Nowadays, half of the HM scene, half the farming scene, half of everything, focuses on 55 monks. I have played GW since December 2005, and have continually thought of the 55 monk concept as cheap, for people not smart enough to come up with better builds.
But I'm starting to realize that almost everyone who has some nice armor/weapons has a 55 monk. Most farming builds involve the 55 monk. Guess who's always clearing the UW? Well, SS necros, but also, 55 monks!
I'm starting to realize this takeover is inevitable. Do you think it's worth it if I just make a monk for the sake of 55 farming?
Should I Make a Monk Just For Farming?
Eldin
asian i am
i say go for it what do ya have to lose?
Winterclaw
Not if you find it boring, don't want to waste the spot, can do E/A or A/E, etc. BTW, it costs a bit of plat to make a 55 monk so if you don't have the money don't bother right now.
Stormlord Alex
If you're serious about farming, then make a monk - 55hp, smiter, 600 spirit bonder... Key roles for solo and small-group farming.
Also, learn the basics of monking, and you'll be able to play as a bonder or HB healer or whatever lame templates scrub groups need for Tank n' Spank or Ursanway, for beating elite missions.
However, if serious hardcore farming isn't your thing, then most classes (asides from Ranger and Para, which have very limited options) have a fair number of solo builds for various areas - just pick up a spare armour set and the skills needed, and one of your chars you play normally can double as a small-time farmer - ele, necro and rit all have some very good HardMode options (terratanking, 55 SS/SV, VwK respectively).
Also, learn the basics of monking, and you'll be able to play as a bonder or HB healer or whatever lame templates scrub groups need for Tank n' Spank or Ursanway, for beating elite missions.
However, if serious hardcore farming isn't your thing, then most classes (asides from Ranger and Para, which have very limited options) have a fair number of solo builds for various areas - just pick up a spare armour set and the skills needed, and one of your chars you play normally can double as a small-time farmer - ele, necro and rit all have some very good HardMode options (terratanking, 55 SS/SV, VwK respectively).
Eldin
I rarely needed to farm to get what I needed - my Dervish's 15k Primeval was acquired naturally playing through NF, my Ranger got some Deldrimor armor by playing through NF also (he's a Tyrian char).
The only thing I farmed for was my first 15k set, which was for Ettins when they were profitable.
I generally do UW/FoW runs once in a while, only when I feel like it, for some quick cash.
But I'm starting to feel the need to do more hard core farming, I will give 55 monking a shot - I have had experience with general monking before, by the way. I had a Prophecies monk who was deleted and in my old guild I sometimes had to use my W/Mo's monk secondary and manage when we were limited on monks. >_<
The only thing I farmed for was my first 15k set, which was for Ettins when they were profitable.
I generally do UW/FoW runs once in a while, only when I feel like it, for some quick cash.
But I'm starting to feel the need to do more hard core farming, I will give 55 monking a shot - I have had experience with general monking before, by the way. I had a Prophecies monk who was deleted and in my old guild I sometimes had to use my W/Mo's monk secondary and manage when we were limited on monks. >_<
Div
Make one because you like to stare at the cute female monks all day. Not for farming.
I D E L E T E D I
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Make one because you like to stare at the cute female monks all day. Not for farming.
QFT
listen to him he knows what hes talking about
listen to him he knows what hes talking about
Eldin
If anything, the monks have to be one of the less-pleasant classes to look at, TBH.
Anyway, do you think the same could be said about SS necros? Should I make one just for farming? I had one up to the Crystal Desert and then gave him the axe when I ran out of ideas on what to do with his life.
Anyway, do you think the same could be said about SS necros? Should I make one just for farming? I had one up to the Crystal Desert and then gave him the axe when I ran out of ideas on what to do with his life.
fainty
i wouldn't make a char just for farming.
i made my monk once for the deep, just to get fast in a group and get easy to the last point...
in the end i didn't played much inside the deep, but enjoyed the monk class just for the heck off it... became my main char in short time and still is my main char after 20 months.
and i say also;
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
i made my monk once for the deep, just to get fast in a group and get easy to the last point...
in the end i didn't played much inside the deep, but enjoyed the monk class just for the heck off it... became my main char in short time and still is my main char after 20 months.
and i say also;
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Make one because you like to stare at the cute female monks all day. Not for farming.
QFT, no more, no less.
Kwan Xi
If farming floats your boat go ahead. Personally I scrapped my 55 Monk Armor over a year ago it was boring as hell, oh and yeah if you want to use Bots to auto farm go ahead..... just don't go complaining to Arena.net if all the sudden you get banned.
Dreamwar
Ha, this is EXACTLY! what i did. I made a monk for farming, but now i use it for normal purposes too 
Sir Pandra Pierva
i would say its not worth it anymore but thats cause it just dull for me. My monk was made for that purpose only and i deleted him in favor of a mes...this was befoer cof runs.
Yichi
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Make one because you like to stare at the cute female monks all day. Not for farming.
then why do you have a male monk... 
Ensign
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Originally Posted by Yichi
then why do you have a male monk...
