so I'm highly interested in a getting a set of obsidian armor for one of my chars. Problem is, I'm also liking some 15k armors for the character as well. I don't make a ton of money so it's not like I can just buy whatever whenever and never worry about my gold in my storage. I've casually saved up ectos (at 16 right now) and shards (3) and idk if I should keep saving up right now for obby armor or wait and buy the other 15k armors so I can get that craving out of the way and focus on obby only.
so, any suggestions here?
obby vs. 15k armor
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phan
most 15k sets > obsidian ;
but prestige > good looks [ for most people this is ]
Follow what you think looks the best
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but prestige > good looks [ for most people this is ]
Follow what you think looks the best
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Kattar
When do you want your armor? I say this because, at the rate you're going, it might take you til GW2 to get your armor. 
I personally don't like Obby. Would be kinda cool to see in on a Mes though, since I haven't in game.
I like the 15k's too much. Plus it's easier for my HoM to get those.
Pros and Cons all across the board, but mostly it's just what you can afford and what you like. Oh, and don't buy Obby for the prestige. The leet will always find some way to put you down, obby or no.
I personally don't like Obby. Would be kinda cool to see in on a Mes though, since I haven't in game.
I like the 15k's too much. Plus it's easier for my HoM to get those.
Pros and Cons all across the board, but mostly it's just what you can afford and what you like. Oh, and don't buy Obby for the prestige. The leet will always find some way to put you down, obby or no.
Randvek
FoW armor is common enough that I don't think there's much prestige involved in it. Skills in farming are far more common than skills in fashion! Seriously, go with the armor and you think looks good, choose your colors carefully, and revel in the fact that you're dressed better than most of the game.
Zamochit
I would personally check out the screenshots forum here for the character classes that you are considering kitting out, there are some very nice combos there in 1k/15k that look considerably nicer than most obsidian armours.
Bohya
Definetly go for the looks but some people might get the idea that you are too crap at the game and can't make money to buy dearer armour which might leave you unable to get into some PUGs.
I can't imagin who would think that though.
I can't imagin who would think that though.
Molock
Don't bother with the obby set.. there are many 15k sets out there that look better.
Dono
Depends what profession you are looking to get the armour for, if its warrior then i would avoid obsidian as its far too common. I allways like to see someone come up with thier own unique set, or a set of armour that is rarely seen
Tantra Existantance
I used to hate Obsidian for my Warrior, but I eventually got it and now I change my mind about it. I would prefer to have gotten it for my Necro, but I play my warrior most. I have 2 15k sets for warrior, and to be honest I mix & match them when I feel like it, it's all about personal preference.
Smile Like Umean It
War FoW (male or female) is definitely the worst armor in the whole game. I pick collector's armor over that.
Also, what class and gender are you talking about? FoW looks good for some, but not all. There are a lot of good looking 15k sets they are the first thing I look at when I decide I need new duds.
Also, what class and gender are you talking about? FoW looks good for some, but not all. There are a lot of good looking 15k sets they are the first thing I look at when I decide I need new duds.
quickmonty
Look up the armors on Wiki. Decide what YOU like, then save/work for it.
kerpall
There are sooo many websites that sell "FoW armour" do-it-youself kits, that anyone with a credit card can get one. I personally go for looks over "prestige" when it comes to armour, but i spoil myself in other ways instead 
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Crom The Pale
Buy the 15K, by the time youve saved up enough ectos and shards for Obsidian you'll have made back all the money spent on the 15K easily.
pamelf
Personally I think Obsidian is Fugly...so I'd go 15k.
Cargan
Depends on your profession really. As people have mentioned, if you're thinking of getting it for a warrior for prestige then just get a 15k set. Sadly, almost every warrior I've played with in Obsidian Armour has been an embarrasment to the warrior profession.
When choosing pugs I'd always choose a warrior without obsidian armour over one with obsidian armour.
When choosing pugs I'd always choose a warrior without obsidian armour over one with obsidian armour.
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When choosing pugs I'd always choose a warrior without obsidian armour over one with obsidian armour.
