Bonus Multiplier for Consumeables

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Wouldn't it be cool, when you would receive a bonus multiplier for Points, so more consumeables you use, while being under the effect of them over time ?

Example:

Say you get your character drunk, for the next 15 Minutes you get only 1 Minute per Drunk Minute.
After being Drunk for 15 Minutes, the next used alcoholic drinks to keep up the drunk level will give you then 3 Points per Drunk Minute...

After again 15 Minutes, the Drunk Bonus raises again to 5 Points per Drunk Minute max.

This Bonus Point System should be granted to characters, which use up in short time very much alcohol. In real life its also so, so more you drink, so more you become drunk, so stronger is the effect of being drunk.
But in the Drunk System of GW, there is not such a effect, somehow sad, because it makes no difference, of how much alscohol you drink in a certain time period, you will ever receive only this odd 1 Point per Minute.
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Same Bonus Points could be done with Sweettooth Title and Party Animal.

After eating for example within a given time more than xx sweets, then will give all swwets after that double points...if you eat more than xxx sweets within xx minutes, the next sweets after that will give again double points further.

Same way with Party anime ...
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This way would have people a certain bonus therfore, that they use up in short time big amounts of those consumeables ...
Therefore it would become more senseful, to collect of such a consumeable first some stacks and then use them up as quick as possible all at once, then using every single item instantly and it would be a way to reduce the grind of those titles.
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What do you think about a Bonus Point Way for Drunkard, Sweettooth and party Animal Title, for consuming in given time periods very much of those items, to raise a point multiplier to receive then more points for those titles for using consumes after the multiplier has raised up..

it would alto motivate people, to collect those stuff in stacks first and it would maybe make those consumebles more valuale, because the demand would surely raise, when there would exist now a Bonus Point way for Alcohol, Sweets and Party Stuff, that is given to character, which use those things in high sums in short time.

Speed Drinking makes you much more drunk, as when you drink only every x minutes something.

The Sugar Flash of Sweets is surely also much more strogner, when youeat in short times tons of sweets, as when you eat only every now and then some tiny amounts of sweets

And usign up in short times very much amounts of party items makes much more FUN, then waiting ever x minutes, before starting the next rocket XD

Compare that with syvester, ^^ do you wait there after havign shot a rocket first 10 minutes or so, before you shoot the next ? I think not XD

cgruber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Tryst of Vengenance [ToV]

Mo/Me

Meh making the titles easier to get will only piss off the people that already have them.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

/not signed

ANet has already made the game easier. I'm not in favor of making it more so.

oracleofwoe

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

CNFC

N/Mo

there are already "levels" of drunkenness, so if you know how those levels work it's quite easy to hit drunk titles already.

/notsigned

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

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/not signed

"Please make easier" threads = /fail

Uber Mass

Uber Mass

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

retired from gw [agro] still ftw

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yes lets make the game easier and the titles also..... -.-

*sarcasm*

/notsigned

Mike_version2

Mike_version2

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

so basically, make things even easier
/notsigned

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

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/notsigned at yet another of your 'make GW easier' thread.

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

/notsigned, not that hard to obtain these titles, just need time and money, no skill required

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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It's annoying to get drunkard, but making it drunkbot-friendlier it's not the solution.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

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Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
It's annoying to get drunkard, but making it drunkbot-friendlier it's not the solution.
Then what is?

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

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Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

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Phoenix Tears, stop being a moron and asking for easy things to be made easier. This would actually benefit the rich people the most. Instead of buying a ton of alcohol and spending 10,000 minutes drunk, they could buy LESS alcohol, and get it in a few hours max. Because people would be buying alcohol more, the rich people could pay more, and the price would increase.

/UNSIGNED

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
Then what is?
More user-friendly.

gameshoes3003

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I wish I could just a bot that drinks the crap for me while I stand in an empty outpost... but then I might get banned...

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
Phoenix Tears, stop being a moron and asking for easy things to be made easier. This would actually benefit the rich people the most. Instead of buying a ton of alcohol and spending 10,000 minutes drunk, they could buy LESS alcohol, and get it in a few hours max. Because people would be buying alcohol more, the rich people could pay more, and the price would increase.

/UNSIGNED
arent grind titles like drunkard from the begin on only for rich people u stupid fool oO

I don't believe in that dream, that a beginner can shit out in an instant 2000 Platin to buy direct enough alcohol to max the title ... so shut up.

I've enough of such selfish /notsigns ... give constructive criticism or get the **** out of here
Anything, important only is, thats somehow an alternative with that both sides can be happy

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

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Join Date: Mar 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
arent grind titles like drunkard from the begin on only for rich people u stupid fool oO

I don't believe in that dream, that a beginner can shit out in an instant 2000 Platin to buy direct enough alcohol to max the title ... so shut up.

