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S_Scarlet

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

23 Feb 2008 at 00:55 - 1

Tonight - now, I'll admit I stuck my foot in my mouth trying to be helpful. A low lvl player was trying to sell an account for a non-GW game. I quietly Pm'd them and explained that it was against the TOS and it could cost them their account.... to which he kindly replied telling me where I could go and what I could suck.

Now I've seen where many people don't read the TOS so they don't know what is or isn't against the rules. Personally next time I'll keep my mouth shut and hope they get banned

With all the TOS violations I see on a day to day basis...makes me wonder if ANET takes their own TOS seriously.

I'm normally a much more cheery person...but this jerk has me irked

Jakz0r

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

My Mothers Basement :3

Guild of CJ's.

D/Mo

23 Feb 2008 at 00:58 - 2

Happened to me a few times, I know how you feel bud.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

23 Feb 2008 at 01:00 - 3

Welcome to the internet. And welcome to GW, the virtual babysitter.

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

23 Feb 2008 at 01:03 - 4

Meh, report and move on. No point getting all helpful, because 9 times out of 10, you're going to hear all kinds of things about your mother.

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

23 Feb 2008 at 01:19 - 5

This is why unless there is something specific that I'm looking for, trade chat and local chat are turned off in all outposts.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

23 Feb 2008 at 01:23 - 6

this is why some people never even have trade and all chat on....and why lots of us dont help new people in game.
Get burned once and its with you for life---just like a scar.

[Morkai]

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Heroes of Elonia [HE]

W/Rt

23 Feb 2008 at 01:31 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yichi

This is why unless there is something specific that I'm looking for, trade chat and local chat are turned off in all outposts.

Ditto.

12Chars

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

23 Feb 2008 at 01:31 - 8

Most of the time, these people know it's against the rules. Just let them stew in their own ignorance and suffer the consequences for their actions.

I know you want to help, but these people aren't the type to help.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

23 Feb 2008 at 01:42 - 9

Low level means nothing. It's almost certainly a trial account.

Quote:

And welcome to GW, the virtual babysitter

This type of account sellers are usually not small children.

Quote:

Now I've seen where many people don't read the TOS so they don't know what is or isn't against the rules.

They've read the rules and know them. But more importantly, they know that nothing will ever happen to them, since account trading has never been actively prosecuted, and even if, it never instilled any fear. And with abundance of trial accounts, even that is not a problem.

Also, account trade scamming is very good money. These people aren't doing it for fun or out of desperation. It's good business.

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

23 Feb 2008 at 01:44 - 10

Giving away and selling accounts is nothing new, does it really bother you that much?

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

23 Feb 2008 at 01:50 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by credit

Giving away and selling accounts is nothing new, does it really bother you that much?

The issue isn't that the selling of the account bothered the OP, it's how the friendly word of advice was thrown back at them w/ such ferocity. Frankly, unless someone is asking for help, I won't volunteer any; it usually comes right back and bites me on the ass...

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

E/

23 Feb 2008 at 02:06 - 12

Eh, take a screen shot, and send it in a report to Arena Net. Detail the exact time, and date, district, and include the screenshot unadultured. Of course, they will always reply they cant disclose if they even took action against the player, but I secrectly like to think they banned his IP so that he can never play on Anet servers again, and it makes me happy. One less wanker to worry about, eh?

BladeDVD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Hawaii

Clan Of Elders

N/

23 Feb 2008 at 06:35 - 13

It was a NON-Guild Wars game. Probably Runescape.

OP's intentions were good though, no reason to be so insulting.

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

23 Feb 2008 at 07:00 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yichi

This is why unless there is something specific that I'm looking for, trade chat and local chat are turned off in all outposts.

This is why unless we're discussing something about GvG, guild chat is turned off because there's this Yichi guy in our guild

<3

Siirius Black

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Dragon's Lair

La Legion Del Dragon

E/

23 Feb 2008 at 07:15 - 15

Well, I saw this guy in Kanadan anouncing that he wanted to buy prophecies for 100k I told him (and a lot of people) that he was in violation of TOS. He did not answered and kept spamming his message.

I target him to report him as a bot when I was surprised that he added me to his team. I got out of his group and he started to scream that I was a scammer.

