Did you buy Elite Tome for your Character

Bluefeather

Bluefeather

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Philippines

[PNOY]

W/R

I bought one Elite Tome for my new Warrior and I used it to learn Dragon Slash. I bought it for 6k.

I noticed that Elite Tomes are sold high (and people are buying it). There are other players who are selling Normal tome for more than 1k (LOL max price of tome from NPC is 1k).

How about you? Did you buy Elite for your new character? Does it worth the price of your tome?

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

I didn't buy them, I think it's a waste. If you buy them early, then you can't really use it because your attribute is low. But if you are really desperate, I guess you could buy it. Also if you are survivor, you should probably cap it unless you went boxing. So, in all, No I did not.

Vitues

Vitues

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Sydney, Australia

Mo/W

got all monk elites via tomes

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

I "used" the ones I had for some secondary elites because it's too troublesome to bring my Rit to cap them.

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

No, but I start new chars that often. I only sell them.

Bluefeather

Bluefeather

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Philippines

[PNOY]

W/R

Tomes (skills) don't need attributes right? Like, I can use Dragon Slash even if im level 3?

@ Vitues, you must be very rich. Too many gold or working on titles?

Cherng Butter

Cherng Butter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Maryland

The Mirror Of Reason [SNOW]

E/Mo

I used Mind Blast at level 2. What?

I used an elite Warrior tome for Warrior's Endurance because I can't be bothered to go cap it.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

When I am making chars PvP ready that I know will run at most two to three bars, I give them tomes for everything.

My ranger and warrior are a good example of this.

Musei Karasu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefeather
@ Vitues, you must be very rich. Too many gold or working on titles?
I got my assassin all elites and all reg skills using tomes. They're not that expensive.

For me, characters who are for a specific purpose(IE, not my main) will get their elites from tomes unless the elite is close. My main doesn't need to cap/use tomes for elites(legendary skill capper ).

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefeather
There are other players who are selling Normal tome for more than 1k (LOL max price of tome from NPC is 1k).
Tomes are not the same as buying skills from NPCs.

pfaile

pfaile

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Orlando

Divine Order of Heroes

P/R

"(LOL max price of tome from NPC is 1k)."

What NPC sells tomes?

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

No. My guildies have kindly donated about 5 warrior elites to me though. Go go D-Slash spammin'

I would though. Elites can be useful at lower levels.

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

I've used tomes to get some skills for my 55. Same with my warrior since I didn't feel like going to cap some of the skills I wanted for him (Eviscerate being a fine example seeing as I can NEVER find it in SF). Other than that I typically sell my tomes to fuel my ranger's progress toward elite skill hunter. Only 40 something skills left to go

You can use tomes at any level, but often your attribute points are too low to get the most out of a skill. Dragon Slash, for instance is best used with at least 14 swordsmanship because then you can use a shout that doubles adrenaline and spam it as much as you want.

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

N/

i use the ones i find because i cant be bothered to sell the regs for such low prices. and the elites i find i usually have a need for anywho

Bluefeather

Bluefeather

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Philippines

[PNOY]

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by pfaile
"(LOL max price of tome from NPC is 1k)."

What NPC sells tomes?
Beeeeeee reasonable of course you know what i meant. Skills from skill trainers.

Bluefeather

Bluefeather

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Philippines

[PNOY]

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
Tomes are not the same as buying skills from NPCs.
I think they are the same for me because I have purchased all unlock skills (including core). So, wherever my character is, I can buy anything from the first Skill Trainer. That is if we are talking about normal tomes which i mentioned in my post.

Unless there are other things that I need to know about tomes.

@ Malice, its really good to have good guild. The last time i was in a guild, i kept giving never receiving (LOL no offense to my former guildmates).

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefeather
Beeeeeee reasonable of course you know what i meant. Skills from skill trainers.
And they're not the same. Skills from skill trainers also require skill points. And for some skills, they aren't available during the early parts of the game (this only apply to Nightfall I think).

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

I buy only 1 or 2 elite tomes (to unlock good elites) for my characters if the desired elite skills are far within the storyline.