I've enough of such selfish /notsigns ... give constructive criticism or get the **** out of here
Anything, important only is, thats somehow an alternative with that both sides can be happy
I'm neither rich, nor poor. I have what I need, and some of what I want. I have 2 characters with Drunkard, both are about 1700 minutes, and working on Incorrigible Ale Hound. I have bought alcohol once. 250 Shamrock Ales from the Guru Auctions, for a price I thought was very fair. Considering the number of quests that give Imperial Commendations, Battle Commendations, etc., I'd say you can easily work on the Drunkard title with no money spent. Not a single title in the game is required, except for one. Sunspear requires players to gain certain ranks before they can continue. Party Animal, Sweet Tooth, and Drunkard are all titles for people who WANT them. If you WANT the title, you either play in a way to allow you to get it (farm, power trade, etc.) or you say it isn't possible and move on.

Your idea is crap. Read what the people have said. Yes, it would make the title easy. That is why your idea is crap. It is already insanely easy to get those titles. You just want it to be fast, easy, and cheap. And I know English isn't your first language, but try to post with better English when you try to flame me please.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

/Not Signed. Reasons above.


What are these Consumeables you speak of?

Blu

Blu

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Michigan

Blades of Burning Shadows [GoDT]

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/notsigned

I hope you realize that this is just gonna help rich people finish titles faster.

credit

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

This doesn't make the game easier, it just makes it take less time.

/signed, why not? Maybe I could use some firewaters from zchest.

Uber Mass

Uber Mass

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

retired from gw [agro] still ftw

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
arent grind titles like drunkard from the begin on only for rich people u stupid fool oO

I don't believe in that dream, that a beginner can shit out in an instant 2000 Platin to buy direct enough alcohol to max the title ... so shut up.

I've enough of such selfish /notsigns ... give constructive criticism or get the **** out of here
Anything, important only is, thats somehow an alternative with that both sides can be happy
Get real alot of people allready have worked for that title and then they see oh Anet makes it easier for the rest -.o

Drunkard is not hard to obtain...You can do it also when you arent rich... Just be there with every event and play the games required to get alcohol or farm them..

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Alcohol, Sweets and Party Stuff are Consumeables, because you use them up, you can't use them permanently, like the eternal bettle potions.

Like credit said, the titles doesn't become easier, it just would reduce the required time effort for people, which use in a short time period very much of those consumeables, instead of using the same amount of consumeables over a long time period.

Maybe the interval for the increase of the Bonus Multiplier by 15 Minutes is too short, maybe increase it to 30 Minutes, than peoples would have to use up for an entire hour alhohol ect. before they would reach the max bonus points of +4 to receive 5 Points then per drunken Minute.

This change wouldn't make those titles anyhow cheaper in kind of money effort.. its just the time effort, that would be reduced, therefore, that you use in short time big sums of these things

The Bonus Point Multiplier already exists in a form for the race titles like Asura and so on...and it raises by killing more and more enemies.. so why shouldn't have those grind titles also such a similar way to increase the bonus points over time, when you use up more and more of those consumeables, become more (drunk/sugar flashed/happy). ???


@Uber Mass: The "Rest" like you call all, which haven't maxed it yet include also all your other characters, that aren't your Main Characters and no Title Hunters ...you would receive for all your characters, that aren't title hunters yet also this benefit from this change...but too much people are too blind and stubborn to realize this fact, that making those grind titles somehow easier to obtain would make the game again more player friendly, especially when they would become account wide titles.... that would finally stop then this silly transfers of unidentified gold items, keys, consumeables liek alcohol, sweets and party stuff ect. from character to another character on the same account and it would be again fun and motivating, to play with more than 1 character simultanously, because playing with other charas, othern than your title hunter main chara, wouldn't feel to you anymiore, like a big waste of time all the time.

GW MUST become back to its good gameplay roots, the game had, before factions and the implemention of those titles !!!!

And the stronger side for "yes" about more account wide titles in the poll for it shows, that I stand not alone in this oppinion, that Anet has to change something about the title concept to make GW again multi chara friendly.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
GW MUST become back to its good gameplay roots, the game had, before factions and the implemention of those titles !!!!
Then 90% of the community will just quit. When there's nothing left to strive for, what's the point?

And the reason they don't have every title being easy to get is to keep their player base.

Oh, the fact gameplay is worse compared to prophecies days doesn't help, since there's no good gameplay to be had. Plus, once most people learn how to play this game, it's really hard to think of new challenges for them without just beefing up monster levels/numbers/skills.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Then 90% of the community will just quit. When there's nothing left to strive for, what's the point?

And the reason they don't have every title being easy to get is to keep their player base.

