1. They will not drop in HM
2. They will not drop from creatures higher than lvl 20, lvl 19 is the cut off point for q7
3. They will not drop from creatures lower than lvl 14, lvl 15 is the cut of before not getting max damage.
So that gives you the range of lvl 15 - lvl 19. The closer you get to lvl 19 creatures the higher chance they will be max damage however the lower the lvl chance for them to be q7.
That is the best range to have the highest chance to find them.
Why havent people found them recently you ask, well heres the simplest answer I can give.
The main reason why people seem to think they dont drop anymore is really simple. The level range for a q7 to drop is 15-19 the cahance for one to drop from a lvl20 isnt even worth mentioning its that small. Now look where all the q7 have been found at. They are found in those areas now compare the areas of all campaigns to prophicies and then look what the level of creatures are in those relative same areas would be. Its cause after prophecies the majority of the lvls you fight are lvl20+ wheres its not till the desert in prophicies that you really start fighting lvl 20+. That is why people seem to think they dont drop anymore.
Anet has not removed q7 max from dropping ingame. Its just that the lvl ranges have increased dramasticlly for the majority of the other campaigns and the expansion.
BTW for those that still wish to claim they dont drop any longer this is for you.
QUOTE=Gaile;5283696]I spoke with our designer who specializes in items, John. John told me that yes, Req 7 items do drop, but "they are super rare." John knows his stuff, and if he tells me a definite and immediate "yes," as he did, then I believe that he is certain that his answer is accurate.
He's a busy guy, and I got the answer that was requested. I hope you'll understand that I'd rather not go bug him for "is that max this or that skin or those specs or which campaign or what chest or...?" I think it's cool that they drop, and I guess over time, the odds improve that one will be offered for sale or trade. Well, it may be unless the person who gets the drop values having it over selling it, of course. If I got one, I don't think I'd ever part with it![/QUOTE]
Remember guys its upto you if you want to share where you find one and no need to thank me either as thats not why I offered this little bit of info up. Just figured it was time to share the little secret a very very few actually knew.
Here are some clues to have the best clues to ifnd gold max req7's
manitoba1073
Alex the Great
wow, that's interesting. what good mobs fall in that range?
flclisgreat
proof? pics or gtfo
DarkWasp
So most rare skins cant be R7s?
dubiel005
why do u just lead us onto a wild goose chase? ive tried farming several places with no luck. but ya thx for helping me waste hrs of my time. gtfo
My Lipgloss is Cool
Ok...The old thread was forgotten and pushed down to a later page...Why did you make another tread?!
q7s did drop, all that quote proves is that Gaile said they did drop at some point...With out a date that quote is pointless; It could be two years old
q7s did drop, all that quote proves is that Gaile said they did drop at some point...With out a date that quote is pointless; It could be two years old
kicks66
The quote is actually from the past few days, someone asked her and she reported back. They do officially still drop.
freaky naughty
They still do drop as confirmed by Gaile but OP's point is a bit questionable.
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by My Lipgloss is Cool
Ok...The old thread was forgotten and pushed down to a later page...Why did you make another tread?!
q7s did drop, all that quote proves is that Gaile said they did drop at some point...With out a date that quote is pointless; It could be two years old the thread got closed to retarded flamers is what happened to it. and as far as date on the quote it was 2 days ago. here you go to see for yourself.
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=474427
q7s did drop, all that quote proves is that Gaile said they did drop at some point...With out a date that quote is pointless; It could be two years old the thread got closed to retarded flamers is what happened to it. and as far as date on the quote it was 2 days ago. here you go to see for yourself.
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=474427
xPIMPx
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Tokolosi
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Originally Posted by flclisgreat
proof? pics or gtfo
CE Devilman
LA birds do drop fun stuff...
but after 2463 gold ID (all farming)....4-5 got fun mods in the 32 months
I might make a deal to the
but after 2463 gold ID (all farming)....4-5 got fun mods in the 32 months
I might make a deal to the
novawhiz
AGAIN?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have got to be kidding me!!!!
Close now!!!!
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You have got to be kidding me!!!!
Close now!!!!
