Swearing and GW
Ju-On
Ok so I got a bit hot under the collor because my poor old dervish was getting pwned. Fair enough, I probably shouldn't of sworn about my inability to play the character in general chat, but a 71 hour suspension for swearing which is censored anyway? I'm having alot of trouble trying to work out how some one can find ---- so offensive to report it? Its not even a word you can see! Alternatively, are there people who monitor the chat channels and suspend players for unruley behaviour? Because seriously, I've seen alot worse than swearing on the chat channels and those players seemed to have no trouble continuing with their behaviour. Ah well, lessoned learned, turn off chat screen when my builds are going pear shaped...
Rexion
I don't understand why ANet suspends for swearing when there are sometimes people cybering IN local chat... or the occasional racial/sexual preference-fight-fest.
MaDDoG1221
Actually if you goto into the options you can change the word filter to OFF.
I only swear amongst my guildies but never in pub chat.
I only swear amongst my guildies but never in pub chat.
Cacheelma
How hard is it to NOT swearing, anyway?
Just because there's a filter doesn't mean you can swear and bad mouth and use foul language whenever you want. Ok?
Judging from your behavior here, I'd say you deserve it in every imaginable way.
Deal with it.
Just because there's a filter doesn't mean you can swear and bad mouth and use foul language whenever you want. Ok?
Judging from your behavior here, I'd say you deserve it in every imaginable way.
Deal with it.
Ju-On
"How hard is it to NOT swearing, anyway?"
Considering its one of the most harmless things you can do, very hard. Ok. So there's alot of puritans who play GW. Thanks for the heads up Cacheelma. So swearing is bad, being racist, sexist etc dosen't matter.
Considering its one of the most harmless things you can do, very hard. Ok. So there's alot of puritans who play GW. Thanks for the heads up Cacheelma. So swearing is bad, being racist, sexist etc dosen't matter.
Cacheelma
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Originally Posted by Ju-On
Considering its one of the most harmless things you can do, very hard.
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Originally Posted by Ju-On
So swearing is bad, being racist, sexist etc dosen't matter.
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Go try being racist after you get unbanned. See if your next ban is still as "impermanent".
RavagerOfDreams
its stupid i agree there's a filter and that should be enough
Ju-On
"Go try being racist after you get unbanned"
No, thats my point. I'm neither racist or sexist, but occassionly when things go pear shaped for me and I swear. It happens, its also filtered for puritans who cannot handle reality. Yet, they still seemed to be offended by a censored word. Like I oringially ask, how can ---- be offensive enough for a 71 hour suspension? It totally undermines and contradicts the logic of placing a option on the swear filter in the first place.
No, thats my point. I'm neither racist or sexist, but occassionly when things go pear shaped for me and I swear. It happens, its also filtered for puritans who cannot handle reality. Yet, they still seemed to be offended by a censored word. Like I oringially ask, how can ---- be offensive enough for a 71 hour suspension? It totally undermines and contradicts the logic of placing a option on the swear filter in the first place.
Pleikki
Nah Anet should focus Sexist racism etc more then bad language.. ill hope they could control it someone that you ban first only few hours but if it continues again it would raise and raise and raise. even from small ban ppl learn
Ju-On
lol. Ahh the convoluted arrogance of a puritan. Learn to read instead of prejudging people please.
"I guess its best to follow the TOS, can anyone point me in the direction where I can find this ToS plz. I've got 3 days to kill..."
"I guess its best to follow the TOS, can anyone point me in the direction where I can find this ToS plz. I've got 3 days to kill..."
thor hammerbane
It's the internet. Deal with swearing. Being banned for swearing in a game with an optional chat filter is just rubbish..Learn to play anet?
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Cacheelma
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Now, SUCK IT.
Now, SUCK IT.
Kumu Honua
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Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams
its stupid i agree there's a filter and that should be enough
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I can't count the amount of times there are spaces in the first and second letter of a swear just to force it upon those that don't want to hear it.
I personally wouldn't report someone for a single swear or even a couple. A stream? You bet. Especially if it's accompanied by other violations which is often the case.
To the OP: You got suspended for a violation of the TOS, even if it is relatively minor, it was an infraction. Suck it up, do the time, and perhaps learn to curb your language in the future when dealing with public chat.