Oh, the fact gameplay is worse compared to prophecies days doesn't help, since there's no good gameplay to be had. Plus, once most people learn how to play this game, it's really hard to think of new challenges for them without just beefing up monster levels/numbers/skills.
Then Anet should give us somethign to strive for, what they failed at from the begin on..

For example the missing elite realms of Dwayna, Lyssa and Melandru. Or implement a system, that lets players forge their own armor and weapons through for PvE only.

Theres still the Hall of Monuments, players can/will strive for, collectign "all" the elite armors, collectign all the destroyer weapons, collecting minipets, equipping all 25 heroes perfectly...

thats absolutely enough to strife for, before GW2 will get released, and would anet also imrpvoe the Hall of Monuments finally more, so that players will have a sense for collecting all green items, than they would have isntantly more stuff to strife for, when Anet woudl also implement then a NPC with festival hat re-create function for green items (re-created = automatically customized) so that collecting green items won't become a storage place horror scenario and the same also finally for minipets, so that minis can be re-created so that they don't fill up storage place anymore, once dedicated to the HoM and you won't sell them ...

God, please don't do so, as if players wouldn't have instantly nothing more to do, when some titles would become finally account based to reduce their massive grind grade from ridiculous to normal, that doesn't require to grind per character for several months, being based on only to drive players into online addiction, forcing casual gamers to play hardcore, when they want to have those titles...

People quit GW way more often, cause of the fact, that this game has become so extreme multi character unfriendly, than selfish players would ever rage quit, only because something got a bit easier to obtain after an update, that would also benefit all their non title hunting characters >.>
And why is that so ? because the game becomes because of it's multi character unfriendly gameplay way too quick too boring, because just ever wasting time on non main characters makes simple no fun, especially when you waste lots of time, ever transfering stuff from non main characters to main characte,r so that you can just use them with the title hutner character is extreme annoying over time, when you have to do this daily a couple of time,s very soon this progress lets you fall asleep and it wing hang out of your ears and you simple can't see the game anymore for this stupid gameplay, which would make fun, when it would be solved accountbased and it would be totally regardless, with which character I identify gold stuff, with with character I drink alcohol and so on.... then would fall away all those annoying item transfers forever and would be finally snow of yesterday !!!

but its sensless to discuss here about it further, people think ever only about, what would be best for those titles and their personal characters, which own still those titles, but never..what would be really best for the overall gameplay of the whole game ....thats the sad truth >.<

Ever thinking so small minded, looking ever only at one piece of a puzzle, instead of the whole puzzle picture >.> terrible *sigh*

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

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Join Date: Mar 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
This change wouldn't make those titles anyhow cheaper in kind of money effort.. its just the time effort, that would be reduced, therefore, that you use in short time big sums of these things
Yes, it would make them cheaper. Lets make up some numbers here to demonstrate. *These numbers are made up* Currently it takes 1000 Spiked Eggnog to get Drunkard (1000 minutes drunk). Your system would allow someone to consume large amounts, and obtain 5 minutes of drunk for each bottle, instead of 1 minute for each bottle. Lets say it takes 20 bottles to reach the +5 mark. Drink 200, and get 200 minutes. You also have the +2, +3, and +4 modifiers during that 200 minutes. So in reality, that 200 bottles would give you more like 300 minutes of Drunkard, and bottles 201-300 give you another 500 minutes. This means 300 bottles would provide roughly 800 minutes, not 300 minutes.

You apparently don't like the game, as mostof your posts want it to be 1)easier, 2) faster, or 3) simpler. Either find a new game, or realize your method of playing this one sucks.

AuraofMana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Georgia, US

Quote:
Phoenix Tears, stop being a moron and asking for easy things to be made easier. This would actually benefit the rich people the most. Instead of buying a ton of alcohol and spending 10,000 minutes drunk, they could buy LESS alcohol, and get it in a few hours max. Because people would be buying alcohol more, the rich people could pay more, and the price would increase.
Honestly, if you can't afford to buy stuff, that's YOUR problem. I don't see how this is rich people's fault? Oh, they have more money because they know how to make them and they deserve to pay more?
Let me just pave everything else for you so you don't feel like life isn't unfair for you okay?

You like grinding in this game, some of us do not. You like wasting time, we don't. Someone's always going to complain about something no matter how you fix it, or even if you don't fix it. So what's the concern about "making people who have already gotten this title unhappy"?

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You apparently don't like the game, as mostof your posts want it to be 1)easier, 2) faster, or 3) simpler. Either find a new game, or realize your method of playing this one sucks.
We aren't the one complaining about "the rich people". It seems like you want it easier. And our method of playing this game sucks? We aren't the one getting upset over alcohol price dropping so we can't sell it off and make gold. We have no gold problem, thx.