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flclisgreat
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Originally Posted by Tokolosi
and they dropped when? in the last year? prove it or gtfo
Marverick
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
1. They will not drop in HM
2. They will not drop from creatures higher than lvl 20, lvl 19 is the cut off point for q7
3. They will not drop from creatures lower than lvl 14, lvl 15 is the cut of before not getting max damage. And how can you confirm these statements?
Now level >=15 I'll probably believe, but why not in HM and why not higher than level 20?
2. They will not drop from creatures higher than lvl 20, lvl 19 is the cut off point for q7
3. They will not drop from creatures lower than lvl 14, lvl 15 is the cut of before not getting max damage. And how can you confirm these statements?
Now level >=15 I'll probably believe, but why not in HM and why not higher than level 20?
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by Marverick
And how can you confirm these statements?
Now level >=15 I'll probably believe, but why not in HM and why not higher than level 20? Because of the level of the creatures in HM are a minimum of lvl 24 and the chances to get one from there is so astronomically small its not really worth even trying.
Where exactly do you think 99% of the other ones dropped from and there lvl ranges were. Req 7 celestials item came from a great number of vermin and the chests near them. Sunqa blades from SJ island chests in the last area, once again there lvl range. In prophicies the most req 7's came from maguuma jungle region to crystal desert again whats the lvl ranges there.
Now level >=15 I'll probably believe, but why not in HM and why not higher than level 20? Because of the level of the creatures in HM are a minimum of lvl 24 and the chances to get one from there is so astronomically small its not really worth even trying.
Where exactly do you think 99% of the other ones dropped from and there lvl ranges were. Req 7 celestials item came from a great number of vermin and the chests near them. Sunqa blades from SJ island chests in the last area, once again there lvl range. In prophicies the most req 7's came from maguuma jungle region to crystal desert again whats the lvl ranges there.
dubiel005
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
Because of the level of the creatures in HM are a minimum of lvl 24 and the chances to get one from there is so astronomically small its not really worth even trying.
Where exactly do you think 99% of the other ones dropped from and there lvl ranges were. Req 7 celestials item came from a great number of vermin and the chests near them. Sunqa blades from SJ island chests in the last area, once again there lvl range. In prophicies the most req 7's came from maguuma jungle region to crystal desert again whats the lvl ranges there. ok so now go grind those places out and try and find a max req7. they are a fluke drop its useless to try and farm them. ull olny get anything like this with extream luck.
Where exactly do you think 99% of the other ones dropped from and there lvl ranges were. Req 7 celestials item came from a great number of vermin and the chests near them. Sunqa blades from SJ island chests in the last area, once again there lvl range. In prophicies the most req 7's came from maguuma jungle region to crystal desert again whats the lvl ranges there. ok so now go grind those places out and try and find a max req7. they are a fluke drop its useless to try and farm them. ull olny get anything like this with extream luck.
Dark Tykane
OMG you people are annoying
why say its wrong unless it's proven
just prove it wrong
I've been looking all over the place to find the location of a lvl 19 boss
get a buncha people to farm him for a day and if no one gets something like this then i would say its wrong
why say its wrong unless it's proven
just prove it wrong
I've been looking all over the place to find the location of a lvl 19 boss
get a buncha people to farm him for a day and if no one gets something like this then i would say its wrong
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by dubiel005
ok so now go grind those places out and try and find a max req7. they are a fluke drop its useless to try and farm them. ull olny get anything like this with extream luck.
I didnt say it wasnt luck in getting one. However you do have to look in the right place to start with. Its that simple. Your best chances to find them is where I said. No one is forcing you or anyone else to do it. You just like everyone else has the choice to do this. If you dont believe or dont want to that is fine. You dont go to a tofu shop to buy beef now do you?
masta_yoda
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Originally Posted by Tokolosi
this was from more than a year old , he doesnt play anymore, so ur proof means jack all
dubiel005
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
I didnt say it wasnt luck in getting one. However you do have to look in the right place to start with. Its that simple. Your best chances to find them is where I said. No one is forcing you or anyone else to do it. You just like everyone else has the choice to do this. If you dont believe or dont want to that is fine. You dont go to a tofu shop to buy beef now do you?
how do u think i dont believe req 7s drop? they do and i know u need to look in the right place but wht im saying is its a total fluke tht u get one and dont bother all ur time into trying to get a req 7 because u hav slim to no chance ull get one.
