~Nerf Central~

Guardian Of Legend

Guardian Of Legend

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I ran CoF with my 600 Rit, and noticed the attempt to nerf CoF yesterday too…my smite hero was taking damage. Replacing one of his skills for a self heal pretty much did the trick. It wasn’t hard coming up with the solution. I hate it when they do stuff to piss the gamers off. They make it tough for the *players* to have something great in the game and make it easier for non-gamers like *bots* to have their way like spamming “selling gold” via Temp accounts. Things like this cause games to die off, the gamer community just gives up with the game and finds hopefully something new or more promising…I really don’t want this to happen to guild wars. But if it becomes nerf central of the gaming industry, I will have to look for a new game again. Sighs…

Anet says they listen to us, the gamers but I am the only one feeling a little lied too lol?

“In addition to designing the game and logging hundreds of hours each in the three Guild Wars campaigns and the recent expansion, staff members read fan forums and observe PvP matches on a daily basis. They also attend various live gaming events and hold tournaments for both the novice player and the top-ranked competitive guilds. The decisions charting the course for Guild Wars are not arbitrary choices made by an isolated marketing department; rather, the entire gaming community, including players and developers alike, has a voice in the future of Guild Wars.”- Quoted from http://www.arena.net/about.php

“The team members speak a variety of languages, which—with the common bond of a love for games—helps them understand the needs of the global gaming community, and allows them to listen and respond to feedback from fans around the world…”- Quoted from http://www.arena.net/about.php

Well…listen to us now Anet, stop nerfing things that us the *players* do to make money or have fun in the game and focus on the more important things like the corrections you guys haven’t made including clinches, bots, etc…

Thank you for the time you took to read this and hearing me out. Peace.

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

About the CoF "nerf"
It's not a nerf, it's a skill/bug fix.

Heikofant

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

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yep, I agree

it's not a nerf, its a skill fix.

I wish anet would fix all skills to there descriptions -.-

cebalrai

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

Mature Gaming Association

Me/E

IMO it's supposed to be a team game. Crying that you can't solo when that clearly wasn't the designers' intent doesn't get any sympathy from me.

And yes, it was a bug fix.

And yes, you made an unnecessary thread because you didn't take the time to look at the other CoF thread right below this one.

Guardian Of Legend

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Join Date: Jul 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by blurmedia
About the CoF "nerf"
It's not a nerf, it's a skill/bug fix.
Then tell me this, what was their motive for the “skill/bug fix”? Who benefits from it?

Avarre

Avarre

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

ANet should leave duping in the game as it allows players to have fun.

Your logic is terrible.

Witchblade

Witchblade

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Join Date: May 2005

Cool, a nerf

zwei2stein

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by blurmedia
About the CoF "nerf"
It's not a nerf, it's a skill/bug fix.
Plus, even someone as smart as OP found workaround pretty fast.

This is basically non-issue. So what, smiters build changed little, it still works.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian Of Legend
Then tell me this, what was their motive for the “skill/bug fix”? Who benefits from it?
So that stuff like Ancestors Rage, etc returns reversal damage. Obvious reason is to fix bug in skill to make it work like it was described.

Guardian Of Legend

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cebalrai
IMO it's supposed to be a team game. Crying that you can't solo when that clearly wasn't the designers' intent doesn't get any sympathy from me.

And yes, it was a bug fix.

I can still run it, just blows me away when they create a “skill/bug fix” whichs benefits whom?

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian Of Legend
Then tell me this, what was their motive for the “skill/bug fix”? Who benefits from it?
Well, logically, if we can fix it by putting a self heal in, us. Since the botter smiters will be dying for about a week before they realise Which means more drops for us.

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian Of Legend
Then tell me this, what was their motive for the “skill/bug fix”? Who benefits from it?
- Are you stupid? When things are broken they should be fixed! Who benefits from it is irrelevant.

