this build any good?
vamp weapon, crit hitting for 95+5, no 20/20 unlocked for pvp
boon is there just to cover spirit strength from pious
tested it in ab. works great with a good monk. took out 3 luxon warriors + made a player ranger run away with just me and a good monk. hit the warriors for ~150 with chilling
Rt/D PvP. any good?
flclisgreat
neoflame
Since Spirit's Strength adds +damage, the amount of DPS it gives is dependent on the attack speed of the weapon you use; thus a scythe, with its slow attack speed, is a poor choice. Additionally, Pious Assault on that bar will strip Spirit's Strength, which is very bad.
Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by neoflame
Since Spirit's Strength adds +damage, the amount of DPS it gives is dependent on the attack speed of the weapon you use; thus a scythe, with its slow attack speed, is a poor choice. Additionally, Pious Assault on that bar will strip Spirit's Strength, which is very bad.
Nice reading.. Vital Boon is to cover SS so it is not stripped from Pious...
Seems like you are running this in AB right? Anything other then AB I would say just run dervish..
Nice reading.. Vital Boon is to cover SS so it is not stripped from Pious...
Seems like you are running this in AB right? Anything other then AB I would say just run dervish..
Taurus
Your build is too defensive for me... but you gave me and Idea hmm..
flclisgreat
not designed to be defensive. but that is the only logical weapon spell choice. weapon of aggression would be ideal, except 10e every 10 seconds is a little to much. and boon is to cover spirit. crit on near 2 outa 3 hits for 100 damage auto attackind isnt to bad imo.
Chael
Hard to be "too defensive" on a 60 AL character in frontline.
Arkantos
You're a squishy frontliner. This can work in RA/AB, but in serious PvP you're most likely going to be easily killed.
neoflame
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Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
Nice reading.. Vital Boon is to cover SS so it is not stripped from Pious...
Sorry I failed at reading a line that wasn't there when I posted?
Zahr Dalsk
I played Spirit's Strength a LOT in PvE/PvP.
And I can tell you it is epic fail in PvP. Seriously, if you want to deal melee damage, roll an Assassin or a Warrior or a REAL Dervish.
And I can tell you it is epic fail in PvP. Seriously, if you want to deal melee damage, roll an Assassin or a Warrior or a REAL Dervish.
Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
You're a squishy frontliner. This can work in RA/AB, but in serious PvP you're most likely going to be easily killed.
ohai
mai naem is executioner's striek
mai naem is executioner's striek
Div
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ohai
mai naem is executioner's striek Rt/W axe would be pretty deadly
At least better than Rt/D because of faster attack speed of the axe...
mai naem is executioner's striek Rt/W axe would be pretty deadly
At least better than Rt/D because of faster attack speed of the axe...
bosstweed
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Rt/W axe would be pretty deadly
At least better than Rt/D because of faster attack speed of the axe... I would think so too, but I have NEVER seen a Spirit's Strength warrior axe (or sword or hammer) build. Never ever ever. Everyone's para, assasin, ranger, and occasional derv...
At least better than Rt/D because of faster attack speed of the axe... I would think so too, but I have NEVER seen a Spirit's Strength warrior axe (or sword or hammer) build. Never ever ever. Everyone's para, assasin, ranger, and occasional derv...
flclisgreat
rt/w axe build i came up with. thoughts?
master of damage in there to
master of damage in there to
blue.rellik
- For Great Justice + Wild Blow? My brain cannot compute....
- Vital Weapon? I personally prefer either Weapon of Aggression or Splinter Weapon to trigger SS
- I'd drop Furious Axe, Swift Chop and Wild Blow for something like Dismember or another adrenaline attack or use something like YMLAD
- Vital Weapon? I personally prefer either Weapon of Aggression or Splinter Weapon to trigger SS
- I'd drop Furious Axe, Swift Chop and Wild Blow for something like Dismember or another adrenaline attack or use something like YMLAD
flclisgreat
how about this?