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by dubiel005
how do u think i dont believe req 7s drop? they do and i know u need to look in the right place but wht im saying is its a total fluke tht u get one and dont bother all ur time into trying to get a req 7 because u hav slim to no chance ull get one.
Thats why I said it was peoples choices to look and helped them to know where. No ones saying waste all your or anyones elses time looking. However if they so chose to do it now they know the best places and what to look for to have the best chance to do it. Thats all I have been saying and posting all along. Nothing more and nothing less. You cant win the lottery if you dont play. And now if anyone else comes into the forum they can be directed here or if they need they get redirected with the search.
strcpy
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Originally Posted by Dark Tykane
OMG you people are annoying
why say its wrong unless it's proven
just prove it wrong That is tough to do - I can't prove many things to be wrong. Without meaning anything personal (wait a bit before you flame me) I can't prove you aren't an idiot. While I don't particularly think you are, there is no way to prove you aren't. There is also no way to prove I'm not legally retarded either and I'm pretty sure I'm not legally retarded any more than you are stupid- yet stating that I am isn't going to get one very far unless you can prove I am not.
As such, especially if it isn't "common knowledge" (and that isn't terribly accurate most of the time either) they need to prove it. The OP stated something fairly concrete and testable that no one else is privy too and, as such, really needs to prove it. That or they need to add a disclaimer that this is what they *think* to be the case. At the least they need to show that they are mostly correct based on what past req 7's dropped, otherwise it is just numbers they chose at semi-random.
Yet, I do tend to think they are on the right tract. My drops have changed quite a bit since I started farming HM and I have always been the type that farmed steady income (never had the time needed to devote to runs that would pay off in rares). I sometimes found a true rare before but haven'tin a while. Were I to tell you a difference it was with level and the "rare" was on the low end of the requirements. I would definitely say that if level played a part in requirements then I can *fully* understand why we see so few req7's due to HM farming.
I also can't say it wouldn't be "profitable" to farm for them unless you were able to give the requisite amount of hours to find one. If you get one every 2000 hours then someone like me who only has 1600+ hours in game it doesn't make sense to farm them yet people who have played 6000+ hours maybe so (given that bids are into the millions of plat).
Eh, it's not that clear cut. Though, with respect to the quote it is the responsibility of the person making a claim to at least show a preponderance of the evidence. This is especially true if something goes against "conventional wisdom".
why say its wrong unless it's proven
just prove it wrong That is tough to do - I can't prove many things to be wrong. Without meaning anything personal (wait a bit before you flame me) I can't prove you aren't an idiot. While I don't particularly think you are, there is no way to prove you aren't. There is also no way to prove I'm not legally retarded either and I'm pretty sure I'm not legally retarded any more than you are stupid- yet stating that I am isn't going to get one very far unless you can prove I am not.
As such, especially if it isn't "common knowledge" (and that isn't terribly accurate most of the time either) they need to prove it. The OP stated something fairly concrete and testable that no one else is privy too and, as such, really needs to prove it. That or they need to add a disclaimer that this is what they *think* to be the case. At the least they need to show that they are mostly correct based on what past req 7's dropped, otherwise it is just numbers they chose at semi-random.
Yet, I do tend to think they are on the right tract. My drops have changed quite a bit since I started farming HM and I have always been the type that farmed steady income (never had the time needed to devote to runs that would pay off in rares). I sometimes found a true rare before but haven'tin a while. Were I to tell you a difference it was with level and the "rare" was on the low end of the requirements. I would definitely say that if level played a part in requirements then I can *fully* understand why we see so few req7's due to HM farming.
I also can't say it wouldn't be "profitable" to farm for them unless you were able to give the requisite amount of hours to find one. If you get one every 2000 hours then someone like me who only has 1600+ hours in game it doesn't make sense to farm them yet people who have played 6000+ hours maybe so (given that bids are into the millions of plat).
Eh, it's not that clear cut. Though, with respect to the quote it is the responsibility of the person making a claim to at least show a preponderance of the evidence. This is especially true if something goes against "conventional wisdom".
360??
/lock. These threads are breaking my caremeters. ~~
Horible
I'm going to do some research with these theories today
seeing as though i have hardcore farmed many areas and never gotten a r7 weapon, if i get one, things might be looking up
seeing as though i have hardcore farmed many areas and never gotten a r7 weapon, if i get one, things might be looking up
Bull Dogg
Interesting I've sold it now but i used to have a gold req 7 14-21 brute sword i cant remember exactly because it was about a year ago but i think a termite outside yohlon haven dropped it.