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian Of Legend
I can still run it, just blows me away when they create a “skill/bug fix” whichs benefits whom?
Maybe Anet have changed it so that someone can gain huge amounts of cash really quick just like the Mini Pig --> celestial Pig conspiricy, and the disconnecting people/ travel anywhere conspiricy that Gaile was behind.

LOL at being offended by the quoted post, can't wait till you read mine or visit the world

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

He does have a point though, it was broken they fixed it. If everyone benifited or know one did, who cares

MirkoTeran

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Mo/

Another pure-gold thread.

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

I agree with the majority, they saw an exploit that was being used, researched it and had a programmer fix it. They tested it, it looked correct and they released the correction. I do not see the problem? This is what a software company does.

Guardian Of Legend

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Masseur
I agree with the majority, they saw an exploit that was being used, researched it and had a programmer fix it. They tested it, it looked correct and they released the correction. I do not see the problem? This is what a software company does.
Ok your right, everytime they “nerf” or “skill/bug fix” things in the game it benefits us and we are all happy! Man it cant get better than this, oh wait do I hear a Ursan nerf coming?

Guardian Of Legend

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cebalrai
IMO it's supposed to be a team game. Crying that you can't solo when that clearly wasn't the designers' intent doesn't get any sympathy from me.

And yes, it was a bug fix.

And yes, you made an unnecessary thread because you didn't take the time to look at the other CoF thread right below this one.
I used the CoF “skill/bug fix” as an example to nerfs in general. Take the time to read the title of the post.

Free Runner

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian Of Legend

Thank you for the time you took to read this and hearing me out. Peace.
I want my time back.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10255224

Pleikki

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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mm Theres not single skill nerfed that i would mind i can live without em? :d everything too easy sucks everyting not so nice is great ;D

Guardian Of Legend

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Free Runner
Again…I used the CoF “skill/bug fix” as a recent example to nerfs in general. Please post things related to the subject. Thanks. Sighs

cebalrai

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

Mature Gaming Association

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian Of Legend
Ok your right, everytime they “nerf” or “skill/bug fix” things in the game it benefits us and we are all happy! Man it cant get better than this, oh wait do I hear a Ursan nerf coming?
Yes you hear an Ursan big fix coming if you have evidence that it wasn't working as intended.

You might wonder why the bug existed in the first place. You shouldn't wonder why the bug was fixed though. Well, I guess it's up to you if you want to rant about a bug being fixed, but there's really nothing for anyone to respond to.

end thread???

Free Runner

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Related to the subject? all i see is a QQ thread. I was giving you a link to a thread that has a higher chance of not being ensnared by cat pictures.

quickmonty

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Join Date: May 2005

Skill balance and correction (aka: nerf) has been around since the beginning of the game. Some adopt and overcome. Those that can't complain about it. (much like in real life)

pygar

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KORM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian Of Legend
Ok your right, everytime they “nerf” or “skill/bug fix” things in the game it benefits us and we are all happy! Man it cant get better than this, oh wait do I hear a Ursan nerf coming?
Actually from what I read around these forums, an Ursan Blessing nerf has been long called for and would be cheered by many here. Indifferent myself, I dont use PvE skills- nor do I use cheesy Invincimonk builds.

Guardian Of Legend

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Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
Skill balance and correction (aka: nerf) has been around since the beginning of the game. Some adopt and overcome. Those that can't complain about it. (much like in real life)
Yeah adaptation, then boom headshot! Another nerf rofl. Oh you’re a Elite Guru member. *Steps away quietly terrified staring at shiny medal*

???Skill balance and correction (aka: nerf)???

To nerf is gaming jargon that roughly means "to weaken" or "to make less effective."

Numa Pompilius

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You know, originally "nerf" meant "to make something less powerful". As in turning a +5 double-bladed axe of DEADLY DOOM into a soft nerf-bat.

Now "nerf" means "any change I don't like". Even when it's really a boost, like in this case.

