Perma-Bans
U Wanna Die
I logged on to Guild Wars yesterday, and I get a PM from my friend but not on his account. He says, "I have a problem." ANet Perma-banned him for selling in-game items for real money. This never occured. He never sold anything for any money. He is an honest guy who I know well. I sent a complaint e-mail to the report e-mail of GW. I think it is stupid that maybe someone accidently reported him, instead of a bot or something and he got a false ban. ANet needs conclusive evidence to gives bans. I think that my friend, Tarlin Sharpsword (for all ANet reading), deserves his account back.
Julia-Louis Dreyfus
best you can do is have your buddy send a ticket in, posting on here usually does nothing sorry to say
Fril Estelin
Once a report was issued on your friend's illegal activity, Anet probably investigated and saw that indeed he was conducting some kind of illegal activity. Your friend should have read the EULA more carefully. He's the only one that can complain to Anet and defend his case. I don't know what you've got to do with it (apart from sympathising).
Meat Axe
The only way for your friend to get his account back is to contact support. You shouldn't have sent an email for him, especially not a "complaint" email, since it may have made the situation worse. If you're rude to support, they're less likely to help you. Just tell your friend to be polite. Accidents happen. People can get accidentally banned for something they didn't do. If they contact support, and are polite, then if they are innocent, they'll get their account back in a couple of days. Personally, I'd rather have a couple of innocent people banned and get their account back than have no action taken against the bots.
Rushin Roulette
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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin
Once a report was issued on your friend's illegal activity, Anet probably investigated and saw that indeed he was conducting some kind of illegal activity. Your friend should have read the EULA more carefully. He's the only one that can complain to Anet and defend his case. I don't know what you've got to do with it (apart from sympathising).
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Ive seen quite a few posts in this forum saying that users were perma-banned (on some accounts even multiple times ) by mistake and have recieved their account back from Anet.
@OP
Just tell your friend to contact support himself. If hes innocent (could have been an autoban because of trading between his main and his secondary account), then he will get his account reinstated after the Ticket has been processed.
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette
Things like that will probably get you flamed a lot I guess.
Ive seen quite a few posts in this forum saying that users were perma-banned (on some accounts even multiple times ) by mistake and have recieved their account back from Anet. |
ANet Perma-banned him for selling in-game items for real money.
This is not written in any ban notice as far as I know. So where did he got it? If it's just a misunderstanding, then I apologise to the OP and hope that, if his friend is not lying, he gets back his account.
afya
My guild leader is perma-banned also. The reason given by Anet is that she is buying gold. However, she never did that. She was transfering money from her brother's account to hers(Anet doesn't trust her tho). May be your friend has transfered some items/money from one to another?
btw, my guild leader never get her account back, which is pretty sad. NC support team told in an e-mail that, they don't have a very good method to distinguish between gold buyer & transfer between accounts. I think they shouldn't ban innocent ppl because of their incompetent.
gl removing the ban.
btw, my guild leader never get her account back, which is pretty sad. NC support team told in an e-mail that, they don't have a very good method to distinguish between gold buyer & transfer between accounts. I think they shouldn't ban innocent ppl because of their incompetent.
gl removing the ban.
Terraban
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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin
Yes I know, I just re-read the OP and, again, find the 3rd sentense strange:
ANet Perma-banned him for selling in-game items for real money. This is not written in any ban notice as far as I know. So where did he got it? If it's just a misunderstanding, then I apologise to the OP and hope that, if his friend is not lying, he gets back his account. |
It doesn't say "You have been banned for selling items for cash".
So the only way he would think that is if he was actually doing it...correct?
But yeah....goodluck anyway.
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by U Wanna Die
ANet Perma-banned him for selling in-game items for real money.
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The only things I can think of is that he's using the same email for contact as for his account, and/or that he's been spamming his wares in the ALL chat.
N8mare
Muahaha - poor, retarded ppl working in AN:
My guild leader was holding a contest, in which the guild member with the highest number of faction gathered within a week in AB received 100k. After giving the reward the winner and the leader were banned. It was 3 days ago, they still cannot use their accounts, waiting for the support's reply.
Gaile and all of you working there in AN: stop eating your doughnuts and TURN ON your brain cells. This madness must end or... you will totally loose your customers with this approach. You have NO RIGHT to ban people without THE PROOF! WTF!!
My guild leader was holding a contest, in which the guild member with the highest number of faction gathered within a week in AB received 100k. After giving the reward the winner and the leader were banned. It was 3 days ago, they still cannot use their accounts, waiting for the support's reply.
Gaile and all of you working there in AN: stop eating your doughnuts and TURN ON your brain cells. This madness must end or... you will totally loose your customers with this approach. You have NO RIGHT to ban people without THE PROOF! WTF!!
Divinus Stella
Thanks for the info, il use my admin rights and unban him right away.......
X Ice Man X
This has worried me for a while now.
I often give away what I consider to be unless Gold items to me to other people (Such as guild Members and friends) for free because they have a use for it, be a new character or a hero. Whats to stop somebody who doesn't like me reporting me for something and ANet deciding that because I've been giving away weapons to people I'm selling them or money on some website?