Tokolosi
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Originally Posted by masta_yoda
this was from more than a year old , he doesnt play anymore, so ur proof means jack all
If anything I think what Gaile said is more than enough proof.
She asked some person and he said definitely they do drop. Not "They used to drop but they don't anymore"...
She asked some person and he said definitely they do drop. Not "They used to drop but they don't anymore"...
Qdq Swi
Does it really matter? if u get a q7 item good for you.. I dont see why people make such a fuss and go "bla bla bla wrong bla bla bla" and "bla bla bla luck bla bla bla" not like never getting a q7 max is the end of the world..
shogun avatar
Well if it helps, i had PURPLE and WHITE r7 max dmg fellblades dropped in ring of fire islands (white one was from spider and purple from dryder). Purple had no initiante modifier however. If item requirement is connected to the mob level, i think your teory is false. (i'm assuming that same rules for base items apply for all item qualities)
This was over a year ago however.
This was over a year ago however.
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by shogun avatar
Well if it helps, i had PURPLE and WHITE r7 max dmg fellblades dropped in ring of fire islands (white one was from spider and purple from dryder). Purple had no initiante modifier however. If item requirement is connected to the mob level, i think your teory is false. (i'm assuming that same rules for base items apply for all item qualities)
This was over a year ago however. it is connected. You wont find a max damage from a lvl 14 and below and wont find a req7 from above lvl 20 ( minus very very small exceptions) which them being so small a chance it really isnt worth taking a note on them.
This was over a year ago however. it is connected. You wont find a max damage from a lvl 14 and below and wont find a req7 from above lvl 20 ( minus very very small exceptions) which them being so small a chance it really isnt worth taking a note on them.
PinoyRurik
if req7 should do exist pre-nf, gaile should post a SS..
o wait she could just generate that...
o wait she could just generate that...
shogun avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by manitoba1073
it is connected. You wont find a max damage from a lvl 14 and below and wont find a req7 from above lvl 20 ( minus very very small exceptions) which them being so small a chance it really isnt worth taking a note on them.
That's just the point of my post. Both r7s i got were from lvl 24 monsters.
Axel Zinfandel
If a number of the people working for Anet can come out and say that Req 7s drop, why the hell would you continue to deny it? Sorry to break it to you, but you aren't important enough for Anet to lie blatantly to... so seriously stop with the "or GTFO" stuff :P
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by shogun avatar
That's just the point of my post. Both r7s i got were from lvl 24 monsters.
Did you miss the point where I said the exceptions? I said the chances of those comming from those higher levels are very very small. Grats on being lucky enough to hit that small chance.
krammit
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Originally Posted by strcpy
That is tough to do - I can't prove many things to be wrong. Without meaning anything personal (wait a bit before you flame me) I can't prove you aren't an idiot. While I don't particularly think you are, there is no way to prove you aren't. There is also no way to prove I'm not legally retarded either and I'm pretty sure I'm not legally retarded any more than you are stupid- yet stating that I am isn't going to get one very far unless you can prove I am not.
As such, especially if it isn't "common knowledge" (and that isn't terribly accurate most of the time either) they need to prove it. The OP stated something fairly concrete and testable that no one else is privy too and, as such, really needs to prove it. That or they need to add a disclaimer that this is what they *think* to be the case. At the least they need to show that they are mostly correct based on what past req 7's dropped, otherwise it is just numbers they chose at semi-random.
Yet, I do tend to think they are on the right tract. My drops have changed quite a bit since I started farming HM and I have always been the type that farmed steady income (never had the time needed to devote to runs that would pay off in rares). I sometimes found a true rare before but haven'tin a while. Were I to tell you a difference it was with level and the "rare" was on the low end of the requirements. I would definitely say that if level played a part in requirements then I can *fully* understand why we see so few req7's due to HM farming.
I also can't say it wouldn't be "profitable" to farm for them unless you were able to give the requisite amount of hours to find one. If you get one every 2000 hours then someone like me who only has 1600+ hours in game it doesn't make sense to farm them yet people who have played 6000+ hours maybe so (given that bids are into the millions of plat).
