I know that dual negative damage stats on a sheild is nerfed from Tyria. However - are req 7 and req 8 max/gold sheilds from Tyria nerfed as well? I know hardly anyone farms tyria anymore (for rares at least) - but are these really gone, or are they just not popping up because no one's farming them anymore?
Thanks gang.
do r7/r8 shields still drop in Tyria?
Siadena
deluxe
r8 still drops, r7 don't.
arcanemacabre
Nah, but r7 15al shields do drop, and 1 point off isn't that big of a deal.
Lady Yuna
But if you're going for perfection.....then r8 16 would be like....a must have.
Slaine
imho r7 do still drop.
Biostem
I've gotten r8, AL16 shields w/ some regularity, but most were white, and oddly enough, found in factions. A r7, well, I've gotten 1 r7 AL15, but otherwise they're either like r10 AL16 or r8 AL14...
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by deluxe
r8 still drops, r7 don't.
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Avatar Exico
Req 8 Shields Tryian still drop but Req 7 dont anymore. Only Req 7 shields drop are non max ones. Some non max req 7 Shields will be dual modded. Iv gotten a Req 6-7, 14 armor dual dmg mod Shield off the Treebranch monsters on the old Ettin Rune Farming
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
on the contrary I dont know about sheilds.But weapons do. Of course theres those that will say they dont drop anymore so that people will forget about them and not go looking for them
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manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
And there are those that say they do exist without providing proof. But hey!
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Crom The Pale
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And yet wheres the proof that anet said they removed them there isnt. So whats your point again. If it wasnt for Retarded flamers the thread on where to look for them woudnt have been closed and would have had more people actually looking for them. More people looking means a higher chance for them to be found.
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That is proof enough that they are nolonger droping.
Unless you can post and UNEDITED screen shot with a true R7 weapon that has dropped since GWEN came out, showing some GWEN heros in the party would demonstrate date proof or a BMP weapon.
If you do not have proof stop posting your fantasy dreams and wishes.
kel77
How's do we knoes if it's unedited though?
spun ducky
I strongly believe they don't drop anymore based on the supply and demand concept as seen in the high end forum. I own quite a few req 7 items and buy them as often as I can yet with each passing month fewer and fewer are for sale along with those for sale are ones just being passed around since I know quite a few of the other collectors. I can't state this as 100% fact they don't drop anymore but its a pretty good observation that suggests they do not drop anymore.
N E D M
req 8 definitely drop
as far as i know, in tyria, shields with odd double mods can still drop (-2-2, -2-3, etc)
as far as i know, in tyria, shields with odd double mods can still drop (-2-2, -2-3, etc)
Siadena
Hmm - thanks for the info gang - here's a thought that just popped into my head. With all the bergen farming and Sephis drops, I haven't heard or seen a q8 drop from there "since" factions days - and of course sephis drop all the time and then some. Obviously they used to drop pre-factions and teh q8 15^50's are still worth some big coin where the q9's are pennies. Maybe that does add more proof that they are gone.
I dunno...just more evidence I guess, not concrete though....
I dunno...just more evidence I guess, not concrete though....
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
1000's have been looking for them and have never posted a single screen shot of a recent drop.
That is proof enough that they are nolonger droping. Unless you can post and UNEDITED screen shot with a true R7 weapon that has dropped since GWEN came out, showing some GWEN heros in the party would demonstrate date proof or a BMP weapon. If you do not have proof stop posting your fantasy dreams and wishes. |
Slaine
people say the swamp club no longer drops.
but it does.
but it does.
MirkoTeran
manitoba1073, once again you have absolutely no proofs of req7 still dropping but you are still pushing the topic.
spun ducky
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lol nice picture now wait for those that will say its either fake old all the other nonsense BS they try to come up with.
Yeap and if there not looking in the right spots they will never find them. Kinda like looking for the needle in a haysack by the barn while your still in the middle of the cornfield. |
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by spun ducky
I have no idea what those screen shots are suppose to prove I can do the same thing with any of my req 7 and dual dmg reduction shields...
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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
manitoba1073, once again you have absolutely no proofs of req7 still dropping but you are still pushing the topic.
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kerpall
R7's drop from mostly tyria? How many full outposts (other than hot springs, and other popular 55 routes) do you see full of farmers? Just like the Swamp club. The swamp club is rare, so if 1/5000 people a day get one, then thats 1 every few days. but if only 10 people play in that explorable a day, that makes it seem much,much,much more rarer. And with that little people farming them, the odds of anyone getting one are very slim.
until Anet announces "No More of these <item name here> items" , i'm going to assume that simply less people farm that place, making drop rate much rarer.
(although i do believe that the duel mods are gone)
Summarized: More people farm that place = more of these "Rares" turning up every week
Deserted outpost = Getting one of these "Rares" is highly unlikely, and may present itself as "impossible". But i'm sure if people could farm (Hells Precipice), there would be more (Swamp clubs) floating around.
EDIT: this is quote im basing reply against:
until Anet announces "No More of these <item name here> items" , i'm going to assume that simply less people farm that place, making drop rate much rarer.
