People Who Get Run
MikeV
Honestly, I don't give a rat's a$$ what other people do in the game. I didn't buy it to be the fun police and make sure everyone does everything as it was intended. I bought it for my enjoyment. If they want to skip stuff and jump to where ever they need to be, who cares. They bought there game and are enjoying it the way they want to. Everybody wins. Well, except the people who bought it to be the fun police. Looking at these forums, that's a full time job that I wouldn't want.
Pleikki
mm for this i like in factions / nf that you cant do some missions etc until you done some quests i would like same for lvls like you must be lvl 18 to enter any outpost or town drok are lvl 15 desert etc.
Lord Natural
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Originally Posted by CHannum
Not at all, I'd think it's pretty stupid to make another character if you don't actually have the interest in playing it.
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Operative 14
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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
Ever wonder what would happen if it was made so people couldn't get runs through Snake Dance?
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I'm going to echo what a lot of people on this topic have said; I have played through all the games with at least one character, never having gotten a run. My later characters all get runs for max armor and other cities simply because I want to skip the now superfluous storyline and get to doing level 20 things.
Another view point for all those that think we are ruining the games for ourselves (as runee's) is, would not playing through the game multiple times also ruin the story for some? I realized a few weeks ago that I don't like playing through the game multiple times if I don't have to. That is what ruins the storyline for me. The first time through it's this grand, epic tale of how you go and defeat (insert villain here). The second time through it's an interesting storyline, and hey, wait, didn't you already kill that guy? Then third time through it's like yeah yeah whatever Rurik you're going to (spoiler) anyway so who cares if the rivers have turned to tar and where you played as a kid, and now I'm going to kill this impossibly hard to defeat villain... again. And then down from there.
Basically, I love the game, but from my perspective it completely ruins the game to go through it multiple times. As with anything in life, the more times you are exposed to something you think is neat, the less you think it is special or neat and becomes mundane. That's just me though, there are people who do enjoy playing through the game multiple times and it only enhances their appreciation of it.
mr_groovy
Nothing futher to add as had been stated by numerous people.
Question for the Op though:
Do you ever bother replying in your own threads? Or do you only like starting them >.>. I'm not expecting any reply on this.
Question for the Op though:
Do you ever bother replying in your own threads? Or do you only like starting them >.>. I'm not expecting any reply on this.
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by IslandHermet
Black Angel please read this post. and anyone else that is confused about why people skip areas.
most people have farming chars and the chars they play the game with.(it would seem some people can not accept this.) my main goes all over does everything and anything, my monk on the other hand is a farmer, same for my necro, my ele does eveything same for my derv, it all depends on what you made the char for. The point you made about it getting lame or old is very true which is why once I get bored with the farming spot or what not I change chars and do something else, same when pve gets old I pvp. I do not think you thought of everything (do you think everyone has 1 char and 1 char only?) you must take into account that most people have all 3 games which is 8 char slots, some have the SE/CE editions of the games so they have 10 slots. so the statment that they are only hurting themselves is just a limited view of the big picture. if I want to do the ROF missions again I do them with my main char or one of my backup mains, if I want to farm I will use the farming chars or even farm with my main. |
I use my main to play everything really. He's the first one to go through all the campaigns, that I did most of my questing, and that I do most of my farming on anyways. The rest are there because I either wanted a farming spot (my monk with DoA), needed a side goal to keep me going at one point (Primeval armor for my ranger), for completion's sake (finishing Prophecies with my dervish) or to help guildies (getting my nuker around).
I don't feel as I'm hurting myself as I have enough "time" to learn a profession, come up with builds, mod them, as I do the missions I generally do. When you've been playing for nearly 3 years, it's not so hard to learn how to play a new profession or build.
Do I hurt anyone by getting a run? No. Do I hurt anyone by going back to those missions, learning my profession? No. If I didn't take the time to LEARN how to play the game, yes, I'd hurt the people I play with. Do I hurt myself for learning whatever I'm doing, my way? Don't think so either.
Darkside
I personally don't care about people getting run...play the game how you wanna play it. What does annoy me is when they want in a group. I remember being in a pug for arborstone and there were two characters below lvl 10 who wanted into the group. Pay someone or get a guild/alliance member to help you don't beg and whine to get into a random group when you are completely useless for the mission.
Smile Like Umean It
Well, when you take a Monk, Mesmer, Ele, Rit, Assassin, Paragon, Derv, 2 Necros, 2 Wars and 4 Rangers across all three chapters, I guess then, you can say something about people getting ran.
When I first go through a chapter I pay close attention to what the storyline is, if I don't get it I look it up on the wiki. So, even if I am playing a character that's been ran I'm well aware of what's going on.