Eh, it's not that clear cut. Though, with respect to the quote it is the responsibility of the person making a claim to at least show a preponderance of the evidence. This is especially true if something goes against "conventional wisdom". Sir your rhetoric is impeccable. /agree
As such, especially if it isn't "common knowledge" (and that isn't terribly accurate most of the time either) they need to prove it. The OP stated something fairly concrete and testable that no one else is privy too and, as such, really needs to prove it. That or they need to add a disclaimer that this is what they *think* to be the case. At the least they need to show that they are mostly correct based on what past req 7's dropped, otherwise it is just numbers they chose at semi-random.
Yet, I do tend to think they are on the right tract. My drops have changed quite a bit since I started farming HM and I have always been the type that farmed steady income (never had the time needed to devote to runs that would pay off in rares). I sometimes found a true rare before but haven'tin a while. Were I to tell you a difference it was with level and the "rare" was on the low end of the requirements. I would definitely say that if level played a part in requirements then I can *fully* understand why we see so few req7's due to HM farming.
I also can't say it wouldn't be "profitable" to farm for them unless you were able to give the requisite amount of hours to find one. If you get one every 2000 hours then someone like me who only has 1600+ hours in game it doesn't make sense to farm them yet people who have played 6000+ hours maybe so (given that bids are into the millions of plat).
Eh, it's not that clear cut. Though, with respect to the quote it is the responsibility of the person making a claim to at least show a preponderance of the evidence. This is especially true if something goes against "conventional wisdom". Sir your rhetoric is impeccable. /agree
freaky naughty
Ok no one is dissagreeing that they drop, we're just dissagreeing with the OP's theory that they drop from monsters lvl 15-19.
My Lipgloss is Cool
Actually, there is very much an argument that they drop. What you may have meant, however, is that no one is disagreeing that they droppED.
Hullo_0
ice trolls outta droks used to drop plain white r7 swords and shields, not sure if they still do.
i wantz my account back
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Originally Posted by Marverick
And how can you confirm these statements?
Now level >=15 I'll probably believe, but why not in HM and why not higher than level 20? the reason that q7 dont drop in hm is because of the level of mobs 24+ and the reason the dont drop off of level 20+ mobs is because the creatures(mobs) do not need that low of a req for a max weapon and the dont off of stuff below lebvel 14-15 is because a creature with a wepon that hits that high would be unfair for you the player
Now level >=15 I'll probably believe, but why not in HM and why not higher than level 20? the reason that q7 dont drop in hm is because of the level of mobs 24+ and the reason the dont drop off of level 20+ mobs is because the creatures(mobs) do not need that low of a req for a max weapon and the dont off of stuff below lebvel 14-15 is because a creature with a wepon that hits that high would be unfair for you the player
Ajank3r
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Originally Posted by PinoyRurik
if req7 should do exist pre-nf, gaile should post a SS..
o wait she could just generate that... Hmmmmm, because you assume that Anet staff can generate weapons?
I seriously doubt that the designers would allow a character to create a weapon, considering the risk it would create in such an unbalanced economy as GW's that an admin would create an impossible item eg. r6 weapon or alot of armbrances.
/sigh
People will never learn... Economics is just to boring of a course to take in High School...
Anyways, on topic now. I don't understand why so many people are reputing the opinion that r7's still drop post NF. If you would like to get this painful conversation over with get a statement from an Anet staff member and post a link! ( I find it ironic that many people on threads like this do not follow their own criticisms of the OP)
Thanks for reading my opinion and let the responses spawn like jellyfish!
o wait she could just generate that... Hmmmmm, because you assume that Anet staff can generate weapons?
I seriously doubt that the designers would allow a character to create a weapon, considering the risk it would create in such an unbalanced economy as GW's that an admin would create an impossible item eg. r6 weapon or alot of armbrances.
/sigh
People will never learn... Economics is just to boring of a course to take in High School...
Anyways, on topic now. I don't understand why so many people are reputing the opinion that r7's still drop post NF. If you would like to get this painful conversation over with get a statement from an Anet staff member and post a link! ( I find it ironic that many people on threads like this do not follow their own criticisms of the OP)
Thanks for reading my opinion and let the responses spawn like jellyfish!