Are there any builds for this?

Jake_Steel

Jake_Steel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Portland, OR

The Older Gamers (TOG)

N/Me

I have a W/E I created specifically to be able to use Conjure Flame/Frost/Lightning in a build.

Are there any decent "Spellblade" (for lack of a decent name) builds built around this? (I would only use one Element at a time based on the weapon I was using.)

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

conjure cripslash comes to mind

JDRyder

JDRyder

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

Great temple of Balthazar

Mo/Me

[skill]eviscerate[/skill][skill]executioner's strike[/skill][skill]disrupting chop[/skill][skill]bull's strike[/skill][skill]conjure frost[/skill][skill]frenzy[/skill][skill]rush[/skill]

chop chop
Those three are relatively bad.

Take a standard Dragon Slash or Crippling Slash build, put in a Conjure, done.

Quote: Nobody cares about the healing or degen from vampiric.

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Seeing as your going to have to spec in alot just to get any use in. What else are you speccing in that you can't put 10 in an element?

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Which if you get shocky weapon, cant get lifestealing now can ya? Who cares about +3 lifestealing when you get +15 damage?

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

standard triple chop + conjure or standard Dslash + conjure

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

I really like my Whirling Axe + Conjure Lightning build, deals fast constant dmg with great spikes.


Edit: This build is extremely good vs Destroyers since your using a skill every attack & stealing hp from them with your Dwarven title up

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

Not blaming you Splitisoda but those builds should only be used as foundations, they really aren't that great.

Quote:
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/E_Icy_Dragon
The Icy Dragon is bad because it's not utilizing the second best adrenaline engine in game, sever + gashing everyone is not scary nor is it very deadly on the same target. WY is fine but SY is far superior and a res isn't really needed (unless pugging). At least put Enraging charge to help set up Flail first hit.

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http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/...Hundred_Blades 100 Blades is just bad fullstop. There's no +damage, it's a energy skill with a recharge and the AOE is very unreliable.

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http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/E_Whirling_Warrior It's a gimmicky skill and really that build is a 'fun' build.

Biostem

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

If I may make a suggestion: perhaps consider using something like barbs to give unconditional bonus damage from your physical attacks...

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biostem
If I may make a suggestion: perhaps consider using something like barbs to give unconditional bonus damage from your physical attacks... If you were going to do that, you should just put it on a Necro primary so that you can get barbs AND mark of pain at a higher potency, and then you may as well just put together an SS. The thing with Conjure is that once you kill the enemy, you still have the buff, as opposed to barbs, which ends as soon as you kill.

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake_Steel
Are there any decent "Spellblade" (for lack of a decent name) builds built around this? (I would only use one Element at a time based on the weapon I was using.) [skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Shock[/skill][skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill]

Personally I'd prefer Disrupting Chop on there too, but if you're not running Tactics or a ton of Strength you can afford to pump up Air Magic a bit.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biostem
If I may make a suggestion: perhaps consider using something like barbs to give unconditional bonus damage from your physical attacks... If he is running any conjure or "spellslasher" build, he is no longer doing physical attacks, so barbs is useless in this build situation.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by iridescentfyre
[skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Shock[/skill][skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill]

Personally I'd prefer Disrupting Chop on there too, but if you're not running Tactics or a ton of Strength you can afford to pump up Air Magic a bit. Uhhhh, I can see it working but you'll be hitting a lot of energy problems

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by blue.rellik
Uhhhh, I can see it working but you'll be hitting a lot of energy problems Don't see many more problems really than a standard shockaxe - that 10e for conjure is just once every 60 secs; it just means you lose the benefits of conjure when you need to use your zealous axe to frenzy some more.

The real problem I see with running Conjure on an axe, is that you'll start to bite a lot of Spirit Bonds, and hitting a RoF with a heavy attack will hinder you more.
Oh, and you lose a potentially useful skill. DChop is fun, fun, fun! as is Distracting Strike.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

I guess so, it's just that you'll have to switch out to a zealous (meaning you lose the conjure damage)

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Splitisoda

Those 3 all have conjure. But I don't think you should go W/E for Conjure. Seeing as your going to have to spec in alot just to get any use in. And will have to have shocky weapon, icy weapon, etc. Which if you get shocky weapon, cant get lifestealing now can ya?
Have you ever played a war before? Or are you just worried about losing your Healing Prayers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
Take a standard Dragon Slash or Crippling Slash build, put in a Conjure, done. Best advice.

kel77

kel77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Deep South

The Arctic Marauders[TAM] Former Leader and Officer | [SMS] Alliance

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
Have you ever played a war before? Or are you just worried about losing your Healing Prayers?
Lmao best quote EVER!
Anyway, conjure is straight p00n, don't listen to this crap about barbs.