And who's to say I don't go back and finish the entire chapter with those characters? I just don't want to have to go through the same thing over and over again.
And FYI 99% of the times I get ran is by me on my second account with a character who has already been through.
So, my response to your question of
It's none of my business, it's none of your business or anyone else's for that matter.
If you happen across someone in your group at an end-mission who obviously doesn't know what they're doing then either help them, request they be kicked or get over it and keep your mouth closed.
When I first go through a chapter I pay close attention to what the storyline is, if I don't get it I look it up on the wiki. So, even if I am playing a character that's been ran I'm well aware of what's going on.
And who's to say I don't go back and finish the entire chapter with those characters? I just don't want to have to go through the same thing over and over again.
And FYI 99% of the times I get ran is by me on my second account with a character who has already been through.
So, my response to your question of
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So here's the main statement: What do you think about people who ask for runs through just about anything?
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If you happen across someone in your group at an end-mission who obviously doesn't know what they're doing then either help them, request they be kicked or get over it and keep your mouth closed.
Ouchie
A long time ago I felt like everyone getting runs were cheating and it bothered me they didn't play the whole game ..........
But now I don't really care as it doesn't make a difference to how I want to play or what I want to do with my characters.
If I have a character that doesn't want to get her feet wet ever I will pay someone to run through water for me - - another doesn't want to go near snakes - hey I'll pay for an exterminator lol
But now I don't really care as it doesn't make a difference to how I want to play or what I want to do with my characters.
If I have a character that doesn't want to get her feet wet ever I will pay someone to run through water for me - - another doesn't want to go near snakes - hey I'll pay for an exterminator lol
IslandHermet
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Originally Posted by Kusandaa
QFT.
I use my main to play everything really. He's the first one to go through all the campaigns, that I did most of my questing, and that I do most of my farming on anyways. The rest are there because I either wanted a farming spot (my monk with DoA), needed a side goal to keep me going at one point (Primeval armor for my ranger), for completion's sake (finishing Prophecies with my dervish) or to help guildies (getting my nuker around). I don't feel as I'm hurting myself as I have enough "time" to learn a profession, come up with builds, mod them, as I do the missions I generally do. When you've been playing for nearly 3 years, it's not so hard to learn how to play a new profession or build. Do I hurt anyone by getting a run? No. Do I hurt anyone by going back to those missions, learning my profession? No. If I didn't take the time to LEARN how to play the game, yes, I'd hurt the people I play with. Do I hurt myself for learning whatever I'm doing, my way? Don't think so either. |
BlackAngel
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Originally Posted by IslandHermet
Black Angel please read this post. and anyone else that is confused about why people skip areas.
most people have farming chars and the chars they play the game with.(it would seem some people can not accept this.) my main goes all over does everything and anything, my monk on the other hand is a farmer, same for my necro, my ele does eveything same for my derv, it all depends on what you made the char for. The point you made about it getting lame or old is very true which is why once I get bored with the farming spot or what not I change chars and do something else, same when pve gets old I pvp. I do not think you thought of everything (do you think everyone has 1 char and 1 char only?) you must take into account that most people have all 3 games which is 8 char slots, some have the SE/CE editions of the games so they have 10 slots. so the statment that they are only hurting themselves is just a limited view of the big picture. if I want to do the ROF missions again I do them with my main char or one of my backup mains, if I want to farm I will use the farming chars or even farm with my main. |
Richardt
Getting a run to skip some non necessary missions? I don't see why not.
Getting a run/ferry for sme max armor? Sure!
The only thing I have a problem with people getting a run are those that are low level with elite armor. Does it affect my gameplay at all? Nope. For me it just seems contrary to the armor being "elite"-I was actually happy when the GWEN armors had some sort of requirement outside of having all the mats and gold.
Getting a run/ferry for sme max armor? Sure!
The only thing I have a problem with people getting a run are those that are low level with elite armor. Does it affect my gameplay at all? Nope. For me it just seems contrary to the armor being "elite"-I was actually happy when the GWEN armors had some sort of requirement outside of having all the mats and gold.
Nemo the Capitalist
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Originally Posted by arbiter
when you are on your 8th pve character, fighting to every location on 3 expansions seems a little stupid wouldnt you agree?
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ofc no one wants to waste all that time
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by IslandHermet
you quoted the wrong person bro. I was telling him why people skip areas.
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But yeah, I agree with you on that earlier post (hence the QFT).
MithranArkanere
I only get into runs when it's late or I'm feeling lazy.
But I never run something for the first time and never without triying to do it 3..5 times myself.