Operative 14
I can't help but think there's more to this story than just a tiny little ----. It does seem to take a good bit, at least a reasonable offense, to get banned in GW. What exactly did you type..?
Meat Axe
Most of the time when someone gets banned for "swearing" they actually get banned for "swearing at someone", which is abuse. It doesn't matter if there is a chat filter, it's still abuse if you're setting out to deliberately insult someone.
Now, I may be jumping to conclusions here, but judging by the fact that two words were enough to coax the OP into calling someone a "prude", I'd say it wouldn't take much for it to become more abusive (I don't view "prude" as offensive or abusive, but someone might). If I'm wrong, and you really did nothing more harmful than uttering a simple curse word at no one in particular, than I apologise.
The problem here is that, even if you didn't mean it to be aimed at anyone in particular, someone might have misconstrued your intentions and taken offense. For instance, had you said "----ing dervishes suck", I can see someone reporting that, because it is more or less a personal attack at anyone who chooses to play that profession (even if you didn't mean it that way).
As someone else mentioned, a lot of people try to work their way around the chat filter, which is an understandably bannable offense. Maybe you didn't deliberately do it, but a simple typo could have made your word pass by the filter, and someone reported you thinking you did it deliberately.
However, it all comes down to one thing. It's Anet's decision. I can understand why they wanna keep their game clean, even if there is a chat filter already. I have no problem with swearing, but in an MMO where there are millions of players, all from different cultures, you have to have certain rules set in place to prevent huge incidents occuring. I'd say just take a break from the game for three days, and live with it. Flaming Anet isn't going to do anything (and it always happens in these threads, even if it wasn't the original intention of the OP), and it really just makes you look petty and weakens your case.
Now, I may be jumping to conclusions here, but judging by the fact that two words were enough to coax the OP into calling someone a "prude", I'd say it wouldn't take much for it to become more abusive (I don't view "prude" as offensive or abusive, but someone might). If I'm wrong, and you really did nothing more harmful than uttering a simple curse word at no one in particular, than I apologise.
The problem here is that, even if you didn't mean it to be aimed at anyone in particular, someone might have misconstrued your intentions and taken offense. For instance, had you said "----ing dervishes suck", I can see someone reporting that, because it is more or less a personal attack at anyone who chooses to play that profession (even if you didn't mean it that way).
As someone else mentioned, a lot of people try to work their way around the chat filter, which is an understandably bannable offense. Maybe you didn't deliberately do it, but a simple typo could have made your word pass by the filter, and someone reported you thinking you did it deliberately.
However, it all comes down to one thing. It's Anet's decision. I can understand why they wanna keep their game clean, even if there is a chat filter already. I have no problem with swearing, but in an MMO where there are millions of players, all from different cultures, you have to have certain rules set in place to prevent huge incidents occuring. I'd say just take a break from the game for three days, and live with it. Flaming Anet isn't going to do anything (and it always happens in these threads, even if it wasn't the original intention of the OP), and it really just makes you look petty and weakens your case.
garethporlest18
I do a lot of those things that are against the ToS. Oh well. Oh and OP those puritans you're talking about uncheck the filter just so they can report you.
Nothing you can do about it though, bitching here won't help anything. Just get you flamed that's about it, cause Trollru erm.. I mean Guru is like that.
Nothing you can do about it though, bitching here won't help anything. Just get you flamed that's about it, cause Trollru erm.. I mean Guru is like that.
Terra Xin
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Originally Posted by Operative 14
I can't help but think there's more to this story than just a tiny little ----. It does seem to take a good bit, at least a reasonable offense, to get banned in GW. What exactly did you type..?
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MisterB
ANet gave you 72 hours to learn self-control.
You might also have some time to read the terms of service to avoid this in the future.
You might also have some time to read the terms of service to avoid this in the future.
Kumu Honua
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Originally Posted by Reason
I still think that if you turn off the chat filters you are consenting to people using foul language. If you don't like it leave the filters on, it is stupid that cussing is a bannable offence.
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This is a common cop-out. "There's a filter! You should use it if you are offended by foul language."
That's not the point. Some people aren't offended by the occasional swear, but a constant stream as seen from many different types of people are too much. Those people don't want to see your stream of profanity and have the filter off so they can see everything said in their guild chat and whatnot.
