Tahl's already dead. Also Signet of Devotion takes too long to recharge, and by then she's dead. Does this happen to anyone else or is it just me?

vixro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Stranded Among New Players [SANP]

Mo/

Works just fine with a human smiter. Just drop 2 points out of prot and put it in divine with divine favor rune and run sig of devotion. The heal is plenty for a human, though a smiter might take a little more damage (due to having to run 2 big runes without being able to just change the headpiece or the ability to swap armor after you've casted the enchants to ones without -75 life).


The damage is honestly pretty inconsequential even when attacking multiple groups. The reversal of damage tends to activate on retribution over holy wrath. Plus if you use LOD when you run like I do (sacrificing life attunement), wanding the banshee or using LoD takes the damage away from the smiter and onto the 600 which helps too.


Erik the Majestic.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

nothing really badly to me
just ask your customers to bring some healing for the smiter and done
np gg

enmitee

enmitee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

[Liar]

Rt/R

failed attempt to qq a nerf.:}

englitdaudelin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

East Coast

Soldier's Union [SU]

N/Me

It's entirely contrary to the two-man team, but....Two of my guildies run a typical 600-smiter team, and let me and my ranger tag along to share in the fun and the loot. I just pack a pair of heals in case our 600 ditzes out or over-aggroes, and try to keep myself out of harm's way. Shouldn't be a problem for me to be a little more active.

MarlinBackna

MarlinBackna

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

[TAM]

W/

I just finished running CoF on my 600 Rit / Smiter, and I tell you that this nerf isn't really all that bad for me. Odgen's health never really went down that much at all; he was always at least 3/4 of his health and he has no healing. I guess it must be my particular rit build, but I really saw no difference at all. Not enough to give Ogden a healing spell (I would rather him bring Rebirth )

My build:
16 Restoration, 12 Protection
[skill]Vengeful was Khanhei[/skill][skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Spirit Bond[/skill][skill]Light of Deldrimor[/skill][skill]Essence Bond[/skill][skill]Life Attunement[/skill][skill]Vital Blessing[/skill]
Ogden's build:
16 Divine Favor, 12 Smiting
[skill]Blessed Signet[/skill][skill]Spell Breaker[/skill][skill]Blood Ritual[/skill][skill]Retribution[/skill][skill]Holy Wrath[/skill][skill]Balthazar's Spirit[/skill][skill]Blessed Aura[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill] (He also has 20% enchanting mod for SB)

vixro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Stranded Among New Players [SANP]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tela
lol erik you are LEET pve player. hahaha so funny hearing you talk about how "leet" you are in pvp,but all you are is a pve massive grind farmer. spamming 123 was always your forte.

I don't remember playing in pvp other than fort aspenwood or RA within the last couple of months, what are you even referring to? I can't remember the last time I said I was leet at pvp, especially referring to RA or FAW neither of which actually require much skill. Try to leave the flame baiting for something else or at least keep it on topic. *shrug* Had nothing to do with being leet I was sharing my tactics.


Also, you don't spam 123? I always thought it was smart to put your 3 most used skills as 1 2 3 because it's by wasd, do you use 678?

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Jeez when I get a run as a war I just max healing prayers and take Glimmer of Light...smiter stays alive just fine.

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

I wouldn't call it a nerf as so much as a clean up. They are several people that run CoF that shouldn't be running, you know the type, rude, pass up chest, die numerous times and still demand full pay. I actually heard a story where the runner died over five times and still wanted full pay. Try to remember the people you are running are the customers, they are always right.

Then the smiters are the worse, not 16/16, don't have B.I.P. or any kind of energy giver, dont have Light of Deldrimor (spelling).

The nerf doesn't hurt running that much for me because I have the hero run a heal signet and players understand what is going on and one or two will bring mending, it is enough to keep the hero alive.

My biggest problem is that I farm with two computers and now I have to worry about the smite computer dying too. Going to be fun.