And I only enter runs for some annoying repetitive missions that I have already made with other characters, never to access outposts.
But I never run something for the first time and never without triying to do it 3..5 times myself.
And I only enter runs for some annoying repetitive missions that I have already made with other characters, never to access outposts.
payne
makes me money : people being lazy = me richer....
I dont like people asking for runs but if they are lazy and just to prove how "leet" they are by beating a game they will soon be proved false!
doesnt matter if people want runs really, achievements are within the eye of the beholder; no-one else!
I dont like people asking for runs but if they are lazy and just to prove how "leet" they are by beating a game they will soon be proved false!
doesnt matter if people want runs really, achievements are within the eye of the beholder; no-one else!
Torqual
I enjoy playing Guild Wars. Therefore skipping large parts of it doesn't make sense to me. I have eight characters and average of 3 Protectors per campaign. When I get to the end of the campaign I go back and do it again in Hard Mode. I have two Vanquisher titles and a Guardian title, plus several in progress.
I don't consider that I understand a class properly until I have completed all three campaigns on that character of that class. Redoing the same stuff with 8 different character classes is not repetitious for me, as I am using whole different skillsets, learning, and playing different roles. Each time I go out into a new EA I try new combinations of skills.
Role-playing enjoyment FTW!
Do I like to hyperspace to the end of a campaign? No. I think it would be lame to do it? Yes. Does it bother me that other people do? Not really, I accepted a long time ago that lame people also play GW.
I don't consider that I understand a class properly until I have completed all three campaigns on that character of that class. Redoing the same stuff with 8 different character classes is not repetitious for me, as I am using whole different skillsets, learning, and playing different roles. Each time I go out into a new EA I try new combinations of skills.
Role-playing enjoyment FTW!
Do I like to hyperspace to the end of a campaign? No. I think it would be lame to do it? Yes. Does it bother me that other people do? Not really, I accepted a long time ago that lame people also play GW.
Dylananimus
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Originally Posted by payne
makes me money : people being lazy = me richer....
I dont like people asking for runs but if they are lazy and just to prove how "leet" they are by beating a game they will soon be proved false! doesnt matter if people want runs really, achievements are within the eye of the beholder; no-one else! |
Sure, if it's somebody's first char and they're just not bothering to play the game...it's not a great way to go, and that is indeed lazy. But for those of us who have played many times through each mission and quest of each expansion, runs are a great way to explore farming characters, or just to get characters to certain places to do specific things. It's also handy if you're in a guild to have diffrent characters ready and able to help guilmates in as many places you can get them. Why play the entire game through on each of those 'utility' characters if those few characters are their just for farming or to help your guildies? Seems a tad silly and a bit of a waste of time if you have one or two 'main' characters you mostly like to concentrate on. Having said that, I do tend to try to rush myself through missions and places wihout having to spend money on runs
But that's just me being stingy. It's not lazy if it's not your first char...it's innovative. And to be honest, more often that not I tend to backtrack with those farming and guildhelper chars to explore the game with them as a different class. It's just nice to have them in places that are useful sometimes, however
Not all of us have the amount of time to play as others, so can't spend as much time with each char.
Eldin
I have nothing against people on their 6th PvE character or people who need to get some armor for a build they've been working hard on setting up.
But people who are lazy and get run just since they don't like the game need to DIE.
I don't mean when you get owned on a mission over and over, give up and get run, I mean the people who wanna get run to Drok's just because they are impatient SOBs.
But people who are lazy and get run just since they don't like the game need to DIE.
I don't mean when you get owned on a mission over and over, give up and get run, I mean the people who wanna get run to Drok's just because they are impatient SOBs.
credit
Most people agree that doing the same pointless missions/quests is pointless, so we get runs to places.
Age
Who wants to go through those jungle misions agian and if it wasn't for wanting to beat your dopple to get ascended through all those desert ones?I would skip those as well.
You wouldn't see a lot of running if it wasn't a linear based game.
You wouldn't see a lot of running if it wasn't a linear based game.
You can't see me
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Not at all, I'd think it's pretty stupid to make another character if you don't actually have the interest in playing it.
I've got 10 characters, one of each profession, spread across all three campaigns. I play a little here, I play a little there. There is nothing in this game I've found that's so boring that it isn't still fun with a friend or two or a quick in and out H/H while I chat on TS. Maybe all 10 will never see the end of each campaign before I'm tired of the game altogether, maybe I'll wind up with Legendary Protector for all 10, can't say either way at this point. But I can say that I'll never take the shortcut of having someone else play the game for me. |
If the campaigns were more interesting to play through, than maybe there would not be runners.
anonymous
Its like why don't you go to grade school first every day before going to high school/college? Its because you don't need to repeat easy stuff that you have already done. Grade school isn't particularly enjoyable so why should you go there even though you have already been through it?