However, I usually end up selling more than buying, resulting in a huge surplus

Bluefeather

Bluefeather

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Philippines

[PNOY]

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
And they're not the same. Skills from skill trainers also require skill points. And for some skills, they aren't available during the early parts of the game (this only apply to Nightfall I think).
Ah wait...i only used Elite Tomes maybe 2 or 3 times. But i've read somewhere that Elite Tomes will also consume 1 skill. Is it correct?

Also, tomes (elite or normal) will only allow you to "learn" skills already unlocked by your other character, right? So, even if the skill is available in the early part of the game and your character have not learned it yet, the skill will not be listed as "learnable" when you use a tome, am I right?

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

Yeah I bought most of all my Sin and Monk elites just so I could pvp and not have to go through chapters.

I only have bought elite really. I've sold hundreds of monk/mes/ele/war tomes

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefeather
Ah wait...i only used Elite Tomes maybe 2 or 3 times. But i've read somewhere that Elite Tomes will also consume 1 skill. Is it correct?

Also, tomes (elite or normal) will only allow you to "learn" skills already unlocked by your other character, right? So, even if the skill is available in the early part of the game and your character have not learned it yet, the skill will not be listed as "learnable" when you use a tome, am I right?
I don't think elite tome needs your skill points to use.

And you're correct about the unlocking part. And that's why I said it only applies to Nightfall-only skills, as I'm quite sure you can't learn some skills in Kamadan even though you've unlocked it.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Bluefeather

Bluefeather

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Philippines

[PNOY]

W/R

I was reading WIKI a while ago about Skill Tomes and it says there that tomes don't consume skill point (so it is really possible to have the title without even actually playing the game.)

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

1,160,000 gold spent on Signet of Captures for four of my characters to have Legendary Skill Hunter.

My fifth character is currently working on getting it also.

I have never used one Elite Tome.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

I would've used elite skill tomes for my 'sin (I am not going all the way through that lame-ass Factions campaign just for Moebius, tyvm); luckily though my baby 'sin was born whilst we could map anywhere with the GH glitch

Zamochit

Zamochit

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/A

I already have one legendary skill hunter and I am not planning on going for it with another one.

I think I used two elite tomes overall for it . One for Feast of Corruption (which I had already capped once on another character) and one for Golden Skull Strike (which I had already capped once on another character). The way I see it ~ its not cheating if youve already capped it once. I didnt buy the tomes either I had them as drops and just used them to save myself the bother of those two "annoying" caps.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefeather
(so it is really possible to have the title without even actually playing the game.)
Tomes need to be farmed or brought and skills need to be unlocked first before tomes will work. So no, you do need to play the game(unless you ebay your gold and buy the pvp unlock packs) to achieve the title, but not on that particular char.

I've only ever used tomes for the elites that are a pain to cap. They otherwise aren't worth it(they were 10-15k when they were first introduced) unless I get them as drops myself. At lvl 2-3, most elites won't do me much good anyway.

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Musei Karasu
I got my assassin all elites and all reg skills using tomes. They're not that expensive.
lol monk tomes and sin tomes have quite a vast difference in price. I can see how it'd be cheap buying enoguh sin elites.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

For new characters.

For existing characters I just wiki some capture locations, choose one, hack a bloody path to the boss in question, kill it, remember that I forgot Signet of Capture, go back and get Signet of Capture, kill boss again, capture skill.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

I only used a W tome for Quivering Blade because it's impossible to get the boss spawn without a quest line. It doesn't make sense paying more than 1k/elite when you can get almost all Canthan/Elonian elites directly outside an outpost.

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

1 elite Sin Tome for mah sin

temple strike cuz ima kurz and i dont wanna do that stupid mish to go get it >: (

artay

artay

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

The Agony Scene

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
Tomes are not the same as buying skills from NPCs.
Yep, they infact do less, since you need to have the skill unlocked.

But I guess convienience is more important.

Sol Deathgard

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shadows of the Dragon

W/N

when tomes came out I already had all skills on all my chars. I saved up normal tomes for gwen skills though, but didn't buy any.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

Nah, I can stand to wait until I can cap the elite for myself. Save some cash. There are very few exceptions to this.