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To answer the OP, I personally saved up for fow and skipped the other armours. Sure walking around in 5k armour where most of the people around you are wearing more expensive stuff is no fun, but it really doesn't matter how much your stuff costs as long as you know what you're doing. So if theres an armour set you want now then get it, like one of the posts said you'll easily make it back saving up for fow. Though if theres no other armour set you want then keep saving.
Kook~NBK~
It's all a matter of personal preference. Like others have said, don't get armor for the prestige. Get it for your own sense of style, you're the one who looks at your characters all the time, not anyone else.
I've got 2 characters with "lowly" 1.5k armor because I like the way it looks better than the elite stuff. I've gotten a couple of comments about it, but I tell the knot-heads that I like it, and that's that.
If you decide you want the FoW stuff, and are up to the challenge of raising the cash to get it, go for it!
I've got 2 characters with "lowly" 1.5k armor because I like the way it looks better than the elite stuff. I've gotten a couple of comments about it, but I tell the knot-heads that I like it, and that's that.
If you decide you want the FoW stuff, and are up to the challenge of raising the cash to get it, go for it!
Quru
It really depends on profession. If you are paragon or necro, then FoW is good. Everything else, no.
The Way Out
Get Obsidian Armor. Everyone I play with sets you apart from other people because of it. It generally means that you are capable of getting a lot of gold. It also means that you know the game a little bit. Some will argue that you can buy your gold on ebay (they are angry because they don't have obi armor, ignore them, they flame... you'll see). However, not everyone buys their gold on ebay... there are a few honest people left.
Getting Obsidian Armor meant a lot to me, because I was grinding hard for it. I completed UW and FoW over and over again. I ran missions for people, power traded... and within a week I had my Obsidian Armor and other people became motivated to do the same.
Don't just stop there though. Get your titles, etc... because people notice stuff like that and you learn a lot about the game that way. Getting into Pugs gets a bit easier, and along the way, you become good, if not great. Lastly, if FoW is too expensive for you, get three sets of 15k and fill your HoM. No matter what, do what sounds good. I typically like Obsidian armor. Call it vain, however, I like walking around with weapons and armor most people will never see in the game.
Getting Obsidian Armor meant a lot to me, because I was grinding hard for it. I completed UW and FoW over and over again. I ran missions for people, power traded... and within a week I had my Obsidian Armor and other people became motivated to do the same.
Don't just stop there though. Get your titles, etc... because people notice stuff like that and you learn a lot about the game that way. Getting into Pugs gets a bit easier, and along the way, you become good, if not great. Lastly, if FoW is too expensive for you, get three sets of 15k and fill your HoM. No matter what, do what sounds good. I typically like Obsidian armor. Call it vain, however, I like walking around with weapons and armor most people will never see in the game.
Smile Like Umean It
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That's just stupid imo, even if some of the warriors in fow don't know how to play the chances that one with 700k armour knows what to do over someone with 60k armour is much higher.
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The Way Out
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Not really. The 60k person could have multiple sets of FoW for other characters. You never know, which is why I'm going to agree with you that it's a stupid thing to pick someone based on (max) armor, though.
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Sir Seifus Halbred
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most 15k sets > obsidian ;
but prestige > good looks [ for most people this is ] Follow what you think looks the best x |
The Way Out
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and most 1.5k sets pwn 15k and obsidian...
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iridescentfyre
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but prestige > good looks [ for most people this is ]
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Oukanna
lol some people like to show off and others are happy not to.
I personally go for armours i like, sometimes if i get stuck between 2 i ask some guildies what they think looks pretty cool for my character.
Also i mix and match mine, at the moment for my ele i wear ancient armour boots and legs and 15k luxon top and arms, i like how it looks :-)
I personally go for armours i like, sometimes if i get stuck between 2 i ask some guildies what they think looks pretty cool for my character.
Also i mix and match mine, at the moment for my ele i wear ancient armour boots and legs and 15k luxon top and arms, i like how it looks :-)
Dante the Warlord
Obsidian armor has nothing to do with prestige now , trust me, i know a lotta players who just bought the gold online. To me, an individual and unique armor combination is the most prestige kind of armor. If you can make a nice combination, fishing all over guildwiki to find great pieces of an armor, then that is true prestige, although sometimes obsidian armor may have a piece or two that looks great.
