What is a bad player?

longasc is terrible, rhanoct ur gud

A good player is one who adapts over time, learns what is good and bad and tries to play as a team, a bad player is one who does not adapt and continually uses the same shitty skills despite repeated attempts to help him out, for example someone who likes to Frenzy away whilst Spiteful Spirit, or spirit shackles are on him

The question is somewhat ambiguous though..

Bad Players:

Do not adapt

are not nice

feel a game allows them to show their deep perverted, ugly side

like porridge *yuck*

bad players are like terrorists:

they could be anywhere, even in your party,
and they ruin everything for the rest of us.


anyone could be a bad player

A bad player is one who thinks if it ain't on wiki then it's not any good. A bad player uses cookie cutter builds and think they are in godmode. lol A bad player is one who puts down an abstract build they have never seen just because it's not on wiki or is unothorodoxed without even trying it first. A bad player are the majority who post like they have some kind of inherent rank and knowledge about the game even though they've only played it a couple of months. A bad player is usually an igmo.

Ursan is an effecient build.

Wait, what am I saying build. I mean skill.

Ursan is not a bad skill. It is a cheap skill. Requires not much effort/none.

People who refuse help from an assassin with 15k Kurzick armor for Vizunah Square mission because "assassins suck".

People who don't know what their doing and still don't listen to you when you try to tell them :S.

Anyone who thinks he is good just because he has 15K armor.

Pretty much anyone who sucks at the game, in PvE or PvP, and when you try to help them out they give you a long list of things they've accomplished. Like "Maybe Rebirth isn't the best thing to put on an ele hero..." "SCREW U I GOT PROT OF CANTHA USING THAT BILD AND ALSO I BEAT ABADDON AND DID KORMIR /rank /rank /rank" Especially when they end it with a passive-aggressive "but w/e".

As if it makes them better players.

[skill]frenzy[/skill] + [skill]mending[/skill]

I think you are all missing Terraban's point. He's wearing KURZICK armor in VIZNUAH SQUARE. He's going back to help a guild mate, etc beat a mission he's already beaten, but is being rejected because some bad player thinks
a) assassins suck
b) doesn't even realize that this guy has clearly already beaten this mission before, and therefore knows it fairly well.

Jetdoc you got it right!

Bad player -> someone who ran Balanced in HA and got beaten by Spiritway dozens of times before the nerf, and called it a bad build, despite being beaten by it so many times.

Oh, wait, my bad. That was the definition of an idiot.

Sorry but having 15k armor doesn't make you good. Who says he didn't get help from someone else to beat the mission? I'm not saying he did but it is a possibility, after all he is going there to help someone else. Would the person he is helping qualify as good at that mission if he had to get help to beat it?

I guess you could assume he ebayed his amber and hired runners, but I think the better assumption is that the guy knows what he's doing.

Plenty of sins blow, but there are quite a few who understand the class and make it work.

I feel everytime I play im only getting better.

(or at least not worse)

Please remove Frenzy from that list.

IMO there is more than one type of bad player. People with a bad attitude, while they may be quite skilled at playing the game they just come across as arseholes. People who refuse to take advice and insist that their skills/tactics are perfect, even when they're obviously far from it. People who refuse to play their role in a team and constantly make things more difficult for everyone else. People who are just out there to annoy others. People who refuse to take a certain class of character into any group because they stereotype.

A good player however is pretty much the opposite of the above. They will learn from others, take advice when it's good, be polite, be willing to run various team setups and give something a try, learn to play their role in a team/listen to instructions. Players like these are usually the ones who end up helping others further down the line.

In my experience anyway.