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Nightfall Awaits

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Nightfall Awakening

D/Mo

14 Feb 2008 at 01:19 - 1

Ok, I have taken (and want to thank) you guy's advice and here is my new build

[skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Chilling Victory[/skill][skill]Pious Assault[/skill][skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill][skill]Vital Boon[/skill]Eternal Aura[skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill]

Tell me what you think!

Thanks much

,
Nightfall Awaits

Game Master Guru

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2008

Mo/E

14 Feb 2008 at 01:45 - 2

well depends if you have energy or not but the build is fine
all you need is energy

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

14 Feb 2008 at 01:50 - 3

personally, id swap out chilling for something a little lower energy and a little more spamable....

Not a good time to give specifics, but you know what i mean

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

[Angl]

D/

14 Feb 2008 at 01:52 - 4

You need to be careful about what enchantment you remove with pious assault the only one you want to be removing is eternal aura which means you wont be able to use pious assault all that often. I personally don't think pious assault should be used on a Lyssa bar but to each his own I suppose. I guess you could use it as an opening attack and then put up your enchantments and then use it again to remove eternal aura. I'd use mystic sweep instead of chilling victory.

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

14 Feb 2008 at 01:55 - 5

Energy will be tough, but otherwise looks good. May just take out mystic regen for something less energy intensive (attacker's insight?) since pious assault+vital boon = big heal already.

Nightfall Awaits

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Nightfall Awakening

D/Mo

14 Feb 2008 at 02:04 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkside

You need to be careful about what enchantment you remove with pious assault the only one you want to be removing is eternal aura which means you wont be able to use pious assault all that often. I personally don't think pious assault should be used on a Lyssa bar but to each his own I suppose. I guess you could use it as an opening attack and then put up your enchantments and then use it again to remove eternal aura. I'd use mystic sweep instead of chilling victory. Actually I didn't think of that.

Thank You!

Legends

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

[Merc]

P/Rt

14 Feb 2008 at 02:14 - 7

I'd personally scrap [skill]Pious Assault[/skill], and replace with

if energy management becomes such a problem. Zealous also has the benefits: More damage, Less energy, Less recharge time, No pious action but no condition.

BTW quit deleting my posts. I'm sorry that my inner-expressing doesn't meet your standards but if I'm correct, I was on topic.

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

[Angl]

D/

14 Feb 2008 at 02:23 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legends

I'd personally scrap [skill]Pious Assault[/skill], and replace with

if energy management becomes such a problem. Zealous also has the benefits: More damage, Less energy, Less recharge time, No pious action but no condition.

BTW quit deleting my posts. I'm sorry that my inner-expressing doesn't meet your standards but if I'm correct, I was on topic. I don't see why he would have energy problems I run something similar and never have any issues with energy. You're post was stupid btw...it's like me posting [skill]backfire[/skill] your ele's worst nightmare.

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

14 Feb 2008 at 02:27 - 9

needs more mystic sweep

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

[Angl]

D/

14 Feb 2008 at 02:32 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by street peddler

for nobody that knows, pious assault is now a 3/4 activation and causes deep wound. Problem with the skill is the enchantment removal...almost all dervish builds depend on enchantments like Aura of Holy might and Heart of Fury which are on most dervish bars and you don't want them removed.

Mr Pink57

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

a van down by the river

iBench

P/W

14 Feb 2008 at 03:21 - 11

I would drop eternal aura if its a AoL build, you are in AoL for probably close to 74 sec if maybe a little shorter. Drop it for Attacker's Insight maybe which is just fine to remove on hit.

And to be careful on what u remove take flail for a IAS.

pink

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

[Angl]

D/

14 Feb 2008 at 03:38 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pink57

I would drop eternal aura if its a AoL build, you are in AoL for probably close to 74 sec if maybe a little shorter. Drop it for Attacker's Insight maybe which is just fine to remove on hit.

And to be careful on what u remove take flail for a IAS.

pink If you're using an avatar you don't "drop" eternal aura...that's crazy talk.