StormDragonZ
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Question for the Op though: Do you ever bother replying in your own threads? Or do you only like starting them >.>. I'm not expecting any reply on this. |
When I beat a game once, and if I ever replay it, I go slower than normal. It's just how I am. I'm in no rush to get anything done.
You can't see me
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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
Not often do I like to respond to my own threads. However, with what I've read from responses, I can say I'm one of the few people who has enjoyed repeating the same things over and over and still find it worth doing.
When I beat a game once, and if I ever replay it, I go slower than normal. It's just how I am. I'm in no rush to get anything done. |
Tyla
I shall quote the great borat...
"It's Nice!"
Runners are a convenience to people who don't want to complete the boring bits over and over.
"It's Nice!"
Runners are a convenience to people who don't want to complete the boring bits over and over.
Numa Pompilius
I have full understanding that people on their sixth character don't feel like doing the tyrian jungle missions again. God knows I don't
I do not at all understand people who run their FIRST character, but hey, if they want to cheat themselves out of the gaming experience they paid $30 for, that's their own silly mistake.
Runners: I don't care.
I do not at all understand people who run their FIRST character, but hey, if they want to cheat themselves out of the gaming experience they paid $30 for, that's their own silly mistake.
Runners: I don't care.
LeoX
I just get runs to get to farming spots for new farming characters i create.
And yeah it's okay with me to run your other characters around since you've been through the storyline already. I'm also okay with first character tbh, idm.
And yeah it's okay with me to run your other characters around since you've been through the storyline already. I'm also okay with first character tbh, idm.
CHannum
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Playing through campaigns and getting titles is not the reason many people re-make characters. The Ten of my PvE characters exist for farming, and yes, I took runs a few times. Not in bulk, but a few places. Then I became skilled enough to run myself most of the time.
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Yes, it's nice that the game has meta goals in the form of titles, skill unlocks, item unlocks, etc., but ultimately you either like the game play or you really should have just picked up another game a while ago. When the only thing left is to spend your free time farming something that doesn't work an iota better than the stuff you had half way to Droks and only has value to other people who should have moved on to other games a year ago as well, you're playing a completely different game than me.
Even if the more meta goals are your thing, it is NOT a huge endeavor to actually play through them. If spending a week working towards something in a game is so awful that you can't possibly find any enjoyment in it, again, go do something else. GW has exhausted its value to you, you're just too hung up on chasing empty trinkets to notice it.
Ultimately, as I've pointed out in previous threads, it doesn't affect my game experience, so cest la vie, but I do figure anyone who gets/gives runs is probably someone who sees no problems with such shortcuts in real life and therefore no one I would likely ever want to be associated with. Being willing to put in a little work to achieve what you want is not something that should be dismissed as the dumb choice.
mr_groovy
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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
Not often do I like to respond to my own threads. .
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Usually in threads an Op takes a statement, who then tries either to defend it or change his/ her opinion on it. Not replying in your own threads is Lame.
Why start a thread, if your not even interested in how other people exrpess their opinion on the matter?
You can't see me
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Your post is a perfect example of why I don't get it and never will. The campaigns are most of what there is to this game. Prophecies is hands down the longest campaign to actually play through and I managed to get a character completely done with most bonuses in a week's worth of evenings. If I'd actually thought to myself that there was anything more worth spending my time on than playing those same missions again, I'd have been doing something other than GW.
Yes, it's nice that the game has meta goals in the form of titles, skill unlocks, item unlocks, etc., but ultimately you either like the game play or you really should have just picked up another game a while ago. When the only thing left is to spend your free time farming something that doesn't work an iota better than the stuff you had half way to Droks and only has value to other people who should have moved on to other games a year ago as well, you're playing a completely different game than me. Even if the more meta goals are your thing, it is NOT a huge endeavor to actually play through them. If spending a week working towards something in a game is so awful that you can't possibly find any enjoyment in it, again, go do something else. GW has exhausted its value to you, you're just too hung up on chasing empty trinkets to notice it. Ultimately, as I've pointed out in previous threads, it doesn't affect my game experience, so cest la vie, but I do figure anyone who gets/gives runs is probably someone who sees no problems with such shortcuts in real life and therefore no one I would likely ever want to be associated with. Being willing to put in a little work to achieve what you want is not something that should be dismissed as the dumb choice. |
If I watch a movie, and I know that every time I get to the end, I'll get candy, then if I see the movie once, and can just fast foward and get to the candy that I enjoy more than the movie itself, as it was a bad movie, I'll naturally take the chance to Fast Foward.