Smile Like Umean It
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Generally speaking... how many people do you know own FoW and don't wear it as their primary set? Also, one set of FoW equals over eleven sets of 15k... so... I generally choose the FoW guy... ask him to ping his bar... and either accept or kick him. Easily done. Nothing leet about it, I can just separate the ebayer from the gamer.
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Personally, I don't even bother looking at someone's armor unless they walk up to me or load by to me.
Also, I said they could have other characters who used FoW while they're current character didn't... just in case you misread something.
Sir Seifus Halbred
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That's just stupid imo, even if some of the warriors in fow don't know how to play the chances that one with 700k armour knows what to do over someone with 60k armour is much higher.
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I am sorry but I think YOUR opinion is stupid....
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Its very alarming to me how many people think this way in Guild Wars. How could anything other than the owner's opinion on the armor appearance matter?
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Anyhow you did take this important part out of his quote...
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I would rather tank naked as a monk, than wear 1.5k.
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kerpall
I gotta agree with "The Way Out" . Having more expencive items, in most cases (not always, but 80% of the time) means you are capable of earning that much cash. In order to be capable of earning that, you obviously got to be good at the game. FoW almost gives you "veteran" status. While there are lots of gold buyers (more popular in asia) , it doesnt meen every FoW was bought online. Maybe every 2 out of 10 , but you just gotta check for their titles. Leet titles + FoW usually means its Legit. You cant buy titles for cash( kind of big deal, vanquish, guardian, leg. cartog, etc)!
Mr Pink57
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I gotta agree with "The Way Out" . Having more expencive items, in most cases (not always, but 80% of the time) means you are capable of earning that much cash. In order to be capable of earning that, you obviously got to be good at the game. FoW almost gives you "veteran" status. While there are lots of gold buyers (more popular in asia) , it doesnt meen every FoW was bought online. Maybe every 2 out of 10 , but you just gotta check for their titles. Leet titles + FoW usually means its Legit. You cant buy titles for cash( kind of big deal, vanquish, guardian, leg. cartog, etc)!
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Marty Silverblade
Who says that your armor skin determines how good you are. I've got 1k Pyromancers (or whatever it's called now) on my ele because I prefer it over the 15k set, and probably the FoW set too.
Go with what you like, if someone thinks you're a noob for having less expensive armor, ignore them. Imo anyone who brags excessively about having FoW ebayed it anyway.
Go with what you like, if someone thinks you're a noob for having less expensive armor, ignore them. Imo anyone who brags excessively about having FoW ebayed it anyway.
kerpall
These things arent my opinion, but fact:
more expencive armor = people assume your better at game than 1k armour users.
a similar situation:
higher pvp rank = people assume your better at pvp than rankless user.
I'm just stating what i see, i can't control what the general gameplayer thinks.
Do you understand this logic? Whether you think how expensive someones armour reflects on their skill or not.
The majority of guildwars players WILL pick the guy with "obsidian" armour over the non-obsidian wearer. Or the 15k over the 1k.
It's called Bias, a condition ALL humans suffer from.
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~You can't buy Cartographer titles, they require the user to actually move themselves around map.
~You can't buy Skill Hunter titles, they require the user to capture the skills themselves.
~Yes, i suppose you could buy Vanquisher, i doubt any website sells vanquisher titles. But i could be wrong.
~Yes, Guardian titles could also be bought, and completed via runner.
~Allegiance titles Cannot be bought (asura, dwarf, norn, vanguard, lightbringer, sunspear, etc) They require you to get a bounty. Cannot be afk'd
~Defender of ascalon Cannot be bought
~Champion, Hero, Gladiator, Commander, and Gamer titles also cannot be bought.
~Consumable titles could be bought.
~ Kind of Big Deal can be bought, only up to a certain point. People with "God Walking amongst mere mortals", obviously couldnt have bought the title.
(by "bought" , i meen through Gold websites , like Real Cash for GW cash)
more expencive armor = people assume your better at game than 1k armour users.
a similar situation:
higher pvp rank = people assume your better at pvp than rankless user.
