Unstoppable everlasting VWK Core Farming
CE Devilman
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joshuarodger
Umm... this has already been posted and improved a few times.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10219126
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10217319
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10249841
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10219126
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10217319
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10249841
CE Devilman
dead link
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this link got 2 links ..take 2 link and go to page 7
but U just need 4 skills..and stand still.
dead link
this link got 2 links ..take 2 link and go to page 7
but U just need 4 skills..and stand still.
N E D M
if you are holding ashes will a weapon spell affect you? (since you arent weilding a weapon)
Abedeus
Yes, it will affect you. You don't actually NEED a weapon to have weapon spell ;o
MercenaryKnight
What's the point of the weapon spell armor if your only using vengeful weapon. It is going to disappear the second something hits you. So the point of weapon armor is nothing unless you were say going to use resilliant weapon or some long lasting one. Isn't their armor for while holding an item? Wouldn't that be more useful?
Abedeus
Where do you see second weapon spell? I see only vengeful weapon.
Btw - Can it be done in Me/Rt?
Btw - Can it be done in Me/Rt?
|pyro|
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
Where do you see second weapon spell? I see only vengeful weapon.
Btw - Can it be done in Me/Rt? Yes, it can be done.
Btw - Can it be done in Me/Rt? Yes, it can be done.
N1ghtstalker
looks good
i'll try it out
i'll try it out
RotteN
posted by Dont feel no pain ages ago here
this is nothing new, can be done with pretty much any X/Rt (or Rt/X). Only the W/Rt setup can survive hard mode though.
this is nothing new, can be done with pretty much any X/Rt (or Rt/X). Only the W/Rt setup can survive hard mode though.
Sanakthe Victus
Where is this place?
Dreikki
Glint's challenge, outside Central transfer chamber in EOTN.
capblye
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Originally Posted by RotteN
Skinny Corpse
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Originally Posted by capblye
Ive got the W/Rt Set up and it CANNOT survive Hard Mode ... Dmg rate is too high for VwK to keep up. You get pwned in 15 seconds tops. Must have been nerfed .. the rit chain they unleash now, with lamentation and spirit rift in HM is so spammed, your done in no time.
I can't do it either. 
If it's me or some changes made, I don't know.. I get my ass kicked in HM, that's all i know.
If it's me or some changes made, I don't know.. I get my ass kicked in HM, that's all i know.
Carboplatin
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Originally Posted by Skinny Corpse
I can't do it either.
If it's me or some changes made, I don't know.. I get my ass kicked in HM, that's all i know. last time i did it it worked fined. Its all about the timing of the endure pain.
w/rt works in HM for the first wave. That is a fact.
If it's me or some changes made, I don't know.. I get my ass kicked in HM, that's all i know. last time i did it it worked fined. Its all about the timing of the endure pain.
w/rt works in HM for the first wave. That is a fact.
Skinny Corpse
Cool, then I apparently just need to practice.
knives
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Originally Posted by CE Devilman
max armor and Herald´s Insignia (armor +10 While holding a item)
+20% longer enc on the staff
norn rank 3+ Whats the point of the 20% longer enc staff?
thehoweller
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Originally Posted by R Langdon
w/rt works in HM for the first wave. That is a fact.
The only possible way I can see a W/Rt tanking the damage of Destroyer Ritualists in HM is if they're running circles, dodging most everything.
I can't imagine Vengeful's lifestealing, surpassing the damage output of Hard Mode Ritualists.
I can't imagine Vengeful's lifestealing, surpassing the damage output of Hard Mode Ritualists.
capblye
Even then, 5x Spirit rift, Lamentation and Splinter Shjot kills me in 16 sec ...
Im seeing 115 dmg for each spirit rift, so even with endure pain and health over 1,000, im done in seconds
Im seeing 115 dmg for each spirit rift, so even with endure pain and health over 1,000, im done in seconds
Antithesis
The OP says NM. Other than the challenge, why would you do this in HM when you're just as likely to get cores to drop in NM?
Carboplatin
what armor and gear are you using? checkout don't feel no pain's thread in the link above. theres a video of it being done..
unless there was a change to the destroyers.. which i am not aware of
unless there was a change to the destroyers.. which i am not aware of
capblye
As to why run it HM ... gold drops and dyes are far better than crappy whites in NM
I just tried running this 6 times in HM and hammered each time. I am running a seperate set of armor with all the runes recommended and a set of Sw/Sh just for this, and ill tell ya, ya cannot get past the first Spirit Rift chain!
Even in NM now it appears the 1st SR chain takes ya down low, and its a close run thing ...
Three days ago, i spent about 3 hours doin the NM run, maybe 10% fail, if that, no problems ... now im only completing 50% in NM
Would be nice for someone else who has done the run many times to pipe in on NM and HM
I just tried running this 6 times in HM and hammered each time. I am running a seperate set of armor with all the runes recommended and a set of Sw/Sh just for this, and ill tell ya, ya cannot get past the first Spirit Rift chain!