I think you don't understand because you don't seem to know how little value is actually put in Campaign Style Playing in online games like Guild Wars.
Killed u man
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I shall quote the great borat...
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Srry for off-topic* (Runner have being discussed since day1 anyways
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Operative 14
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Ultimately, as I've pointed out in previous threads, it doesn't affect my game experience, so cest la vie, but I do figure anyone who gets/gives runs is probably someone who sees no problems with such shortcuts in real life and therefore no one I would likely ever want to be associated with. Being willing to put in a little work to achieve what you want is not something that should be dismissed as the dumb choice.
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And also I think it's a little unrealistic to say that how people choose to play through a game translates into their work ethic in life. The point of playing a game is to relax and unwind how you choose; if you do that by playing through all the missions thats fine, but not everyone enjoys doing so multiple times.
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I think the way to look at it is this; If someone wants to watch LotR: Return of the King, I doubt many here would sit through the preceding five hours of film to get up to that movie each time they wanted to do so. Or Star Wars, I would imagine a majority here wouldn't want to sit through Episodes I-V, especially I-III *shivers*, so they could watch Return of the Jedi (hey, look, two 'return of the something' examples!
AuraofMana
Dude why does it matter if it's "right" or "wrong"? If you want to do it, no one is stopping you. If someone else is doing it and it doesn't affect you, why do you care?
If you have too much time in your hands, might I suggest that you go play GW instead of talking about it?
If you have too much time in your hands, might I suggest that you go play GW instead of talking about it?
Holly Herro
I'm just curious.
What does it matter to you if some one on there 6th character doesn't go through the same story they have before because they've seen it and they'd rather not waste their time when they could be doing other things in this game?
If you'd like to go through the campaign 6 times, do it, don't start a thread.
What does it matter to you if some one on there 6th character doesn't go through the same story they have before because they've seen it and they'd rather not waste their time when they could be doing other things in this game?
If you'd like to go through the campaign 6 times, do it, don't start a thread.
Blanche Neige
well i never run anything, since i currently only play in pve with 1 character and played with another one wich is my farming char and healer when i help guildies
Numa Pompilius
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If I watch a movie, and I know that every time I get to the end, I'll get candy, then if I see the movie once, and can just fast foward and get to the candy that I enjoy more than the movie itself, as it was a bad movie, I'll naturally take the chance to Fast Foward.
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In fact, to me it sounds like maybe this kind of game isn't really your thing.
Crom The Pale
It seams to me that most of the people getting runs these days are trying to ..
A: catch up with a guild member/friend
B: create a farming char/reach a farming location
C: create a PvP char with better access to PvE skins/armor
A and C I really understand and have no problems with as long as its not their first time through the game, B tends to bother me though I really don't know why. I mean if your guild is doing DoA and nobody has a monk there why not push one through, as long as its a good player that has reached that point on another char and understands how to play.
A: catch up with a guild member/friend
B: create a farming char/reach a farming location
C: create a PvP char with better access to PvE skins/armor
A and C I really understand and have no problems with as long as its not their first time through the game, B tends to bother me though I really don't know why. I mean if your guild is doing DoA and nobody has a monk there why not push one through, as long as its a good player that has reached that point on another char and understands how to play.
roshanabey2
If you have done something 8 times, don't you think you would find it borring going throught the easy bits AGAIN &AGAin and leveling up, and if you don't run, that kinda limits, the things you spend you money on don't you think?
Dryndalyn
I have over 30 characters but haven’t gotten to the point where I use the run services yet. I just go through the game really slowly, lol. I don’t mind repeating missions over and over again.
I do however appreciate that someone has found another way to make money instead of farming or merchanting. I think that if I wanted to make it a business to get myself some gold, the only non-boring job out there would be running people. There just aren’t enough ways to earn money in this game. Just playing the game doesn’t do it, farming is duller than a day job and merchanting is more uncomfortable than a day job, at least to me. That leaves running.
Each person has their own opinion on enjoyable ways to make money. My point is that there are so few options for making money, why take one of them away?
I do however appreciate that someone has found another way to make money instead of farming or merchanting. I think that if I wanted to make it a business to get myself some gold, the only non-boring job out there would be running people. There just aren’t enough ways to earn money in this game. Just playing the game doesn’t do it, farming is duller than a day job and merchanting is more uncomfortable than a day job, at least to me. That leaves running.
Each person has their own opinion on enjoyable ways to make money. My point is that there are so few options for making money, why take one of them away?