I just told him, "dude, I target u to report you for botting, not to sell you an account, LOL"

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

23 Feb 2008 at 07:56 - 16

Since we are curtailing the availability of demos that allow members of gold selling networks to hawk their goods, there could be a slight increase in gold sellers trying various means to buy accounts for in-game gold. They are part of a network, after all. They have farmers and bots gathering in-game gold, and they try to use that gold to try to buy real game accounts. They hope to get a legitimate account from someone who foolishly sells it to them, so that they use then can use that account to either bot, or spam advertise, or both.

My advice: Please hit /report and use "spamming" as the reason. We'll take care of it from our end. And by no means do you want to carry out any transactions with these people, for obvious reasons.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

23 Feb 2008 at 08:01 - 17

I report them immediately...why even mess with someone? Let Anet decide their fate don't try to be a savior. /report /report /report I love it.

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

23 Feb 2008 at 10:58 - 18

Most people selling accounts, in game gold etc know it's against the rules. That's probably why you got a rude answer. It sucks, but I'd recommend it just be ignored, and future people you attempt to help are more gracious.

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

23 Feb 2008 at 11:08 - 19

Just go and report him. He deserves it.

Aera

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]

E/

23 Feb 2008 at 12:23 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

My advice: Please hit /report and use "spamming" as the reason. We'll take care of it from our end. And by no means do you want to carry out any transactions with these people, for obvious reasons.

So for what would you report a spambot? I usually do both for spamming and for botting, is that ok?

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

23 Feb 2008 at 12:50 - 21

Don't give him the satisfaction of letting him have a go at you. Just report and move on, some people are beyond help.

S_Scarlet

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

23 Feb 2008 at 14:59 - 22

I want to thank everyone for taking the time to reply. I am sorry to see that so many others have run into situations much like the one I described. I'll certainly skip the desire to be "helpful" in cases like this from now on.

t00115577

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/

23 Feb 2008 at 15:28 - 23

Ya m8, its not worth the blood pressure imo

Lady S Shiva

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

CA

LOD???

W/Mo

23 Feb 2008 at 17:58 - 24

report, put the name on guild chat, alliance chat, have all ur alliance member and friends report his rat's axx, and tell him where he can go and what he should be sucking

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

23 Feb 2008 at 18:22 - 25

Yeah... most of the people in this game are idiots - you try to help and they tell you off. Or aren't thankful at all when they requested the help. Pisses me off though, but eh, mob mentality is hard to change.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady S Shiva

report, put the name on guild chat, alliance chat, have all ur alliance member and friends report his rat's axx, and tell him where he can go and what he should be sucking

That's generally what we end up doing. A few friends of mine were ABing and some guy started to insult them; the dude took it in PM with one of the team after the AB and started spamming my friend... who released the name in AC.

We got him banned.

Mess with one, mess with the rest...

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

23 Feb 2008 at 18:26 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by genofreek

Meh, report and move on. No point getting all helpful, because 9 times out of 10, you're going to hear all kinds of things about your mother.

Sad but true...

/report (insert idiot's name here)

And just move on.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

23 Feb 2008 at 22:55 - 27

Just report 'em, they won't return anything to you but a flame.
Alot of people are divv's these days.

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

24 Feb 2008 at 01:58 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kusandaa

Yeah... most of the people in this game are idiots - you try to help and they tell you off. Or aren't thankful at all when they requested the help. Pisses me off though, but eh, mob mentality is hard to change.

That's generally what we end up doing. A few friends of mine were ABing and some guy started to insult them; the dude took it in PM with one of the team after the AB and started spamming my friend... who released the name in AC.

We got him banned.

Mess with one, mess with the rest...

It was so funny though! He even whispered me after his ban to start insulting me again. I just took the superior attitude with him, considered reporting him again but I figured that he wasn't being as abusive or spammy. Just gave him the old long-words-that-scare-small-minds talk and ignore listed him.

But seriously, this is something I've noticed about GW. You can't say that nobody new is willing to listen or accept help. Because yes, often they will tell you what to sit on and how many degrees to rotate through for offering expertise or help, but at least 50-60% of new players WILL listen.

Example? I did a 5 man? Oro farm a while ago..2 of my friends were going so I monked for them. The Ele was a really great guy (said he'd been playing for about a month and a week), but had a pretty bad build. So we offered to help him. We spent about 2 hours with him, talking and explaining what's good and bad, and what's expected of an ele. We gave him a few plat and he re-runed his armour. He was very grateful, and I have since played with him (although I didn't realise at first who he was) in a FoW clear, and he did brilliantly well.