GrimEye
I like Spirit Strength build. But the real problem with spirit strength build is not really damage dealing but survivability. That's why many choose secondary range physicals (ranger and para) for the SS build. Going melee, especially in PVP, is not really advisable.
I have Rt/W SS build that uses bonetti's defense but I've never use it in PVP. However, I've used it extensively in PVE (H/H not with pugs) with a good result, not great, but good enough.
And I have an armor set with some Ghost Forge insignias specifically for Spirit Strength build.
My take.
I have Rt/W SS build that uses bonetti's defense but I've never use it in PVP. However, I've used it extensively in PVE (H/H not with pugs) with a good result, not great, but good enough.
And I have an armor set with some Ghost Forge insignias specifically for Spirit Strength build.
My take.
Div
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Originally Posted by bosstweed
I would think so too, but I have NEVER seen a Spirit's Strength warrior axe (or sword or hammer) build. Never ever ever. Everyone's para, assasin, ranger, and occasional derv...
The biggest problem is that most of the best warrior attacks are adrenaline based (as expected), and the biggest advantage of the rt/w over the w primary is more energy regen allowing for more energy based attacks. However, since they for the most part suck, no one really brings rt/w.
Taurus
I was trying weapon of agression + attacker's insight Rt/D, kinda works for low-end pvp types like ABs.
But your build seriously need a running skill and e-manage, running the build mod with weapon of agression its dps is around 49, about the as same as a shock/axe cept for -56 armor.
Conclusion : Wanna use it, play PvE or AB, not suitable for RA or HA.
But your build seriously need a running skill and e-manage, running the build mod with weapon of agression its dps is around 49, about the as same as a shock/axe cept for -56 armor.
Conclusion : Wanna use it, play PvE or AB, not suitable for RA or HA.
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
The biggest problem is that most of the best warrior attacks are adrenaline based (as expected), and the biggest advantage of the rt/w over the w primary is more energy regen allowing for more energy based attacks. However, since they for the most part suck, no one really brings rt/w.
I use a Rt/W with a sword 
Div
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Originally Posted by blue.rellik
I use a Rt/W with a sword
Rt/W axe at least has the ability to spam cyclone axe. What does sword have? Power attack? :P Noob!
Rt/W axe at least has the ability to spam cyclone axe. What does sword have? Power attack? :P Noob!
TGgold
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Rt/W axe at least has the ability to spam cyclone axe. What does sword have? Power attack? :P Noob!
For PvE I used:
Rt/W (+15AL under weapon spell)
Spec into: Chanelling, Axe, Spawning
Core of Build:
Cyclone Axe
Whirlwind Attack
Splinter Weapon
Sight Beyond Sight (or another cover enchant)
Spirit's Stregth
Death Pact Signet
Optional Skills: (pick 2)
Ancestor's Rage
Nightmare Weapon
Warmonger's Weapon
Disrupting Chop/Blow
Dismember + Agonizing Chop
Keen Chop
Swift Chop
Rt/W (+15AL under weapon spell)
Spec into: Chanelling, Axe, Spawning
Core of Build:
Cyclone Axe
Whirlwind Attack
Splinter Weapon
Sight Beyond Sight (or another cover enchant)
Spirit's Stregth
Death Pact Signet
Optional Skills: (pick 2)
Ancestor's Rage
Nightmare Weapon
Warmonger's Weapon
Disrupting Chop/Blow
Dismember + Agonizing Chop
Keen Chop
Swift Chop
spirit of defeat
I prefer a war
Tyla
I used to run a rit with a sword...
Yup, on the frontline...but I loved their sword attack animation!
Yup, on the frontline...but I loved their sword attack animation!
the Puppeteer
need more 
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Rt/W axe at least has the ability to spam cyclone axe. What does sword have? Power attack? :P Noob!
Pfffffft! I can spend two skill slots on getting my deep wound. Beat that!
bosstweed
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Rt/W axe at least has the ability to spam cyclone axe. What does sword have? Power attack? :P Noob!
What does a sword have for a rit?
Complete.
Badass-ery.
Complete.
Badass-ery.
Cosmic Error
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Originally Posted by bosstweed
What does a sword have for a rit?