I'm just stating what i see, i can't control what the general gameplayer thinks.
Do you understand this logic? Whether you think how expensive someones armour reflects on their skill or not.
The majority of guildwars players WILL pick the guy with "obsidian" armour over the non-obsidian wearer. Or the 15k over the 1k.
It's called Bias, a condition ALL humans suffer from.
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You can buy everyone of those titles.
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~You can't buy Skill Hunter titles, they require the user to capture the skills themselves.
~Yes, i suppose you could buy Vanquisher, i doubt any website sells vanquisher titles. But i could be wrong.
~Yes, Guardian titles could also be bought, and completed via runner.
~Allegiance titles Cannot be bought (asura, dwarf, norn, vanguard, lightbringer, sunspear, etc) They require you to get a bounty. Cannot be afk'd
~Defender of ascalon Cannot be bought
~Champion, Hero, Gladiator, Commander, and Gamer titles also cannot be bought.
~Consumable titles could be bought.
~ Kind of Big Deal can be bought, only up to a certain point. People with "God Walking amongst mere mortals", obviously couldnt have bought the title.
(by "bought" , i meen through Gold websites , like Real Cash for GW cash)
strcpy
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Who says that your armor skin determines how good you are. I've got 1k Pyromancers (or whatever it's called now) on my ele because I prefer it over the 15k set, and probably the FoW set too.
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All my current characters have the exact armor they want - I have MORE than enough gold for anything I want and that has nothing to do with it. Mostly it is a mix of normal and ascended armors, in no case did I prefer the Obsidian armor.
If you did prefer one, then good for you - it is all personal opinion. I can't argue with that nor would I. I find some females attractive others don't, I see some globally popular females I wouldn't touch with a 50ft pole. That is how personal opinion works - the only people I feel sorry for are the ones who really like obsidian yet do not have enough time to play to grind out the gold (though I don't feel sorry enough to give you gold).
If you think it somehow proves you are good (even in conjunction with a specific title)? Well then thankfully I have hench/hero to play with and can ignore you.
Doll
Primeval with 1k Kurzick Leggins > female Ele Obs tbh
Like many have said, it depends on which class and if *you* like it or not. To me, the only Obs worth getting are male Ele, female Mes, Monk and Derv. The rest are just not that great and a waste of money.
Like many have said, it depends on which class and if *you* like it or not. To me, the only Obs worth getting are male Ele, female Mes, Monk and Derv. The rest are just not that great and a waste of money.
kerpall
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If you think it somehow proves you are good (even in conjunction with a specific title)? Well then thankfully I have hench/hero to play with and can ignore you.
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You have to admit, the reason we have titles is to show experience and how good we are at the game.
I would consider anyone with a higher ranked title than me to be better than me anyday.
Person with Legendary Guardian = better than person w/o masters (or bonus) in any of their misions? Yes!
Person with FoW w/o titles = good chance they ebayed it
Person with FoW w/ titles = good chance they are legit
here comes the tricky part...
Person w/ 15k + r1 KoBD OR Person w/ 1k + r6 KoBD ? who's better?
Boone
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Please tell me this, Is a Person with "God walking amongst mere mortals", and Fow armour better than a titleless person with 1k armour?
You have to admit, the reason we have titles is to show experience and how good we are at the game. I would consider anyone with a higher ranked title than me to be better than me anyday. Person with Legendary Guardian = better than person w/o masters (or bonus) in any of their misions? Yes! Person with FoW w/o titles = good chance they ebayed it Person with FoW w/ titles = good chance they are legit here comes the tricky part... Person w/ 15k + r1 KoBD OR Person w/ 1k + r6 KoBD ? who's better? |
I know enough people that are really good at this game but don't have any titles or lots of money, it depends if the person would want to spend time to get the titles/gold. (and most take a while) personally I don't get many titles at all unless they're really easy to get
(like when cantha prot is 11/13
Shadow of Light
I suggest you get what you like. I think, though, that by the time you've gathered enough ectos and shards and other materials you'll also have gathered more than enough gold to buy several sets of 15k armour.