Even in NM now it appears the 1st SR chain takes ya down low, and its a close run thing ...
Three days ago, i spent about 3 hours doin the NM run, maybe 10% fail, if that, no problems ... now im only completing 50% in NM
Would be nice for someone else who has done the run many times to pipe in on NM and HM
joshuarodger
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
Where do you see second weapon spell? I see only vengeful weapon.
Btw - Can it be done in Me/Rt? If you follow the 3rd link in the 2nd post, above, it'll give you a link for a mesmer VwK. for some reason the first two links i posted aren't working.
Btw - Can it be done in Me/Rt? If you follow the 3rd link in the 2nd post, above, it'll give you a link for a mesmer VwK. for some reason the first two links i posted aren't working.
joshuarodger
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Originally Posted by capblye
As to why run it HM ... gold drops and dyes are far better than crappy whites in NM
I just tried running this 6 times in HM and hammered each time. I am running a seperate set of armor with all the runes recommended and a set of Sw/Sh just for this, and ill tell ya, ya cannot get past the first Spirit Rift chain!
Even in NM now it appears the 1st SR chain takes ya down low, and its a close run thing ...
Three days ago, i spent about 3 hours doin the NM run, maybe 10% fail, if that, no problems ... now im only completing 50% in NM
Would be nice for someone else who has done the run many times to pipe in on NM and HM
i'm dervish but i just made the run in NM, no problems just like always. never could get it to work in HM for D/Rt. not enough armor and/or HP.
I just tried running this 6 times in HM and hammered each time. I am running a seperate set of armor with all the runes recommended and a set of Sw/Sh just for this, and ill tell ya, ya cannot get past the first Spirit Rift chain!
Even in NM now it appears the 1st SR chain takes ya down low, and its a close run thing ...
Three days ago, i spent about 3 hours doin the NM run, maybe 10% fail, if that, no problems ... now im only completing 50% in NM
Would be nice for someone else who has done the run many times to pipe in on NM and HM
i'm dervish but i just made the run in NM, no problems just like always. never could get it to work in HM for D/Rt. not enough armor and/or HP.
Antithesis
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Originally Posted by capblye
As to why run it HM ... gold drops and dyes are far better than crappy whites in NM
Thanks Captain Obvious...i'll reiterate, why bother doing it in HM if destroyer cores are just as likely if not more likely to drop in NM - isn't that the point of the run?
capblye
LOL, if im Captain Obvious, then you must be Commander Pointless ...
Your question is pointless, as if you reread my post, i was quoting someone who misinformed by saying it could be done in HM with W/Rt ... Im saying i dont agree as i have tried repeatedly based on the W/Rt + R Hero and it doesnt work out anything like the Video.
And who says the point of the farm is JUST for DCores? Maybe for YOU, but not for ME
Get it now? Or must i state more of the obvious?
Thanks for the input Joshuarodger ... im sure you had no problem, as i dont either some of the time, but more and more, the destroyers on the right are killing off the dwarves faster than the ones on the left, so you start getting hit before your fully swarmed from both sides. This causes VwK not to be AS effective as it should be when getting hit from both sides. So you activate it earleir than you should and you dont get the full effect, plus, its gone too soon, and you get popped with a x5 Lament and x18 Spirit Rift chain that the other skills cannot keep up with.
The only time i get past the run is when both sides are close to swarming together, and i get the full effect of VwK.
That is happening less than it was a month ago.
Im still hopin some regular farmers of this will pipe in about the state of the run.
And if someone beats HM with a W/Rt + R Hero run, please let me know how ya did it!
Your question is pointless, as if you reread my post, i was quoting someone who misinformed by saying it could be done in HM with W/Rt ... Im saying i dont agree as i have tried repeatedly based on the W/Rt + R Hero and it doesnt work out anything like the Video.
And who says the point of the farm is JUST for DCores? Maybe for YOU, but not for ME
Get it now? Or must i state more of the obvious?
Thanks for the input Joshuarodger ... im sure you had no problem, as i dont either some of the time, but more and more, the destroyers on the right are killing off the dwarves faster than the ones on the left, so you start getting hit before your fully swarmed from both sides. This causes VwK not to be AS effective as it should be when getting hit from both sides. So you activate it earleir than you should and you dont get the full effect, plus, its gone too soon, and you get popped with a x5 Lament and x18 Spirit Rift chain that the other skills cannot keep up with.
The only time i get past the run is when both sides are close to swarming together, and i get the full effect of VwK.
That is happening less than it was a month ago.
Im still hopin some regular farmers of this will pipe in about the state of the run.
And if someone beats HM with a W/Rt + R Hero run, please let me know how ya did it!
Antithesis
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Originally Posted by capblye
LOL, if im Captain Obvious, then you must be Commander Pointless ...
