Glint's Challange

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I just happen to wonder that if destroyers are servants of the Ancient Dragons, why do they attack Glint's baby, who is dragon aswell? Is she related at all to ancient dragons or is she just some sort of outcast, or maybe betrayer of some sort?

Now, discuss.

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erm... as you can see in this video, according to eotn's lore, glint isnt a dragon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO

*sry, couldnt resist!*

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Glint doesn't want to utterly wreck everything.

The destroyers do.

It makes sense, really. She obviously isn't on the ancient dragons' side.

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Glint is not really on the same scale as the Ancient Dragons. If they are as cruel as the articles about them say i doubt they would care about her or her kin. Also the Destroyers that fight in Glints Challenge aint really under direct control from Primordus himself. They are under control of the Great Destroyer who appears to have set their goal to destroy anything and everything.

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[QUOTE=NND]erm... as you can see in this video, according to the eotn's lore, glint isnt a dragon[QUOTE]

Glint is a Dragon of ancient age - nearly 3000 years old. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Glint

Well this says she is a dragon. But she and Kuunavang are lesser versions of the Ancient Dragons. I can't remember much but I think I can remember from somewhere that they have absolutely no relationship to the Ancients.

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I think the difference is that Glint presumably works for the gods, while it seems like the ancient dragons want to become the gods.

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They probably already are. Just wait to find out in GW 2.

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Destroyers are not servants of the Ancient Dragons, if anything they're servants of The Great Destroyer, a general of Primordus.

As far as I know, Primordus and other Ancient Dragons as well as the Gods enter the world at around the same time, and only afterwards do the Gods create Glint as caretaker of Tyria.
So yeah, as Free Runner says, Glint is never the same as the Ancient Dragons, nor is she ever on the same side as the Ancient Dragons.
Only similarity is that they're both dragons, but that's like saying a child is same as a hardened adult criminal.

My speculation is that the Gods banished the Ancient Dragons to their sleep, therefore their eternal hatred and want to destroy whatever the Gods created.

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Mayby they are just jealous of the Gods

Btw how big is Glint? Isn't she inside a single grain of sand or something?

Is the Great Destroyer like second in command in the Legion of the Ancient Dragons? The rank after Primordus.

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Glint's decent-sized, definitely gigantic compared to a human. Go see her for yourself at the end of Dragon's Lair mission :P
About the same size as Kuunavang or Mallyx? I think smaller than Molotov Rocktail.

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Primordus basically said "I'm taking a nap, wake me up later".

The Great Destroyer then told the Destroyers "level everything to make room for his Primordiusness". So they obeyed.

If I recall the point of the Destroyers is no specific targets against anyone, just to clear and weaken Tyria in preparation for Primordus.

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According to the lore, the ancient dragons are older then the gods and far more [email protected] They can simply do as they please and are currently in a deep sleep for their own reasons. Glint and Kuunavang are very young compared to them and though are dragons, they do not qualify as ancient dragons.

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Is the Great Destroyer like second in command in the Legion of the Ancient Dragons? The rank after Primordus.
The Great Destroyer is one of Primordus' generals/underlings. He fails and Primordus will later call on another general to do it's bidding.

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Older than the Gods? I think the lore said so ancient they "rival the Gods themselves".

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Older than the Gods? I think the lore said so ancient they "rival the Gods themselves".

Thus begs the question, how old are the Gods actually?


And yeah Glint is pretty big (didnt stop me and my PUG from owning her though ).


Tip: Just need to Dmg her until she tries to use Crystal Hibernation, wich you interrupt. Then just go for the kill.

Macks Mistress

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Rival doesn't necessarily mean they are on equal terms in age. But possibly in power?

I am pretty sure that the Dragons are older than the Gods....yet I cannot remember where I read it.

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Also, just cos they are the same species, doesn't mean they like each other. (see Humans)

And even if all the ancient dragons were baddies, they might also hate each other.

My question is, who did Glint mate with to get them eggs and baby dragons? Or did she do some reptilian asexual reproduction thing? Are all dragons female?

It's not a total joke question, if the dragons don't need to mate with each other to reproduce, then they have full justification to be direct competitors.

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Glint is a dragon prophet that is over 3000 years old. She was the first creature placed on the continent of Tyria by the Gods to oversee the new world. As time went on, she was given servants - The Forgotten, to aid her in this task.

- taken from the Wiki, and as far as I know, there is no doubt about that.

She is affiliated with the 5 gods, and the Ancient Dragons are older, maybe stronger and for sure enemies of the 5 gods. They want Tyria for themselves, and do not want to have gods or humans or whatever else creatures besides them.

Their Destroyer armies are aptly named - they just destroy everything else. And Glint is a direct enemy, and being a dragon, but not an ancient dragon, she could be seen as a betrayer and ally of the enemy, thus deserving punishment even more.

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How did the destroyers find that grain of sand though... That's what I'm wondering. Can they just like sense powerful magic and lock onto it?

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Probably... or maybe they already knew her location from way back when she went to live in there. I wonder, did she always live in that place? Or did she used to live in the open world until humans became predominant, and much like the Forgotten, she went to hide?

In any case, we can assume that the Destroyers ''sniffing out'' her magic is the best hypothesis yet.

I can remember some ghostly hero telling me that it would take a million lifetimes to search the Desert for that tiny grain her Lair is in, but still not find it.

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Fangclaw, the Ghostly Hero did say that you could search a million lifetimes and never find her. I remember that line too, awesome line.

I guess The Destroyers can lock onto magic somehow. Admittedly Glint (and presumably her baby) radiate huge amounts of magical energy. Us humans can't sense it, but I'm sure someone can.