Personally I think "nerf" has been nerfed into uselessness.

Guardian Of Legend

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
You know, originally "nerf" meant "to make something less powerful". As in turning a +5 double-bladed axe of DEADLY DOOM into a soft nerf-bat.

Now "nerf" means "any change I don't like". Even when it's really a boost, like in this case.

Personally I think "nerf" has been nerfed into uselessness.
Sees your point.

garethporlest18

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This game should be easy it's boring now. Other than that, I really dont care about nerfs other than drama they can cause for people.

Lothlorian Sassun

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If ANET wanted to stop Dual Smite Runs in CoF they would have done it. It is well within their power to change things in CoF so it could not be dual run. This is a Fix not a Nerf.

Necro is my Main Character...... I know what a true nerfs are all about.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

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Natural Born Killaz

Bug fixes / skill updates: You can see the results of what they're doing. So you know they're doing something.

Bots: You can't see what they're doing. So you don't know what they're doing - don't assume it's nothing.

Kattar

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Join Date: Mar 2007

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When they double the number of enemies and make them all act like the enchanted weapons, that will be a nerf to CoF.

Making it impossible to run - that's a nerf. Changing how one enemy uses one skill - not so much. In the realm of skill nerfs, this does not belong.

Jeez, I always sound so hostile in these threads...

stretchs

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Join Date: Sep 2007

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Bring on the cats. This thread is useless. The OP QQs about anet doing their job, correcting something that wasn't operating properly. When a fix like this benefits you, then you are happy, but because it was something that was being exploited (unknowingly or no) to your benefit you want to QQ. Be glad anet gives a crap about correcting things so that we have a better game

N E D M

N E D M

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

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what did they change? i didnt notice anything different...

Clarissa F

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lothlorian Sassun
Necro is my Main Character...... I know what a true nerfs are all about.
lol'd hardcore at that. Try being a mesmer. Or a sin. Other than not having an endless energy pool in Soul Reaping or a hundred minions, necro knows nothing about the nerfbat.

OP: you found the fix, you worked around it. That's the way the game was intended to work. Are you pissed off that you had to use brainpower? Or are you pissed a bug was fixed that allowed you to use a skill with mass effect? I hear the new Smashbros. is out. Go try that.

Kattar

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Think this is mentioned somewhere earlier, but here you go N E D M...

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Reversal of Damage now triggers on Holy Wrath and Retribution. Damage is inflicted to the Character maintaining the Enchantment. This 'fix' was not documented by ArenaNet but news has been spreading among the players since February 12th. It has been tested multiple times and confirmed to be true.
^^From wiki.

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lol'd hardcore at that. Try being a mesmer.
And I almost fell out of my chair when I saw that. LOL, +5 for you.

Darkobra

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lothlorian Sassun
Necro is my Main Character...... I know what a true nerfs are all about.
Play other classes. And you owe me a new ribcage.

Rocky Raccoon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian Of Legend
Yeah adaptation, then boom headshot! Another nerf rofl. Oh you’re a Elite Guru member. *Steps away quietly terrified staring at shiny medal*

???Skill balance and correction (aka: nerf)???

To nerf is gaming jargon that roughly means "to weaken" or "to make less effective."
Being elite has nothing to do with the subject, common sense does. If something needs fixing it should be done, if you can't adapt to the change try something different(like find a new game).

~ Dan ~

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian Of Legend
I hate it when they do stuff to piss the gamers off. They make it tough for the *players* to have something great in the game and make it easier for non-gamers like *bots* to have their way like spamming “selling gold” via Temp accounts. Things like this cause games to die off, the gamer community just gives up with the game and finds hopefully something new or more promising…
Totally agree. They really need to stop this bug fixing as it's having a negative impact on the community

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

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Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian Of Legend
Then tell me this, what was their motive for the “skill/bug fix”? Who benefits from it?
The players.

So that the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing skill works correctly.

You're retarded.