(although i do believe that the duel mods are gone)
Summarized: More people farm that place = more of these "Rares" turning up every week
Deserted outpost = Getting one of these "Rares" is highly unlikely, and may present itself as "impossible". But i'm sure if people could farm (Hells Precipice), there would be more (Swamp clubs) floating around.
EDIT: this is quote im basing reply against:
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I strongly believe they don't drop anymore based on the supply and demand concept as seen in the high end forum. I own quite a few req 7 items and buy them as often as I can yet with each passing month fewer and fewer are for sale along with those for sale are ones just being passed around since I know quite a few of the other collectors. I can't state this as 100% fact they don't drop anymore but its a pretty good observation that suggests they do not drop anymore.
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spun ducky
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
Its a SS of exactly what it looks like. its not a old SS either as you can see his BMP weapons in it. However the only thing it dont show is when or where it dropped and I plan on asking him just that when he gets online.
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R7's drop from mostly tyria? How many full outposts (other than hot springs, and other popular 55 routes) do you see full of farmers? Just like the Swamp club. The swamp club is rare, so if 1/5000 people a day get one, then thats 1 every few days. but if only 10 people play in that explorable a day, that makes it seem much,much,much more rarer. And with that little people farming them, the odds of anyone getting one are very slim.
until Anet announces "No More of these <item name here> items" , i'm going to assume that simply less people farm that place, making drop rate much rarer. (although i do believe that the duel mods are gone) Summarized: More people farm that place = more of these "Rares" turning up every week Deserted outpost = Getting one of these "Rares" is highly unlikely, and may present itself as "impossible". But i'm sure if people could farm (Hells Precipice), there would be more (Swamp clubs) floating around. EDIT: this is quote im basing reply against: |
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by spun ducky
I can take a SS of several of my Req 7 items in inventory with BMP weapons and heroes etc doesn't mean they dropped recently so I will say it again prove that they drop or stop posting this bs. I also wouldn't mind being proven wrong but so far I would say my hypothesis seems to play out far more accurate than your claims.
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spun ducky
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
yeap your right about faking SS anyone can do that. That was why I put that thread n the farming section like I did so that people like you can get your own evidence but the retarded flamers got it closed instead of getting banned like they should have. Even if people do post SS no ones really going to actually believe it till it drops for them. Ive seen one drop for me so it shows your claims as BS so how about you stop before getting the OP's thread locked for the flaming and trolling. Im waiting for your proof that anet stopped them. As was pointed out by the post before yours I think you need to read that one alittle more closely. I even showed why they are even more rarer in later campaigns and the expansion. However you are allowed to believe what you want.
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manitoba1073
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I like how you claim that I have no proof as I said I had no absolute proof I was going by observations that suggest they do not drop anymore. I unlike you stated a very clear theory as to why they don't drop anymore while your statement is a simple I had one drop for me but oh I forgot there is absolutely no proof. The situation you are creating is hear say unlike me stating my theory backed up with observations and possible reasons behind said thought.
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Caveat Emptor
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yeap your right about faking SS anyone can do that. That was why I put that thread n the farming section like I did so that people like you can get your own evidence but the retarded flamers got it closed instead of getting banned like they should have. Even if people do post SS no ones really going to actually believe it till it drops for them. Ive seen one drop for me so it shows your claims as BS so how about you stop before getting the OP's thread locked for the flaming and trolling. Im waiting for your proof that anet stopped them. As was pointed out by the post before yours I think you need to read that one alittle more closely. I even showed why they are even more rarer in later campaigns and the expansion. However you are allowed to believe what you want.
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Req 7 weapons / shields with max stats have not dropped since early factions
Omega Precept
I have not had a req 7 drop in sometime, but I did sell a req 7 Truncheon (gold max damage)to the merch because someone on GWguru told me it was worth nothing. I was unaware these kind drops were so rare as per I have not been playing for a year.
Earth
If this turns into another one of those topics with manitoba1073 claming r7's still exist and everyone else saying they don't - I will close this.
Carry on now.
Carry on now.
thehoweller
I will say with utter certainty that R7, max damage/defense items DO NOT drop anymore because of one reason...Manitoba defends the position. Not only does he "never" provide proof of their current existence, but he continually denies rational arguements in a purely religious fashion.
Like the last "R7s Still Exist" thread that Manitoba created, close this one. It's a dead issue that will "always" be proven wrong because they no longer drop. Give up the religious debate, zealots; until you can post a picture with a date and time that are more current than June 11th of 2006 (random picked date by me, shut up). Until then, please stop, Manitoba...It's senseless.
Past that, what else is there to say? R8 Max Items drop.
Like the last "R7s Still Exist" thread that Manitoba created, close this one. It's a dead issue that will "always" be proven wrong because they no longer drop. Give up the religious debate, zealots; until you can post a picture with a date and time that are more current than June 11th of 2006 (random picked date by me, shut up). Until then, please stop, Manitoba...It's senseless.
Past that, what else is there to say? R8 Max Items drop.
Ewa Kirch
The last r7 max gold shield I had drop was early factions (I still use it!). The last r7 gold I had drop was an axe last week in tyria - which got me very excited until I noticed it was non-max damage!