Edit:

Quote:
For existing characters I just wiki some capture locations, choose one, hack a bloody path to the boss in question, kill it, remember that I forgot Signet of Capture, go back and get Signet of Capture, kill boss again, capture skill.
Word.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

I used 1 just so I could have the build I wanted to run from lvl 2. I didn't feel like playing through a good part of the game just to cap the elite I wanted for my build, I would rather use a tome then play through with the elite.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

BUY!? never, USed yes---if I get one to drop I have no problem using it (have a character going for the skill hunter so he would definitely not mind getting a few---)
Have gotten a mesmer one and a warrior one, and used them both.

Death By Ketchup

Death By Ketchup

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Canada

Eternal Transcendence [DRMR]

A/

Well i used a elite ele tome to get mind blast. Can't be bothered to bring my ele threw nf, but then I found that tome. Most of the elite tomes I find I just sell though. I do buy regular tomes though.

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ive only used tomes for Restore Condition,Soul Leech and Fevered dreams.

Bluefeather

Bluefeather

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Philippines

[PNOY]

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkFlame
Tomes need to be farmed or brought and skills need to be unlocked first before tomes will work. So no, you do need to play the game(unless you ebay your gold and buy the pvp unlock packs) to achieve the title, but not on that particular char.

I've only ever used tomes for the elites that are a pain to cap. They otherwise aren't worth it(they were 10-15k when they were first introduced) unless I get them as drops myself. At lvl 2-3, most elites won't do me much good anyway.
I purchased all skills unlock packs. So, my heroes have all skills (normal and elite). I have all skills available in npc (i just have to jump between chapters where the skills are available). all elites are available to me when i use tome.

The only my lvl 3 Warrior need is 450k to earn Legendary Skill Hunter. Too bad i only have 24k atm.

The reason why i asked this is because I am really used to having Elite Skill early part of the game. My earliest for warrior is Cleave, my earliest for Ranger is Barrage. I always got those for Running to Drok even when i'm still below level 10.

The only different now is that I don't have to run anymore and I only have to pay few gold (8k for my new warrior). I'm planning to buy one elite for necro but i still don't feel like playing other character now.

Since most of players use elite tome at very early part of the game, I think I shouldn't feel guilty for having uber character at the start of the game.

LOL Maxed Armor, Maxed Weapon (for cheap price), Elite Skill at level 2. Challenging? Ummm, probably not. But it's fun

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

For a character I want to play I have only ever purchased one elite tome - I was curious as to how a new ranger would play in the noob areas with Barrage, had the gold, and purchased it. I can't say I was terribly happy or unhappy with the decision - while I'm cheap I mostly found it enough fun to be worth wasting the gold.

I have purchased several for farming characters. For the most part I *really* do not like playing a monk or ritualist yet there are areas I do very much enjoy farming with them. As such I don't like going far enough in the game to cap an elite and would rather just use the tome. I now only play them to the furthest farming point I want to do. Since they are farming characters I tend to look at the cost of the tome vs how long to get said skill - if it is "cheaper" (that is, if I can make 8k and hour, tome costs 16k, and it takes three hours to get to the elite then it is cheaper) then I do it, if not then I unlock the area.

Other than that I may use one I found but will not buy. Since I will eventually make it to that area anyway I'm too cheap. I currently have an Assassin that *really* wants two elites but I'm sitting at Vizunah Square until I feel like making the attempt (I *hate* this mission with a passion on *all* my characters). I will also use one I found on my skill hunter characters if it is a skill I don't like to bother with (many of the Tyrian ones that have random spawns).

Mostly I sell them and tend to sell them low so I don't stand around spamming the trade channel or worrying with the trade party window.

Shadowmere

Shadowmere

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Grim Squeakers [REAP]

N/

I haven't bought any elite tomes, I have however used several I've picked up in HM. Reg tomes on the other hand are amazing, i've bought a ton of those. 300g per skill vs 1k. the choice is clear there.