Splitisoda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

STALKER!

Not in One

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
Have you ever played a war before? Or are you just worried about losing your Healing Prayers?


Best advice. Yah, I have played a war before. So i herd Conjure has a long recharge. And YES there ARE such things as enchant stripping in pve and pvp.

I'd rather have lifestealing. Its pretty much saving a little bit more of the trouble of healing yourself.

If you don't like the degen from lifestealing, use Mending like most people do

Reinfire

Reinfire

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Amsterdam, NL

The Guild of Cunning Artificiers [ANKH]

W/

Conjure is a decent addition to an AoE Axe build, but in single targetting builds its just a waste of skill slot.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Splitisoda
Yah, I have played a war before. So i herd Conjure has a long recharge. And YES there ARE such things as enchant stripping in pve and pvp.
You generally know who has enchant removals beforehand, so guess what, you can plan for that.

Quote: I'd rather have lifestealing. Its pretty much saving a little bit more of the trouble of healing yourself.

If you don't like the degen from lifestealing, use Mending like most people do
Originally Posted by Reinfire
Conjure is a decent addition to an AoE Axe build, but in single targetting builds its just a waste of skill slot. Wrong.

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinfire
Conjure is a decent addition to an AoE Axe build, but in single targetting builds its just a waste of skill slot. How exactly do you plan on running a conjure on a Triple chop/Cyclone axe build without a Zealous mod to recharge your energy since your spaming these skills as fast as they recharge?

On an AoE axe build the only skill I would want tossed on would be Splinter Weapon and I'd have a Rit primary do that for me.

On a single target axe build the conjure is a fantasic bost to your every attack, with it you can actually deal more dmg with out using any other skills than some wars do WITH skills.

Reinfire

Reinfire

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Amsterdam, NL

The Guild of Cunning Artificiers [ANKH]

W/

If you use Whirlwind Attack instead of Cyclone Axe you shouldnt have much energy problems

kel77

kel77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Deep South

The Arctic Marauders[TAM] Former Leader and Officer | [SMS] Alliance

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Splitisoda
Yah, I have played a war before. So i herd Conjure has a long recharge. And YES there ARE such things as enchant stripping in pve and pvp.

If you don't like the degen from lifestealing, use Mending like most people do Not only does he still argue that conjure is bad, he is actually advocating using mending...

[skill]Mending[/skill]
Splitisoda, what are your thoughts on the combo of [skill]Frenzy[/skill] and [skill]Healing Signet[/skill]

Keekles

Keekles

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Floating amongst the ethereal seas of placating breezes.

Like A [Boss]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kel77
Not only does he still argue that conjure is bad, he is actually advocating using mending...

[skill]Mending[/skill]
Splitisoda, what are your thoughts on the combo of [skill]Frenzy[/skill] and [skill]Healing Signet[/skill] I'm not splitisoda, but I think [skill]Frenzy[/skill] [skill]Healing Signet[/skill] = win.

Back on Topic: Conjures are great. Although they do take a sizable investment, they can add a nice increase in your damage. I carry elemental, vamp, and zealous weapons at all times, so if my conjure is removed, I can swap to a different weapon if I need to (vamp).

And -1 from a vamp weapon is easily fixed by swapping to a different weapon set.

Ultimate Eye

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

Just my 2 cents
As someone said, Conjure + Dragon Slash works very good, i use the following build:

Dragon Slash
Sun and Moon Slash
Galrath (or Silverwing) Slash
Conjure Frost/Fire/Lighting
Flail
For Great Justice
Enraging Charge (hope it's the correct name in english >_> )
Lion's Comfort

With 12 Str, 12 Sword, 9 Water and 5 Tact if i remember well.

I know it's not AoE damage (for which you should consider Splinter Weapon) but this build grants a high DPS and a good self-healing ^^'

max_rulez

max_rulez

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Fallit Imago [Fi]

W/

Having 12, 12, 9 and 5 is impossible... Would've thought he means :
12 Sword
9 Str
9 Elemental
3 tactics
also would recommend something more like:
Whirlwind
Dragon Slash
"Save Yourselves"
Flail
Conjure Frost/Fire/Lighting
For Great Justice
Enraging Charge
Res Sig

tipiak

tipiak

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Hellsace

F*ck Yeah Ion Cannons [dBal]

W/

I'm using :

conjure whatever
"for great justice !"
"i'm the strongest!"
enraging charge
flail
brawling headbutt
steelfang slash
dragon slash

Spell your conjure, shout like a furious norn, charge on your opponent, scream for justice, flail and dragon slash like a furious berserker. When you're out of FGJ, just maintain flail and do headbutt -> steelfang -> DS until your ennemy is dead meat.

Cons : there are a lot of zones with enchants debuffs.