Because he's in Dark Alley.
Because he's in Dark Alley.
JDRyder
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Originally Posted by Ensign
Because he's in Dark Alley.
what about tommy? D:
NamelessBeauty
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Originally Posted by Yichi
then why do you have a male monk...
Well I would guess that there are more than one kind of interaction. U know, looking at the male monk days/nights! So Divine prob is the....uhm KE Ke ke...!!! Needless to say!
Well I would guess that there are more than one kind of interaction. U know, looking at the male monk days/nights! So Divine prob is the....uhm KE Ke ke...!!! Needless to say!
Eldin
When I want to look at pixels, I either break out Livia or make a PvP character.
Albert Algorn
I would say yeah make a monk b/c they are great fun to play and every pug needs them but they are also good for farming if you need to. Personally I kind of like solo 55 monking from time to time I find it gratifying. It's nice to take some of the loot I get from it and go give away stom bows or something to new players! 
captainccc
Monking is really fun to me outside farming but its also my main farming character. I rarely 55, maybe HM imp runs but that's about it. I 600/smite all the time for money because its really fast and 600'ing is a loooooot less boring than 55. Also monks, imo, are the most fun to pimp out ( shortest monk w/ colossal blade ftw?). Dont spend your time making a character for soley farming. I actually made my monk back in the day to 55 for some warriors armor and by the time I had gotten all the money, I thought, my monk really deserves this money more (hehe). 2 years later monk is my main and I cant play any other class without trying to find a way to fill the role a monk plays as good as a monk.
Rathgar
I got into monking just six months ago for supporting guild mates and now it’s all I want to play. However, I now want to get some nice items for my monk and feel the need to farm. I have a few of questions.
1. Can a 600 smiter farm all the places a 55 monk can?
2. Is the 600 smiter cheaper to build?
3. Which version has a steeper learning curve (if any)?
1. Can a 600 smiter farm all the places a 55 monk can?
2. Is the 600 smiter cheaper to build?
3. Which version has a steeper learning curve (if any)?
Kattar
Well, you can 55 farm with a necro and mesmer if you want. So if you already have those chars, there's no need roll another monk and grind it to 20.
But I've recently found monking to be fun, albeit I'm monking with my mesmer. So I may roll one just for that.
But I've recently found monking to be fun, albeit I'm monking with my mesmer. So I may roll one just for that.
captainccc
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Originally Posted by Rathgar
I got into monking just six months ago for supporting guild mates and now it’s all I want to play. However, I now want to get some nice items for my monk and feel the need to farm. I have a few of questions.
1. Can a 600 smiter farm all the places a 55 monk can?
2. Is the 600 smiter cheaper to build?
3. Which version has a steeper learning curve (if any)? 1) Not ALL places, but most, although 55 can solo so more drops.
2) 600 smiter is a far cheaper build. You actually have to downgrade armor (level 15 armor from ascalon is what I use) to trigger spirit bond every time.
3) The 55 build is pretty much cookie cutter to the max so the learning curve is nothing. That being said, its also pretty easy to 600 as well.
Sooo, pick 600. Its cheaper, its pretty easy, and its fun! Or you could pick both and 55 some places, 600 some places like I do.
1. Can a 600 smiter farm all the places a 55 monk can?
2. Is the 600 smiter cheaper to build?
3. Which version has a steeper learning curve (if any)? 1) Not ALL places, but most, although 55 can solo so more drops.
2) 600 smiter is a far cheaper build. You actually have to downgrade armor (level 15 armor from ascalon is what I use) to trigger spirit bond every time.
3) The 55 build is pretty much cookie cutter to the max so the learning curve is nothing. That being said, its also pretty easy to 600 as well.
Sooo, pick 600. Its cheaper, its pretty easy, and its fun! Or you could pick both and 55 some places, 600 some places like I do.
fainty
55 and 600 armors are both doable with level 15 armor, look at the rune trader what would be cheaper.
also 600 can be made by almost normal armor, so not wasting money to get runes and armor twice. 55hp is a total armor set what you can use a bit for 600 tank. this is what 600 smite makes it some cheaper to build then 55hp armor.
if you start with 0 and want to make it, it realy doesn't matter what way you go, only rune prices can make one more expensive then the other.
also 600 can be made by almost normal armor, so not wasting money to get runes and armor twice. 55hp is a total armor set what you can use a bit for 600 tank. this is what 600 smite makes it some cheaper to build then 55hp armor.
if you start with 0 and want to make it, it realy doesn't matter what way you go, only rune prices can make one more expensive then the other.
Div
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Originally Posted by JDRyder
what about tommy? D:
Langola knows where it's at. Tommy just misclicked.
Rydia Merchan
I made my monk just for farming and ended up playing on her more than the characters I farmed the money for. You end up loving them as your own kids.
killress
Monks=PuG heaven. Make a 55 monk, but dont just 55 on it, that would be a waste of a monk!
The Meth
If you enjoy farming, go ahead and make a monk.
If you can live without teh ub3r lewt and would have more fun just playing the game, don't bother.