The existence of a filter does not mean you should feel free to swear like a sailor, and the mere existence of temp bans being given out by Anet by such an occurrence allegedly is evidence of that same thought process.
Kook~NBK~
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Originally Posted by Cacheelma
Now, SUCK IT.
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Now, this same topic's been discussed before several times. If you're mad about getting a time-out for using foul language, remember this and maybe you'll refrain from using it in the future.
It's kinda surprising that people use the "use the chat filter" arguement. The chat filter does not absolve anyone from complying with the EULA.
cosyfiep
it takes time to type out that stuff....I mean, if you need to vent---do it out loud, then you wont get in trouble for taking the time to type out something that shouldnt be. (unless you are on vent or tc then turn if off -- then swear you heart out out loud, and resume.)
If its something you cant say out loud, then geez, maybe you shouldnt be typing it either!!!!!!!
If its something you cant say out loud, then geez, maybe you shouldnt be typing it either!!!!!!!
Gift3d
SWEARING should not be a bannable offense, and if it is, shame on ANet. Just ridiculous and i don't feel like getting worked up about how much of an IDIOTIC thing this is.
THIS IS THE POINT OF THE WORD FILTER. IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE BIG-BOY GROWN-UP LANGUAGE, PUT THE WORDFILTER ON AND QUIT YOUR WHINING AND BITCHING.
However, bypassing the wordfilter should be a bannable offense. Any children or sensitive pansies out there -- put your wordfilter on and go back to living in your online utopia where your ignorant little naive mind can be at peace.
THIS IS THE POINT OF THE WORD FILTER. IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE BIG-BOY GROWN-UP LANGUAGE, PUT THE WORDFILTER ON AND QUIT YOUR WHINING AND BITCHING.
However, bypassing the wordfilter should be a bannable offense. Any children or sensitive pansies out there -- put your wordfilter on and go back to living in your online utopia where your ignorant little naive mind can be at peace.
Avarre
There's a difference between being 'mature' by using profanity and just being an idiot by cursing liberally.
Being an idiot should be punished.
Being an idiot should be punished.
Biostem
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Originally Posted by Gift3d
SWEARING should not be a bannable offense, and if it is, shame on ANet. Just ridiculous and i don't feel like getting worked up about how much of an IDIOTIC thing this is.
THIS IS THE POINT OF THE WORD FILTER. IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE BIG-BOY GROWN-UP LANGUAGE, PUT THE WORDFILTER ON AND QUIT YOUR WHINING AND BITCHING. However, bypassing the wordfilter should be a bannable offense. Any children or sensitive pansies out there -- put your wordfilter on and go back to living in your online utopia where your ignorant little naive mind can be at peace. |
Reason
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Originally Posted by Gift3d
SWEARING should not be a bannable offense, and if it is, shame on ANet. Just ridiculous and i don't feel like getting worked up about how much of an IDIOTIC thing this is.
THIS IS THE POINT OF THE WORD FILTER. IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE BIG-BOY GROWN-UP LANGUAGE, PUT THE WORDFILTER ON AND QUIT YOUR WHINING AND BITCHING. However, bypassing the wordfilter should be a bannable offense. Any children or sensitive pansies out there -- put your wordfilter on and go back to living in your online utopia where your ignorant little naive mind can be at peace. |
B-I-N-G-O! Could not have said it better myself.
Ju-On
Ok, just to clear some things up.
1. I did not and do not swear or harasse other players.
2. I didn't type in swear words to by-pass the filter.
3. I was getting killed doing the hatchling quests in NF. First time I said
"---- I'm stuck", the second time I said "this is a ----ing joke why do they make normal mode so ----ing hard", and third time "I can't ----ing believe how piss weak dervishes are" or something to that effect.
Then I got the suspension message for 71 hours.
1. I did not and do not swear or harasse other players.
2. I didn't type in swear words to by-pass the filter.
3. I was getting killed doing the hatchling quests in NF. First time I said
"---- I'm stuck", the second time I said "this is a ----ing joke why do they make normal mode so ----ing hard", and third time "I can't ----ing believe how piss weak dervishes are" or something to that effect.
Then I got the suspension message for 71 hours.
Biostem
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Originally Posted by Ju-On
Ok, just to clear some things up.
