Pouring out the pwnage

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

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^ Was thinking the same thing.

There are much better topics to hijack a thread with than more GW2 nonsense.

Taki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
We have no idea how the damage mechanics will work in GW2.

So therefore, why are we discussing it.

To paraphrase Malice "Every time a GW2 thread is created, God kills a kitten."
The "discussion" was to see if people would want level to matter or not, since it matters in every other mmo-esque game. Anyway, game set, and match to BlackSephir

P.S... kittens are noobs and deserve to die.

Buster

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

First of all I have no problems with GW2 threads because people are eager and excited about hearing news about GW2. So there is no such things as GW2 nonsense. Did some people think there wouldn't be GW2 threads since it will be the biggest news of 2008/2009 for GW2 fans/players ? You can't fault people for being excited about GW2.

OP we have no idea how exactly it is going to work but for pvp I would think everyone will be the same level. For pve to me it doesn't matter if a level 40 is more powerful than a level 20 because there will be no pking in pve areas and we will be getting the sidekick system. We just have to wait for more info

Kattar

Kattar

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No, you can't fault them for being excited, but it's two years away. (Ok, that may be an exaggeration, but still, it's not coming out anytime soon.) You said it yourself:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
We just have to wait for more info
You wanna see two years of speculation about stuff? Most people here don't. And nothing people are saying is "news." At most it's unsubstantiated rumor and gossip.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming...

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

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levels become worth less over time
anet will make it much easyier to level than in other games (like WoW)

/peace

The Way Out

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin
Because you think optical illusions don't exist maybe? Re-read my post, I never said or implied that it's not real. It's simply a mistaken attitude.



I think you're much better at the game than at understanding what I said. Me a poet? You could make some people laugh by saying that



Welcome to the real world buddy! Some people have the PvP attitude as a standard mode of reply in a discussion, they'll slap you a "retarded philosophy" spell in the face making obvious what they would call the "fail".

GG to the humble l33t guy, who's obviously not chatting on this epic thread.
You did say leetness is an illusion. I didn't make that up. Then you continued on with nonsense... reread your posts. I don't have any more effort for you.

The Way Out

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by enter_the_zone
Roughly translated : There are leet players. The minute you number yourself as one of them, you aren't leet, you're an egotistical shithead.

Other people will tell you if you are leet, it's not something you can decide for yourself, no matter how good you think you are.

Un-muddy enough?
This made me piss myself.... lol

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Katsumi Rikyu
No, you can't fault them for being excited, but it's two years away. (Ok, that may be an exaggeration, but still, it's not coming out anytime soon.) You said it yourself:

You wanna see two years of speculation about stuff? Most people here don't.
Judging by the amount of threads started regarding GW2 and the speculations in them, it seams Most people here DO.

Buster

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katsumi Rikyu
No, you can't fault them for being excited, but it's two years away.

You wanna see two years of speculation about stuff? Most people here don't. And nothing people are saying is "news." At most it's unsubstantiated rumor and gossip.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming...
Sorry but it is not 2 years away. Beta is the 2nd half of 2008 and it has already been stated that GW2 will be out sometime in 2009 with no specific date yet. GW2 was announced in late March of 2007, so if you are referring to this date then yes it was 2 years away from the date when it was announced but much time has passed since then.

Complaining about specualtion ? That is nothing new on these forums or any game forums. Complaining about something that happens everyday is kind of silly.

Kattar

Kattar

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Join Date: Mar 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
Judging by the amount of threads started regarding GW2 and the speculations in them, it seams Most people here DO.
People who don't frequent the forum or use the search button, for sure. But that's about it. You can't argue with the amount of GW2 posts that have been locked/deleted though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
no specific date yet
Exactly.


And I'm sure Malice or someone else will be along shortly.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

As I've said in the Sardelac threads, I think the incremental bonus attributable to levels beyond a certain point (e.g. level 20) should be minimal.

For example, providing something as trivial as one extra health per level beyond that "plateau" level. Sure...you could gain 20 more levels and be "better" than players at that lower level, but the difference would not be noticeable enough to consciously grind it out to get the benefit.

But that's just my opinion...

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Katsumi Rikyu
People who don't frequent the forum or use the search button, for sure. But that's about it. You can't argue with the amount of GW2 posts that have been locked/deleted though.

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That only proves that the mod's don't want to hear more about it, and they are not "most people here", they are clearly a minority.

This is afterall a FAN FORUM for GW and as such fans should be able to speculate about GW and GW2.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
That only proves that the mod's don't want to hear more about it, and they are not "most people here", they are clearly a minority.

This is afterall a FAN FORUM for GW and as such fans should be able to speculate about GW and GW2.
Have you read the forum rules? If not, I think you should take a look (and in particular the part that says "GwG reserves the rights, in its sole discretion, to edit, delete, or refuse to post any message or thread for any reason whatsoever." which is pretty standard anyway). We're not on an Anet forum, this forum is administered by these guys and they decide what is acceptable and not. And clearly, someone interested in the GW2 topic should use the search function and discover where most GW2 threads are going (i.e., nowhere).

And I'm wondering whether the mods are wondering whether this thread will go somewhere interesting. With all this l33tness and poetry around .