If you can live without teh ub3r lewt and would have more fun just playing the game, don't bother.
ikillallthings
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Originally Posted by Rathgar
I got into monking just six months ago for supporting guild mates and now it’s all I want to play. However, I now want to get some nice items for my monk and feel the need to farm. I have a few of questions.
1. Can a 600 smiter farm all the places a 55 monk can?
2. Is the 600 smiter cheaper to build?
3. Which version has a steeper learning curve (if any)?
i dunno about the farming places but i made a 600 in like 1 hour for like 3k it was real cheap just buy noob armor with 15 armor
1. Can a 600 smiter farm all the places a 55 monk can?
2. Is the 600 smiter cheaper to build?
3. Which version has a steeper learning curve (if any)?
i dunno about the farming places but i made a 600 in like 1 hour for like 3k it was real cheap just buy noob armor with 15 armor
Age
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Originally Posted by killress
Monks=PuG heaven. Make a 55 monk, but dont just 55 on it, that would be a waste of a monk!
I would agree and it what I advocate about but some just make monk for farming as if you can use a Necro or Elementalist.You can't stop this and if the OP wants that is his prerogative.
I would agree and it what I advocate about but some just make monk for farming as if you can use a Necro or Elementalist.You can't stop this and if the OP wants that is his prerogative.
Being
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Clicky
About the making a 55, if you can be bothered to make one why not. Though almost every profession can solo farm well imo.
Luminarus
No... making a monk just for farming is stupid because monks rule, make it, play it, get over farming, keep it DD
DD
Abonai Laguna
monk is pretty advisable for farming yes,
MasterSasori
Make a monk if you want a monk, not because of farming exclusively. Most other classes have some type of farming builds.
Lambros
I made my monk very recently, used a build to powerlvl HIMSELF from lvl 8-20, then farmed in the CoF HM. I am now richer than I think I ever was. I highly recommend making a monk. gl
TPike
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Originally Posted by Lambros
I made my monk very recently, used a build to powerlvl HIMSELF from lvl 8-20, then farmed in the CoF HM. I am now richer than I think I ever was. I highly recommend making a monk. gl
Was it a 55HP or 600/Smiter ?
Power level HIMSELF ? I can get a NF char to level 10 in prob 2-3 days with heros then go to EotN to get lvl 20 in another day. How long did it take you from creating the Monk to actually "farming" with him?
I know nothing about monking but want the "leet lewt" and I hate being poor.
Power level HIMSELF ? I can get a NF char to level 10 in prob 2-3 days with heros then go to EotN to get lvl 20 in another day. How long did it take you from creating the Monk to actually "farming" with him?
I know nothing about monking but want the "leet lewt" and I hate being poor.
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Being
Woah woah woah! Rangers are VERY limited you say?
Clicky
About the making a 55, if you can be bothered to make one why not. Though almost every profession can solo farm well imo. That didn't really prove anything. Rangers main form of farming was Splinter/barraging (nerfed) and trapping (nerfed), most of their others are just farming that any profession can use
Clicky
About the making a 55, if you can be bothered to make one why not. Though almost every profession can solo farm well imo. That didn't really prove anything. Rangers main form of farming was Splinter/barraging (nerfed) and trapping (nerfed), most of their others are just farming that any profession can use
weretoad
and 55 aren't for people that can't think of better farming builds. there are many versions and skilled things you must overcome, it just that most of that is open knowledge now a days. but monks are used many solo and farming builds so you should make one.
i wonder which is better a +10 health regen 55
or a shield of absorption 55
i wonder which is better a +10 health regen 55
or a shield of absorption 55
ender6
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Originally Posted by weretoad
and 55 aren't for people that can't think of better farming builds. there are many versions and skilled things you must overcome, it just that most of that is open knowledge now a days. but monks are used many solo and farming builds so you should make one.
i wonder which is better a +10 health regen 55
or a shield of absorption 55 The problems with SoA (though rather obvious) are:
-recharge time.
-doesn't counter degen dmg type.
I know it has been used as a stop gap spell in the past for 600 farmers. As far as "skilled things" you have to overcome goew when farming I couldn't disagree more. The obstacles once overcome become static. I will however say that whoever invented the first 55 build was quite imaginative.
i wonder which is better a +10 health regen 55
or a shield of absorption 55 The problems with SoA (though rather obvious) are:
-recharge time.
-doesn't counter degen dmg type.
I know it has been used as a stop gap spell in the past for 600 farmers. As far as "skilled things" you have to overcome goew when farming I couldn't disagree more. The obstacles once overcome become static. I will however say that whoever invented the first 55 build was quite imaginative.
weretoad
well i use SoA and i just have blessed aura and %14 enchanting sword, switch gives me .88 seconds with out it
ender6
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Originally Posted by weretoad
well i use SoA and i just have blessed aura and %14 enchanting sword, switch gives me .88 seconds with out it
Didn't say it couldn't be done. Just gave a break down on the drawbacks, since you "wondered which is better", or was that rhetorical?