And if you get just one person like that, then it sort of makes up for the 2-3 idiots with vomit for brains that have irked you. I'd say don't give up on being helpful, don't go sit on your cloud and think how great you are and how much everyone else sucks. Keep trying to help because it does and will pay off, even if not every time. Only quitters quit...

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

24 Feb 2008 at 04:20 - 29

Yeah, i try to help people when i can, but it can be a pain in the butt sometimes.

I ran into this newbie in Cavalon the other day.
Newb: "Hey, what are luxon totems?? What do i do with them??"
Me: "Give them to the quartermasters for stuff"
Newb: "Really. what's a quartermaster?"
Me: "They're like the monastery credits and imperial coms."
Newb: "Oh i have a bunch of those. What are they?"
Me: "Turn them into quartermasters in monastery and kaineng"
Newb: "monastery? where's the monastery?"
Me: "wiki it. gotta go"
Newb: "Wiki?? wat that mean?"

At this point I was sorry i ever stopped to answer a simple question.

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

24 Feb 2008 at 04:22 - 30

I just don't get it. Why would you think someone would buy a Runescape account on Guild Wars?

GW beats RS by a long shot... So why bothering wasting your time?
people are stupid sometimes. But most of the time the RS account sellers are age 10-12... exactly why he told you "where to go and what to suck".

Ryu_ookami

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

Frogs From Hell

W/N

24 Feb 2008 at 04:35 - 31

which is why I normally only help new guild members because that way I'm helping somebody and less chance of grief over it.

just 1 question I've never played runescape (and never intend to) but is it as bad as everyone says ?

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

24 Feb 2008 at 04:41 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryu_ookami

which is why I normally only help new guild members because that way I'm helping somebody and less chance of grief over it.

just 1 question I've never played runescape (and never intend to) but is it as bad as everyone says ?

if you like attempted 3D graphics, although they look 2D.
if you like complainy children that are and under the age of 13.
if you like a completely screwed up trade system (as friends have told me).
if you like even worse elitism than in GW...

Runescape is a great game for you

Ju-On

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

House Of Zen

R/

24 Feb 2008 at 05:37 - 33

Don't worry I got suspended for 71 hours for swearing...it works for somethings. Can anyone point me towards the TOS, so I don't repeat any offenses again. THX

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

24 Feb 2008 at 05:39 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ju-On

Don't worry I got suspended for 71 hours for swearing...it works for somethings. Can anyone point me towards the TOS, so I don't repeat any offenses again. THX

once again. stop spamming your suspension to everyone. they can read you "Swearing in GW" thread.

BladeDVD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Hawaii

Clan Of Elders

N/

24 Feb 2008 at 08:49 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexion

I just don't get it. Why would you think someone would buy a Runescape account on Guild Wars?

Beats me, but if you spend enough time in the busier towns, you will see people trying to sell runescape accounts. I haven't seen it as often lately though. I don't even know what exactly runescape is, but I have seen the spam from time to time.

Nothing against GW TOS against doing it as far as I know though.

Mimo08

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

D/Mo

24 Feb 2008 at 10:07 - 36

lol awww

Unfortunately the internet is a pretty nasty place, and a lot of loud mouth teenager's like to hide behind their anonymity and vent their frustrations onto
innocent others.

The case for this, is that in real life, they are weakling little dorks, who get bullied frequently.

So next time someone swears are you for no apparent good reason, remember

a piddly little nerd is having his two mins of being a tossbag.

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

24 Feb 2008 at 10:28 - 37

1) Bot
2) Scammer

Only an idiot tries to buy/sell an account in game. If they are trying to sell, they can either scam, or be scammed EASY. If they are buying, same thing.

/report, and move on.

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

24 Feb 2008 at 11:40 - 38

Yup, report and move on... I usually test if its a trial account before reporting though.

Trial accounts cant use the trade system. Walk up to the spammer and open a trade window.

If it dosnt work you will get a message telling you that it is a trial account and can not trade. No point in reporting them, because in less than 10 hours the spammer will be on a new Trial account.

If the trade window opens (or you get the message this player is already trading) you can cancel trade... feel free to report a banable spammer

.

baz777

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

South East England

Leader: Lady Hairy Armpits S[mell]

E/

25 Feb 2008 at 08:09 - 39

I blame the parents!

Don’t feel bad about it, give him a ‘virtual’ slap and move on.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

25 Feb 2008 at 08:56 - 40

Most people on the internet are bastards. Because they can think. Let me the only one to think and everyone would be succeeding and we'd be in outerspace.

This guy probably didn't care if it was against the ToS as a lot of people could care less about it.