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

14 Feb 2008 at 05:25 - 13

needs moar AoHM
and Rez
and wild blow
and mystic sweep

Mickey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Eternal Insight

D/

14 Feb 2008 at 05:28 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfall Awaits

Ok, I have taken (and want to thank) you guy's advice and here is my new build

[skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Chilling Victory[/skill][skill]Pious Assault[/skill][skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill][skill]Vital Boon[/skill]Eternal Aura[skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill]

Tell me what you think!

Thanks much

,
Nightfall Awaits I'd take out Vital Boon and Mystic Regeneration. I would put in Aura of Holy Might, and Watchful Intervention. I would change out Chilling Victory for Mystic Sweep. I would take out Pious Assault for Wild Blow, but Pious is not bad, so that's up to you.

High Moral

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

rage

Mo/

14 Feb 2008 at 05:49 - 15

Can someone explain the use of pious assault? Its in most builds, but it removes an enchantment... Enchantments are good no? Why do you want to remove them?

Mickey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Eternal Insight

D/

14 Feb 2008 at 05:51 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by High Moral

Can someone explain the use of pious assault? Its in most builds, but it removes an enchantment... Enchantments are good no? Why do you want to remove them? Well, sometimes you want to remove enchantments on purpose, like Vital Boon. Pious Sweep provides deep wound and damage, which is in my opinion the best combination in an attack skill, at the cost of one enchantment, and it's not elite.

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

14 Feb 2008 at 06:00 - 17

chilling -> mystic sweep, protector's strike, or wild blow.
Fast attack speed skills are awesome with lyssa. Wild blow is pretty awesome on a dervish too.

Mystic Regeneration --> Aura of holy might
It kills things. Hard.

Vital boon ---> watchful intervention
Allows you to run only 2 attributes.

Mickey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Eternal Insight

D/

14 Feb 2008 at 06:01 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

chilling -> mystic sweep, protector's strike, or wild blow.
Fast attack speed skills are awesome with lyssa. Wild blow is pretty awesome on a dervish too.

Mystic Regeneration --> Aura of holy might
It kills things. Hard.

Vital boon ---> watchful intervention
Allows you to run only 2 attributes. Your attributes should end up looking like 14 Scythe, 13 Mysticism. Major Scythe, Minor Mysticism, ect...

The breakpoint for Mysticism is 12, but there is really no where else to put the extra point.

Nightfall Awaits

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Nightfall Awakening

D/Mo

14 Feb 2008 at 06:52 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by High Moral

Can someone explain the use of pious assault? Its in most builds, but it removes an enchantment... Enchantments are good no? Why do you want to remove them? Sometimes it is good to lose an enchantment
for example: i use [skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill](which is disabled for 120 sec) then i use the enchantment Eternal Aura (which recharges all Dervish skills after enchantment ends) then i use [skill]pious assault[/skill] (which removes up to 3 enchantments) therefore ending the Eternal Aura enchantment and giving me a fully charged [skill]Avatar of lyssa[/skill](since it is a Dervish Skill) and skipping the 120 sec disable period

Hope that explains it

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

14 Feb 2008 at 08:52 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

needs moar AoHM
and Rez
and wild blow
and mystic sweep This. Whilst dropping the earth prayer crap.

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

14 Feb 2008 at 09:01 - 21

Lyssa works best with small attacks.
Would drop chilling victory here in favor of Protectors Strike/Mystic Sweep.

Hitting a cast under lyssa > chilling victory

Pious Assault is fine, however you may want to use [skill]Flail[/skill] Here instead of Heart of Fury, so it can't be stripped.
Also I'm not a fan of the earth prayers enchants, however it's fine. Vital Boon is a little weak though

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

14 Feb 2008 at 22:38 - 22

though the dmg is mad from hitting a caster while under lyssa with chilling

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

D/

15 Feb 2008 at 22:36 - 23

It is, but with the recycle where it is, you don't get to use it much. Eremite's + Mystic spike will probably do more all up (with mysticism where it should be; yes 13 looks odd, but it does help your Lyssa damage!).

Nightfall Awaits - do you HAVE Aura of Holy Might for the record? That's one little stumbling block that occurs to me. Additionally, if you have Eye of the North and really, really want defensive stuff, check out Great Dwarf Armor - it uses dwarf reputation instead of earth prayers, which lets you stick to the most important two (Scythe Mastery and Mysticism).