Kattar

Kattar

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Join Date: Mar 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin
Have you read the forum rules? If not, I think you should take a look (and in particular the part that says "GwG reserves the rights, in its sole discretion, to edit, delete, or refuse to post any message or thread for any reason whatsoever." which is pretty standard anyway). We're not on an Anet forum, this forum is administered by these guys and they decide what is acceptable and not. And clearly, someone interested in the GW2 topic should use the search function and discover where most GW2 threads are going (i.e., nowhere).

And I'm wondering whether the mods are wondering whether this thread will go somewhere interesting. With all this l33tness and poetry around .
Thanks, I was looking for that quote.

Stockholm

Stockholm

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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You missed the part above where it says
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GwG has the right, but not the obligation, to monitor any activity and content associated with the Online Services. GwG does not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any message.
The messages express the views of the author of the message, not the views of GwG
But you guy's really made me remember why I stayed away from Guru for 8 months, thanks.

Kattar

Kattar

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Join Date: Mar 2007

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Bottom line, threads were deleted for a reason. Mods represent the community. That's why they're mods.

If you want, I volunteer to delete all my posts in this thread. Anything I can do to make life better for you. Who knows, one of the mods may do it for us.

EDIT: Plus, I think Taki has refined his idea a little more and reposted it. So this thread is now even more useless.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

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Perhaps the OP should go play another game that doesn't give a shit about balance.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Common sense. The stronger your character is, the more damage he should deal. This isn't a question of balance. This is a question of should people that play 2 hours and five hours have equal rewards in GW2?

I personally think not.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Keep the level 20 cap, it works best.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

If you need 20 levels worth of extra power in order to dominate noobs, you have to face the fact that you're playing like a noob yourself.

Balance > all

Personette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taki
Why shouldn't he be able to lord over noobs who aren't even anywhere near his level. I mean they're noobs ffs!!! They deserve to be dominated!!! Eventually they can level up and pwn low lvl nubs too so what's the problem??
Your post makes me sad.

Biostem

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
Common sense. The stronger your character is, the more damage he should deal. This isn't a question of balance. This is a question of should people that play 2 hours and five hours have equal rewards in GW2?

I personally think not.
skill > time invested

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biostem
skill > time invested
Or, put another way : Brains before Brawn.

Personally, I can understand why some people here may have an issue with that

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biostem
skill > time invested
Common sense should play a role, nonetheless. I'm not saying that level 40's should be able to 1-hit-KO level 20's, just saying that it should make a difference, even if a subtle one.

Bluefeather

Bluefeather

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Philippines

[PNOY]

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I remember in the Old Days when we were rushing to get out of Pre-Searing even at level 1. And then run to Drok to get our Armor and cap an elite and then go back to Ascalon and do PVP. And the level 10 are complaining for being owned by low level noobs

And we were called "noobs" because we can beat level 10.

A noob player is when he join his lvl 1 character in pvp area and complained against lvl 20 characters who are picking on him.

Horus Moonlight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Me/Mo

All my opinions on this matter were already discussed. I'll just sum it up anyways:

When the level cap is reached, skill should take precedence over time invested when comparing the efficiency of 2 different players.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Way Out
Guildwars also forces the player to rely upon intelligence as opposed to level volume... which translates into an unbalanced game where intelligent people trump dumbasses. Smart people don't die fifty million times to get from point A to point B because they understand time, the enemy AI and aggro, and have common sense.
I agree with pretty much everything you have said The Way Out except for this. Are you serious when you wrote this or is it sarcasm?

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefeather
I remember in the Old Days when we were rushing to get out of Pre-Searing even at level 1. And then run to Drok to get our Armor and cap an elite and then go back to Ascalon and do PVP. And the level 10 are complaining for being owned by low level noobs

And we were called "noobs" because we can beat level 10.

A noob player is when he join his lvl 1 character in pvp area and complained against lvl 20 characters who are picking on him.
You're right - one should not have been called a noob while his lvl 1 character had endgame armour and an elite unavailable to the players who had not been rushed.

He should be called a cheater, a griefer and banned from the game for a week in order to have time to medidate upon his actions and rethink his whole purpose of living.

ShockValue

ShockValue

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Blood of the Martyr [Hope]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taki
I believe level difference is a variable in damage calculation.
Wrong. Next topic.

1char

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

It affects critical hit chances.

Still, the OP is retarded.

ShockValue

ShockValue

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Blood of the Martyr [Hope]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
It affects critical hit chances.
Yeah that's true. I amend my original dissertation on this subject to:

Mostly Wrong. Next Topic.

The Way Out

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horus Moonlight
When the level cap is reached, skill should take precedence over time invested when comparing the efficiency of 2 different players.



I agree with pretty much everything you have said The Way Out except for this. Are you serious when you wrote this or is it sarcasm?
No, I meant it. Intelligent players always trump people that are dumbasses. Intelligent people tend to do things the easiest, fastest way, with less obstruction, with the best gain possible, and generally adapt to each and every situation as needed. Dumbasses do things the only way they know how, and carry that same thinking into each and every situation. Intelligent people generally develop a high skill level, and dumbasses generally don't. I know it sounds harsh, but I know both kinds of people. I honestly don't mean to offend people either, however, when I say dumbass... I am talking about the people that are very closeminded and are prone to irratic rude behavior under the assumption that no one can tell them anything because they have all the answer.

On another note, I wanted to take the time out to thank the people that helped me understand the game better. Especially those people that continue to take the time out of their lives to help me develop farming builds and mission builds. You guys rock... and I can't wait until we tear apart gw2 together.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by cataphract
I have no sense of fun.
That's a shame.