Also, Glint isn't that tough.

[skill]Greater Conflagration[/skill]

Makes her Jagged Crystal Skin (the thing that does damage back to you and rapes the party) useless.

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Fangclaw, the Ghostly Hero did say that you could search a million lifetimes and never find her. I remember that line too, awesome line.
I think it was the Ghostly Hero in The Amnoon Oasis that said it... and its actually Turai Ossa if im correct.


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Also, Glint isn't that tough.

[skill]Greater Conflagration[/skill]

Makes her Jagged Crystal Skin (the thing that does damage back to you and rapes the party) useless.
Didnt need to think too much about it... All I had to do myself in The Dragons Lair was telling my party to evade her attacks, use my rez signet, and wait until she tried to use [skill]Crystal Hibernation[/skill], wich I'd interrupt with [skill]Distracting Shot[/skill]


Theres written somewhere (in wiki maybe), that the Ancient Dragons predate back to prehistoric times (before the gods), where food wasnt a problem. Remember the first date of the Tyrian calendar? It said: Last sign of Gigantus Lupicus (best guess), walking on the soil of Tyria. If you've seen the Reign of Fire movie, you might find a similarity.

What if The Ancient Dragons ate all the Great Giants then went to sleep from lack of food source? Theres nothing that proves that the gods had something to do with this. As for Glint, they say she came onto Tyria 3000 years ago and that the gods made her come because they needed some sort of ''shepherd''.

Again, theres nothing to say that the world wasnt already there before the gods came and shaped it. If it hapenned like this, were looking at a similar design in GW Lore then in WoW.

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Other theory is that the True Giants were other generals of The Dragons, and they were defeated around the time they vanished, as well as The Dragons themselves.

Would be a fair guess as it is way before humans or even The Forgotten arrived on Tyria.

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On the Destroyers getting in Glints challange: If the Brotherhood were keeping the Baby Dragon safe you could assume they needed to get in and out of that Lair. With the amount of Asura gates floating around it wouldnt be too absurd to think the Dwarves were using one which happened to get overrun with Destroyers hence their entrance into one of the sections of Dragons Lair.

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Originally Posted by Free Runner
On the Destroyers getting in Glints challange: If the Brotherhood were keeping the Baby Dragon safe you could assume they needed to get in and out of that Lair. With the amount of Asura gates floating around it wouldnt be too absurd to think the Dwarves were using one which happened to get overrun with Destroyers hence their entrance into one of the sections of Dragons Lair.
The Glint's Challenge NPCs in the Central Transfer Chamber are standing around one of those unusable background-Asura gates. I'm guessing that's it.

Considering The Destroyers were already in the Central Transfer Chamber, and it's proven they can use the gates as seen in A Gate Too Far, I guess that's how.

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Originally Posted by Fangclaw
Theres written somewhere (in wiki maybe), that the Ancient Dragons predate back to prehistoric times (before the gods), where food wasnt a problem. Remember the first date of the Tyrian calendar? It said: Last sign of Gigantus Lupicus (best guess), walking on the soil of Tyria. If you've seen the Reign of Fire movie, you might find a similarity.

What if The Ancient Dragons ate all the Great Giants then went to sleep from lack of food source? Theres nothing that proves that the gods had something to do with this. As for Glint, they say she came onto Tyria 3000 years ago and that the gods made her come because they needed some sort of ''shepherd''.

Again, theres nothing to say that the world wasnt already there before the gods came and shaped it. If it hapenned like this, were looking at a similar design in GW Lore then in WoW.
Hrrmn. I wonder if it will turn out that Glint's similarity to the Ancient Dragons isn't actually a coincidence, and that she was hatched from an Ancient Dragon egg that the gods found rather than being created?

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I can remember some ghostly hero telling me that it would take a million lifetimes to search the Desert for that tiny grain her Lair is in, but still not find it.
Thank you for that backup.

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My question is, who did Glint mate with to get them eggs and baby dragons? Or did she do some reptilian asexual reproduction thing? Are all dragons female?

It's not a total joke question, if the dragons don't need to mate with each other to reproduce, then they have full justification to be direct competitors.
This isn't a forum about how big dragons make mini dragons, but amazing question though! Maybay she had sex with a daddy dragon and then the daddy dragon died leaving Glint pregnant. Glint and the father were the last two dragons I'm guessing. Everyone loves Glint! Anyone who likes Kuunevang more needs to see a doctor.

Sorry about the double posting. I just don't know how to add two seperate quotes into the one post.

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Kuunavang needs to die. She sounds like Asian Glint on helium.

Plus Glint has yet to be corrupted whilst Kuunavang got buried under a mountain of jade and went insane. PWND!

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I love killing Kunnevang! I repeat that mission over and over again just to see her squirm under the immense pain! No one realy likes her!

Who do you think would win in a fight...Glint or the retard dragon (Kuunevang)?

Eldin

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Glint. She'd use her awesomeness to blow Kuunavang up, because Kuunavang doesn't have protection vs awesomeness.

Also, where'd you get the av Bohya?

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You should see my other, profile pic aswell. I got it off of Google Images.

Seams to be that Cynn and Livia are lesbians.

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why should you kno? Oo

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no, Cynn seems to fancy Mhenlo. >.>

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Meh, it seams she has a bit of lesbian in her too.

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why should you kno? Oo

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Mayb she is so ever angry coz she cant chose between other girls and Mhenlo and then she sees Livia... but I cant say she became any softer in gwen... >.>

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Maybay Mhenlo is a girl, so she has always been a lesbo.