Complete.
Badass-ery. Agree'd. Unfortunately, sword, spear, ax, and hammer attacks all rely mostly on adrenaline, and casters do far better with energy-based weaponry. (Bows, scythes, and daggers)
Also, as stated before, weapon of agression at least partially makes up for the scythe's slow attack speed.
Complete.
Badass-ery. Agree'd. Unfortunately, sword, spear, ax, and hammer attacks all rely mostly on adrenaline, and casters do far better with energy-based weaponry. (Bows, scythes, and daggers)
Also, as stated before, weapon of agression at least partially makes up for the scythe's slow attack speed.
bosstweed
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Error
Agree'd. Unfortunately, sword, spear, ax, and hammer attacks all rely mostly on adrenaline, and casters do far better with energy-based weaponry. (Bows, scythes, and daggers)
Also, as stated before, weapon of agression at least partially makes up for the scythe's slow attack speed. The thing I hate about scythes and daggers, and love about swords, axes, etc, is the two handedness. A scythe user using SS, sbs, and weapon of aggression, plus energy attacks, and some investment in wielder's boon, is going to be energy short in long battles.
Also, as stated before, weapon of agression at least partially makes up for the scythe's slow attack speed. The thing I hate about scythes and daggers, and love about swords, axes, etc, is the two handedness. A scythe user using SS, sbs, and weapon of aggression, plus energy attacks, and some investment in wielder's boon, is going to be energy short in long battles.
stretchs
sin's typically work best with Spirit's Strength because of their attack speed
flclisgreat
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Originally Posted by stretchs
sin's typically work best with Spirit's Strength because of their attack speed
same attack speed as a sword/axe
bosstweed
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Originally Posted by flclisgreat
same attack speed as a sword/axe
Double strikes.
Yichi
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Originally Posted by blue.rellik
Pfffffft! I can spend two skill slots on getting my deep wound. Beat that!
hey now, with cyclone axe, he would have to spend 2 slots as well wince he needs dismember...
Marverick
[skill]Spirit's Strength[/skill][wiki]Weapon of Aggression[/wiki][skill]Protector's Strike[/skill][skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Agonizing Chop[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Shield Bash[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
[skill]Spirit's Strength[/skill][wiki]Weapon of Aggression[/wiki][skill]Protector's Strike[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Savage Slash[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Shield Bash[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
[skill]Spirit's Strength[/skill][wiki]Weapon of Aggression[/wiki][skill]Golden Phoenix Strike[/skill][skill]Horns of the Ox[/skill][wiki]Falling Lotus Strike[/wiki][skill]Blades of Steel[/skill][skill]Dash[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
11+1+1 Spawning, 12 Weapon Mastery, 6+1 Channeling
Sword and Axe are more or less similar really. Daggers gives you a much more potent spike at the cost of less survivability.
Scythe doesn't really give you anything, and you're going to run dry of energy using its attack skills. At least Axes and Swords have a fast enough attack rate to allow a Zealous prefix to replenish energy at a decent rate.
Spears are too easily kited to be worth it for doing pure damage, and Bows just suck for damage.
[skill]Spirit's Strength[/skill][wiki]Weapon of Aggression[/wiki][skill]Protector's Strike[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Savage Slash[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Shield Bash[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
[skill]Spirit's Strength[/skill][wiki]Weapon of Aggression[/wiki][skill]Golden Phoenix Strike[/skill][skill]Horns of the Ox[/skill][wiki]Falling Lotus Strike[/wiki][skill]Blades of Steel[/skill][skill]Dash[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
11+1+1 Spawning, 12 Weapon Mastery, 6+1 Channeling
Sword and Axe are more or less similar really. Daggers gives you a much more potent spike at the cost of less survivability.
Scythe doesn't really give you anything, and you're going to run dry of energy using its attack skills. At least Axes and Swords have a fast enough attack rate to allow a Zealous prefix to replenish energy at a decent rate.
Spears are too easily kited to be worth it for doing pure damage, and Bows just suck for damage.