M/R (beast master)

draconicum

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

23 Feb 2008 at 04:08 - 1

Hi mates,
I wish to build a Monk based char acting moustly as a beast master.
I know it will not be a very good ideia, but i wish to do it for fun and i pretend to spend many hours playing with it.
He is already in lvl 20 + max attrib points, and have already a heartly tiger pet, but my doubts go for what skills/atributs may i chose for him?
I think i will go also for the lengendary survivor tittle with him, what will be fun and time consuming.
My first toughts was to use the pet as a tanker plus monk smite enchantments, but i am not so sure now.
If you guys have any good ideas for this kind of build, please share with me.

Thx

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

23 Feb 2008 at 04:31 - 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by draconicum

a heartly tiger pet Get Dire.

Max beastmastery, max Smiting. Run smiting physical damage buffers off your pet - Stength of Honour, Judges Insight, Balth's Aura etc., keep it clean and deal AoE with Smite Hex/Condition, and kill shit with Pet attacks.

draconicum

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

23 Feb 2008 at 05:05 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Get Dire. Thx for the advice mate, i will try it asap.
For a tanker pet why you prefer the dire version? It's not good to use a heartly one with all that damage from the smiting atribute skills?The dire will do a so huge diference in damage?
Thx mate

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

23 Feb 2008 at 05:21 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by draconicum

Thx for the advice mate, i will try it asap.
For a tanker pet why you prefer the dire version? It's not good to use a heartly one with all that damage from the smiting atribute skills?The dire will do a so huge diference in damage?
Thx mate

Dire does 30% more damage than Hearty, and a lower health means that there's more chance of enemies aggroing on to it, for what it's worth.

off-topic...
The only time now I'd advocate Hearty is in a B/P group, where pets form a wall rather hope to absorb aggro (and this is only since the update to pet corpses, before it was still dire ftw because you'd merely raise a minion from the dead pet... faster minion armies is gud)

draconicum

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

23 Feb 2008 at 13:17 - 5

Ok Alex, i get it, thank you very much for your input into this subject mate

Draginvry

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Underground PvP Society (PVPS)

N/Mo

23 Feb 2008 at 13:36 - 6

Not to ruin the parade, but smiting beastmasters kind of suck. They usually rely on enemies attacking your pet, in which case if that doesn't happen they are useless. Another variant is to buff the pet with skills, in which case you'd still be doing more damage with a R/P Packhunter.

You could just go normal smiting and use the pet as damage soak, only using 2 beast mastery skills. If you know how to micro pets, this can be very usefull in certain areas. But the pet won't really be adding to your damage.

Focus on smiting more than anything. The only way you're going to get your pet to do any real damage is [skill]enraged lunge[/skill], but you need to go full beastmaster to really get the punch out of that one, meaning you might as well ditch the smiting entirely.

draconicum

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

23 Feb 2008 at 16:22 - 7

Thx Draginvry for your opinion mate, i will take that in consideration.
Yes smiting beast masters normaly sucks, but i like to go in long runs with difficult and weird builds for fun and to get also some tittles with them.
Im trying to find also a solo smiting beastmaster to solo some possible areas of the game, but untill now it looks realy hard to get one. Indeed a chalenging build to make it rule.

Celestial_Kitsune

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

23 Feb 2008 at 18:58 - 8

If you want to acquire a pet asap, consider capping a spider in UW or a dire L15 orange tiger in Pongmei Valley.

Also there is a gathering of beastmasters every week called "Zoo Crew Unite!". I am sure your monky with a pet will be welcomed there. Have fun

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

23 Feb 2008 at 19:09 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draginvry

Not to ruin the parade, but smiting beastmasters kind of suck.

That's an understated way to put it...

Quote: The only way you're going to get your pet to do any real damage is [skill]enraged lunge[/skill] quoted for truth. Also add [skill]brutal strike[/skill] for a solid 1-2 punch, albeit to only 1 target at a time.

Quote:

, but you need to go full beastmaster to really get the punch out of that one, meaning you might as well ditch the smiting entirely. And you might as well take a ranger primary for headgear, runes, and expertise.

As for hearty vs elder vs dire: It doesn't matter much damage-wise, since, if you are doing any real damage in the first place, it's going to be coming from skills and not base damage. In PvE, you can get slightly better aggro-grabbing ability with an elder or dire, at the cost of decreased survivability. In PvP (and by that I mean RA/TA/AB, since a beastmaster isn't a good idea beyond that), dire is bad idea because pet DP can turn it into a 1-hit kill, pretty much disabling you for the rest of the match.

Cherng Butter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Maryland

The Mirror Of Reason [SNOW]

E/Mo

23 Feb 2008 at 19:12 - 10

Great Dwarf Weapon could help.

Captain Miken

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

23 Feb 2008 at 19:17 - 11

Air of Enchantment Smite, anyone?

<3

[skill]Air of Enchantment[/skill][skill]Zealot's Fire[/skill][skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Reversal of Damage[/skill][skill]charm animal[/skill][skill]comfort animal[/skill]+optional (maybe Guardian?)+res

8+1 prot
10+1+1-3 smiting
12 beast mastery

or

8+1 prot
12+1+1-3 smiting
10 beast mastery

draconicum

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

24 Feb 2008 at 04:51 - 12

Thank you very much for all the info you posted until now mates, quite usefull for me and i am following all of it very closely.
Thanks once more, suberb info

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

24 Feb 2008 at 07:11 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherng Butter

Great Dwarf Weapon could help. QFT. I used this on my warrior and it made me getting my Rainbow Phoenix into the dire evolution soooooo much easier

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

24 Feb 2008 at 14:51 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Miken

Air of Enchantment Smite, anyone?

<3

build That build isn't that bad for a pet monk .. ^^

draconicum

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

24 Feb 2008 at 18:06 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro maniac

That build isn't that bad for a pet monk .. ^^ Yup! I am testing it, cool how it works around the zelot fire and the tank pet.

System_Crush

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2006

Tripping in Holland

My guild died :`(

25 Feb 2008 at 09:53 - 16

I scewed around with [skill=text]Symbiosis[/skill] and enchantments in an attampt to get a 500>800 health hearthy pet on a 600>900 health monk.
You should already have high beast mastery so it should work, my problem was that all areas that do not have enchantment removers seem to have an ample amount of condition causers.
I ended up using [skill=text]Glimmer of Light[/skill] and [skill=text]Zealot's fire[/skill] sadly it was never good enough to get the farming build out of it I was trying to make.
Maybe I should have used a dire pet...

[EDIT]
I forgot glimmer has a recharge now, I wonder if you can still use it to make mobs think they are in a AoEDoT and they wil run hopefully agroing the pet.

i wantz my account back

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2008

SWAT

D/Me

27 Feb 2008 at 14:55 - 17

well there is a couple things you can do if thats the way you want to play a monk I DONT RECCOMEND IT because u cannot 16 beast mastery and the fact you lose 10 armor.

But if thats what you want to do you can always throw prot high enough to make SOR last 8 secs put it on your pet. 40 armor on a pet that rediculous and then you can getput the rest in smite throw a smite rune on your armor and go to work with the holy damge and a massive damage + tank pet.

draconicum

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

28 Feb 2008 at 07:33 - 18

Again, suberb ideias guys. Im trully tankfull for them

i am testing them, and try to see with what of them i work better.
Thx