Akroma Angel NL
i have had a few r7 bought 2 items and got 1 myself ar req 7 fire offhand
but i think celstial shields can still drop r7 with normal mode
but dont know for sure, its not proven
but i think celstial shields can still drop r7 with normal mode
but dont know for sure, its not proven
The Meth
You can never prove that something doesn't drop anymore, short of asking whoever programmed the drop system to tell you its details. The fact is that maybe 1% of all guild wars players read these forums, for all we know the other 99% are blissfully unaware that the r7 item they just got is valuable and merched it. They are very, very rare. Lets leave it at that.
kerpall
Most people nowadays farm in GW:en, and Nightfall. Inscribable items being more "popular" to farmers than non-inscr due to vast modding capabilities.
Very few people farm in Factions, and Prophecies. So you take a VERY rare drop rate, and Reduce the amount of people farming, what do you get? an Even More Rare drop rate. I have been convince that duel-mod shields no longer drop, but i do not see anyone here quoting Gaile, or anyone else associated with Guild Wars saying "r7's no longer exist as drops from mobs".
As far as I am concerned, with the Lack of farmers / chest runners in Prophecies and Factions , that is the reason fewer and fewer of these drops show up. Also like stated above, NOT everyone uses Guru. There are plenty of forums out there, and unless you want to translate all the German, French, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Polish, and etc forums.... I wouldn't be as to so ignorant as assuming "just because you didnt get one recently" that they no longer drop.
Maybe if people started to farm more of these older locations, more would drop? Just a thought. Because I think we are all smart enough to comprehend that: "If No One Farms There, How Can You Expect To Still Get r7 Drops?"...
Drops come from slain enemies and chests. If you do not slay those enemies or open those chests, you can not expect gold items to just appear in your inventory... -_-
Very few people farm in Factions, and Prophecies. So you take a VERY rare drop rate, and Reduce the amount of people farming, what do you get? an Even More Rare drop rate. I have been convince that duel-mod shields no longer drop, but i do not see anyone here quoting Gaile, or anyone else associated with Guild Wars saying "r7's no longer exist as drops from mobs".
As far as I am concerned, with the Lack of farmers / chest runners in Prophecies and Factions , that is the reason fewer and fewer of these drops show up. Also like stated above, NOT everyone uses Guru. There are plenty of forums out there, and unless you want to translate all the German, French, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Polish, and etc forums.... I wouldn't be as to so ignorant as assuming "just because you didnt get one recently" that they no longer drop.
Maybe if people started to farm more of these older locations, more would drop? Just a thought. Because I think we are all smart enough to comprehend that: "If No One Farms There, How Can You Expect To Still Get r7 Drops?"...
Drops come from slain enemies and chests. If you do not slay those enemies or open those chests, you can not expect gold items to just appear in your inventory... -_-
Slaine
swamp clubs don't drop in Hells Precipice btw.
spun ducky
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swamp clubs don't drop in Hells Precipice btw.
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kerpall
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hells_precipice
theres a whole thread on this somewhere in guru... How swamp clubs drop from Portal Wraths, and the chests around them.
theres a whole thread on this somewhere in guru... How swamp clubs drop from Portal Wraths, and the chests around them.
the_jos
I can prove that req7 items dropped in Factions, since I have a max Factions offhand that does not drop in Tyria.
The thing I can't prove is the moment it dropped. Could be before or after the introduction of Nightfall.
I might have the screenshot somewhere, that might give me a hint.
But not sure on that.
And it does not prove anything to others.
There are several problems with proving this.
First, we don't know if they drop as long as there is no screenshot.
Second, there is a very limited number of areas the item could drop.
Third, lootscaling decreased the potential for drops, since those areas are mainly 6-person areas (I think).
Fourth, not many people that use forums play those areas anymore.
And even less pay attention to the white items, since they should be easiest to find. Most go straight to merchant.
In the end, we don't know atm.
It might be that they still drop, a screenshot will appear someday.
Or they might not drop anymore, so no screenshot will ever appear.
But no screenshot does not mean they don't drop anymore...
The thing I can't prove is the moment it dropped. Could be before or after the introduction of Nightfall.
I might have the screenshot somewhere, that might give me a hint.
But not sure on that.
And it does not prove anything to others.
There are several problems with proving this.
First, we don't know if they drop as long as there is no screenshot.
Second, there is a very limited number of areas the item could drop.
Third, lootscaling decreased the potential for drops, since those areas are mainly 6-person areas (I think).
Fourth, not many people that use forums play those areas anymore.
And even less pay attention to the white items, since they should be easiest to find. Most go straight to merchant.
In the end, we don't know atm.
It might be that they still drop, a screenshot will appear someday.
Or they might not drop anymore, so no screenshot will ever appear.
But no screenshot does not mean they don't drop anymore...
Crom The Pale
I personally think the only post needed now in this thread is a screen shot.
No other personal oppinions really matter at this piont, either you can post proof that they do indeed drop now or you can't.
No other personal oppinions really matter at this piont, either you can post proof that they do indeed drop now or you can't.