Thanks, i like that. My cat's breath smells like cat food
You might want to re-read your own post, there's no quote and you're clearly responding to why it should be farmed in HM not NM, and mine was the post to ask that question.
The thread and run is primarily for destroyer core farming or can't you read thread titles either
You might want to re-read your own post, there's no quote and you're clearly responding to why it should be farmed in HM not NM, and mine was the post to ask that question.
The thread and run is primarily for destroyer core farming or can't you read thread titles either
capblye
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Originally Posted by Antithesis
You might want to re-read your own post, there's no quote and you're clearly responding to why it should be farmed in HM not NM, and mine was the post to ask that question.
Put your glasses on Pls :-P
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...9&postcount=13
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...9&postcount=13
Antithesis
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Originally Posted by capblye
boarderx
HM nets you better drops and at least max weapons
NM gives you non-max weps and some golds
cores drop the same in both so if its simply cores you want do which ever is faster for you
if you want drops and cores then go HM (if your able to farm it)
its that simple, stop ripping each other's heads off, lol
NM gives you non-max weps and some golds
cores drop the same in both so if its simply cores you want do which ever is faster for you
if you want drops and cores then go HM (if your able to farm it)
its that simple, stop ripping each other's heads off, lol
joshuarodger
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Originally Posted by capblye
Thanks for the input Joshuarodger ... im sure you had no problem, as i dont either some of the time, but more and more, the destroyers on the right are killing off the dwarves faster than the ones on the left, so you start getting hit before your fully swarmed from both sides. This causes VwK not to be AS effective as it should be when getting hit from both sides. So you activate it earleir than you should and you dont get the full effect, plus, its gone too soon, and you get popped with a x5 Lament and x18 Spirit Rift chain that the other skills cannot keep up with.
The way i deal with the right side going through faster is by waiting on the right side and not in the middle. Just like the video shows (i think. i haven't watched it in a while). I click on the dwarven scout nearest to me and watch his HP. when he only has about 1/4 hp i start the SQ->QZ chain on my ranger, wait for QZ to pop up on effects monitor and run in, activate armor skill and vwk and wait for second scout on right side to die. when he's dead i stand right on his corpse and do the run. I also take Sig. of Pious Light and Mend Body and Soul in case my HP gets too low from the lament, spirit rifts you're talking about. Of course SoPL is a Derv skill that you won't be able to take, but there's surely an E-free warrior heal, other than healing signet (-40 armor during activation). Maybe something related to adrenaline, sorry not too familiar with War skills. After the dwarven corpse disappears you stop getting hit with Lamentation and it's just a matter of micro-ing your rangers SQ->QZ chain along with your armor skill and VwK. Using hotkeys for your Hero skills is the best way i found to manage those skills and yours at the same time.
The times i really have problems is when the left side gets killed first. I think it works better to "thin out" the enemies on the right side (with VwK) before the left side starts to attack you. That way you don't get hit with as many Lament, SR's at the same time. I can show you in-game, if i'm not busy at the time, if you want. Add me and PM me if you see me online.
The way i deal with the right side going through faster is by waiting on the right side and not in the middle. Just like the video shows (i think. i haven't watched it in a while). I click on the dwarven scout nearest to me and watch his HP. when he only has about 1/4 hp i start the SQ->QZ chain on my ranger, wait for QZ to pop up on effects monitor and run in, activate armor skill and vwk and wait for second scout on right side to die. when he's dead i stand right on his corpse and do the run. I also take Sig. of Pious Light and Mend Body and Soul in case my HP gets too low from the lament, spirit rifts you're talking about. Of course SoPL is a Derv skill that you won't be able to take, but there's surely an E-free warrior heal, other than healing signet (-40 armor during activation). Maybe something related to adrenaline, sorry not too familiar with War skills. After the dwarven corpse disappears you stop getting hit with Lamentation and it's just a matter of micro-ing your rangers SQ->QZ chain along with your armor skill and VwK. Using hotkeys for your Hero skills is the best way i found to manage those skills and yours at the same time.
The times i really have problems is when the left side gets killed first. I think it works better to "thin out" the enemies on the right side (with VwK) before the left side starts to attack you. That way you don't get hit with as many Lament, SR's at the same time. I can show you in-game, if i'm not busy at the time, if you want. Add me and PM me if you see me online.
Antithesis
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Originally Posted by boarderx
its that simple, stop ripping each other's heads off, lol
It's just a bit of good-natured banter
capblye
I usually run NM Solo, and only tried the ranger hero in HM ... are you referring to HM Josh?
joshuarodger
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Originally Posted by capblye
I usually run NM Solo, and only tried the ranger hero in HM ... are you referring to HM Josh?
no, i'm referring to normal mode. i mistakenly thought you were too. sorry for the confusion. i always use my ranger so vwk can be on constantly. i guess if you're having problems maybe you should try the ranger method, otherwise i'm not really sure what to tell you. Good Luck though.
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