1. I did not and do not swear at other players. 2. I didn't type in swear words to by pass the filter. 3. I was getting killed doing the hatchling quests in NF. First time I said "---- I'm stuck", the second time I said "this is a ----ing joke why do they make normal mode so ----ing hard", and third time "I can't ----ing believe how piss weak dervishes are" or something to that effect. Then I got the suspension message for 71 hours. |
Ju-On
HAHA. Dude there is a bridge somewhere with your name on it, crawl back under it and GTFO.
"Now SUCK IT"
Oh the hypocracy!
"Now SUCK IT"
Oh the hypocracy!
It's A Me
I swear a lot in the game, it helps me vent my frustration at stupid things that go wrong for some reason. I havent been banned yet, the swear words are never aimed at anyone but its bloody nice to be able to say what you want. Anyway, like people said, turn on the filter and get on with it, if it still bothers you when you see lines, then im sorry but GTFO.
RPGmaniac
So what do you say when you get mad?
Gosh darn, this mission is really irking me!
Yeah, that doesn't have the same kind of release as:
God damn! This mission is really pissing me off!
Sucks about the ban, maybe from now on just don't type when you get angry
And don't tell me you don't say anything at all, because that's bottling in your feelings and that is slightly unhealthy.
That being said, I don't like when people swear when it's nowhere near necessary, but I just do a nice little /ignore for those people.
Gosh darn, this mission is really irking me!
Yeah, that doesn't have the same kind of release as:
God damn! This mission is really pissing me off!
Sucks about the ban, maybe from now on just don't type when you get angry
And don't tell me you don't say anything at all, because that's bottling in your feelings and that is slightly unhealthy.
That being said, I don't like when people swear when it's nowhere near necessary, but I just do a nice little /ignore for those people.
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by Ju-On
"---- I'm stuck", the second time I said "this is a ----ing joke why do they make normal mode so ----ing hard", and third time "I can't ----ing believe how piss weak dervishes are" or something to that effect.
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It's just a temp ban. Live and learn. No reason to get all bent out of shape.
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And don't tell me you don't say anything at all, because that's bottling in your feelings and that is slightly unhealthy.
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RPGmaniac
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
That's just it, when I get pissed, I say something... SAY. I don't take the time to type it out so others can join my rant.
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Cacheelma
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Originally Posted by Ju-On
HAHA. Dude there is a bridge somewhere with your name on it, crawl back under it and GTFO.
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Point me to where I said I never swear; you're the one who assumed that I'm a prude (your word).
I swear, all the time. I just never do it in public OR where it's inappropriate. How hard is it to do just that? And since when that makes you a hypocrite?
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Same here. I almost never express my anger through text, and even if I do, I talk to someone not involved in the problem or is on my side. I may be ranting and cursing behind the monitor, but you might get something that could be interpreted as coming from someone completely level headed.
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RPGmaniac
Then you should've mentioned that part earlier. Everything you said implied that you never swear and those that do deserve the banhammer.
Breakdowns in communication FTL
Breakdowns in communication FTL
Fril Estelin
Is it possible that you actually used swear words not caught by the filter? Or even that you tried to bypass the filter? I mean, it's your word against Anet's, who shall we trust?
Tatile
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Oh the hypocracy!
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Really though, your use of swearing seems a bit excessive, almost to the point were I personally would consider doing something about it (reporting, but only for the purpose of a warning, not a ban at this time, as I don't know how much you swear in general). However, I do feel that the repetitive use of '----'s is somewhat indicative of a lack of imagination, as really, there are far more amsuing terms you could be using. Hopefully though this is a lesson learned for next time
Cacheelma
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Then you should've mentioned that part earlier. Everything you said implied that you never swear and those that do deserve the banhammer.
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Breakdowns in communication? Try NOT attacking people next time and stay on topic.
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Originally Posted by thehoweller
Having a content filter is makes swearing allowable,
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Uber Mass
every1 swears... Its the way how you swear and in wich context you swear..
Some people are offended easily some arent..
Some people are offended easily some arent..
thehoweller
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Originally Posted by Cacheelma
Yeah you keep telling yourself that. But please don't come here and cry about getting banned because you "relieve stress and have fun" in your own, not-prune way.
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I just think it's hypocritical that Anet bends for 12 year olds who turn off filters, then whine because their minds hurt.