That said, I suggest that if you really like a certain set of 15k and can afford it, go ahead and get it now. You can always continue to farm for obsidian if you really want to, and by the time you've got all the materials you'll have enough gold for more elite armour anyway.
Again, get what you like. There are plenty of pictures of all the armour sets available.
That said, I suggest that if you really like a certain set of 15k and can afford it, go ahead and get it now. You can always continue to farm for obsidian if you really want to, and by the time you've got all the materials you'll have enough gold for more elite armour anyway.
Again, get what you like.
There are plenty of pictures of all the armour sets available.
t00115577
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Please tell me this, Is a Person with "God walking amongst mere mortals", and Fow armour better than a titleless person with 1k armour?
You have to admit, the reason we have titles is to show experience and how good we are at the game. I would consider anyone with a higher ranked title than me to be better than me anyday. Person with Legendary Guardian = better than person w/o masters (or bonus) in any of their misions? Yes! Person with FoW w/o titles = good chance they ebayed it Person with FoW w/ titles = good chance they are legit here comes the tricky part... Person w/ 15k + r1 KoBD OR Person w/ 1k + r6 KoBD ? who's better? |
Also people who say all obby armour is ugly, What was that? did i hear someone say hater? This armour is not ugly, its designed to be the best graphically so it stands out.
I grinded my ass to get mine and r2 koabd, i consider myself fairly good at the game, but i know people who cant be bothered with obby armour who are better than myself at the game.
Its all about personal prefference really and i think people flaming other players with 1.5k armour isnt fair. Hell i have my trusty set of 1.5k leather armour that i wear almost every second day for trapping, and i honestly think it looks well good, dyed brown on male ranger.
Well this is my opinion on it all lol, feel free to criticise me
ill be back on to flame you rofl
Firestone
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added: ~You can't buy Cartographer titles, they require the user to actually move themselves around map. ~You can't buy Skill Hunter titles, they require the user to capture the skills themselves. ~Yes, i suppose you could buy Vanquisher, i doubt any website sells vanquisher titles. But i could be wrong. ~Yes, Guardian titles could also be bought, and completed via runner. ~Allegiance titles Cannot be bought (asura, dwarf, norn, vanguard, lightbringer, sunspear, etc) They require you to get a bounty. Cannot be afk'd ~Defender of ascalon Cannot be bought ~Champion, Hero, Gladiator, Commander, and Gamer titles also cannot be bought. ~Consumable titles could be bought. ~ Kind of Big Deal can be bought, only up to a certain point. People with "God Walking amongst mere mortals", obviously couldnt have bought the title. (by "bought" , i meen through Gold websites , like Real Cash for GW cash) |
you can buy skill hunter.. using elite skill tomes -> 3 campaigns + 1 for all title (total 4 titles max)
you can buy party / alcohol / sugar title -> 3 max
you can buy wisdom title -> 1
you can find runners for guardian / protector -> 8 titles
you can buy survivor title -> leeching xp
you can find ppl to make defender of ascalon for you -> yes! i know people being paid $200 for helping the other person on and afk @ night
you can buy hero title -> 3k/ point..
to get KoBD title.. you need 5 titles to max -> listing all possible max title, 1 can get 17 titles maxed...
personally, i own 4 Fow armors coz i like them...
but till now, i only have 2 max titles... i don't like to grid, i like to stay afk in town and dance, interact with people, and to buy and sell stuff..
i don't scam ppl, nor do i buy /sell gold in ebay...
thor hammerbane
Pretty much the only way to get obsidian in a short duration of time is either overfarming like mad, or getting lucky with some uber rare drop. I personally dislike most fow armors, the only exception being male mesmer fow. I'm a casual pvp/pve player, and there is no way i will farm to get all the recquired items. Perhaps if i get some leet shit from z chest, then i will. Till then, my 1k luxon looks just spankin'
Personal preference is the answer here. Get what you like the most, no matter the price. You may like a 1k armor more than a 15k one; it's no reason not to get it because it's not 15k.
Personal preference is the answer here. Get what you like the most, no matter the price. You may like a 1k armor more than a 15k one; it's no reason not to get it because it's not 15k.