I also collect Torment Gems with somebody esle to speed up the rate at which we can get Armbraces and sell them as the price drops, allowing us to both earn more cash. That person gives me all their Torment Gems as they drop and I hold onto them, get the Armbrace and will then sell it giving them half the money made. Again, would ANet check this or would they just see me getting Torment Gems for free off of somebody else and Bann us both?
I've also lent people (close friends who I trust ONLY) money in game to buy items that they've seen for sale cheap that they really want but don't have the moneyto buy just then so they can pay me back as and when they are able too.
Does it say in the EULA that I'm not allowed to be helpful and friendly to other guild members and my friends? Or should I stop being nice just out of fear of being called a bot?
I often give away what I consider to be unless Gold items to me to other people (Such as guild Members and friends) for free because they have a use for it, be a new character or a hero. Whats to stop somebody who doesn't like me reporting me for something and ANet deciding that because I've been giving away weapons to people I'm selling them or money on some website?
I also collect Torment Gems with somebody esle to speed up the rate at which we can get Armbraces and sell them as the price drops, allowing us to both earn more cash. That person gives me all their Torment Gems as they drop and I hold onto them, get the Armbrace and will then sell it giving them half the money made. Again, would ANet check this or would they just see me getting Torment Gems for free off of somebody else and Bann us both?
I've also lent people (close friends who I trust ONLY) money in game to buy items that they've seen for sale cheap that they really want but don't have the moneyto buy just then so they can pay me back as and when they are able too.
Does it say in the EULA that I'm not allowed to be helpful and friendly to other guild members and my friends? Or should I stop being nice just out of fear of being called a bot?
A mummified one
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Originally Posted by N8mare
Muahaha - poor, retarded ppl working in AN:
My guild leader was holding a contest, in which the guild member with the highest number of faction gathered within a week in AB received 100k. After giving the reward the winner and the leader were banned. It was 3 days ago, they still cannot use their accounts, waiting for the support's reply. Gaile and all of you working there in AN: stop eating your doughnuts and TURN ON your brain cells. This madness must end or... you will totally loose your customers with this approach. You have NO RIGHT to ban people without THE PROOF! WTF!! |
afya
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Originally Posted by N8mare
Muahaha - poor, retarded ppl working in AN:
My guild leader was holding a contest, in which the guild member with the highest number of faction gathered within a week in AB received 100k. After giving the reward the winner and the leader were banned. It was 3 days ago, they still cannot use their accounts, waiting for the support's reply. Gaile and all of you working there in AN: stop eating your doughnuts and TURN ON your brain cells. This madness must end or... you will totally loose your customers with this approach. You have NO RIGHT to ban people without THE PROOF! WTF!! |
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Originally Posted by X Ice Man X
This has worried me for a while now.
I often give away what I consider to be unless Gold items to me to other people (Such as guild Members and friends) for free because they have a use for it, be a new character or a hero. Whats to stop somebody who doesn't like me reporting me for something and ANet deciding that because I've been giving away weapons to people I'm selling them or money on some website? I also collect Torment Gems with somebody esle to speed up the rate at which we can get Armbraces and sell them as the price drops, allowing us to both earn more cash. That person gives me all their Torment Gems as they drop and I hold onto them, get the Armbrace and will then sell it giving them half the money made. Again, would ANet check this or would they just see me getting Torment Gems for free off of somebody else and Bann us both? I've also lent people (close friends who I trust ONLY) money in game to buy items that they've seen for sale cheap that they really want but don't have the moneyto buy just then so they can pay me back as and when they are able too. Does it say in the EULA that I'm not allowed to be helpful and friendly to other guild members and my friends? Or should I stop being nice just out of fear of being called a bot? |
Brimstonez
This is why people got into the habit of trading an item of small value with a large gold transfer. 100k transfers with no item in the trade makes things look very suss. I have heard of many incidences such as this, though am unsure of how it was resolved. All I can suggest is staying in contact with A.Net and hassle the shit out of them until your account is returned. In future I suggest you follow the above mentioned guide when transferring or 'giving' large amounts of gold to someone.
fenix
I read this as:
I was selling Gold, and got Perma-banned. Now I want my account back, because I have some stuff on there I want to have again, and I don't want to do it on another account. How can I get it back?
I was selling Gold, and got Perma-banned. Now I want my account back, because I have some stuff on there I want to have again, and I don't want to do it on another account. How can I get it back?
Numa Pompilius
You guys don't actually think this guy's innocent, do you?
I've moderated another game-forum, and my experience is that 99.9% of the people complaining about being unfairly banned are guilty as hell and know it, but would never, ever, admit it. If presented with ironclad evidence they'd still just deny it - or claim to have been hacked.
I may be a cynical old bastard, but I bet this guy got banned for something along the lines of spamming "W.T.S. PROHPESIES ACOUNT w 2 LVL 20 $30" in the ALL chat of Kamadan.
I've moderated another game-forum, and my experience is that 99.9% of the people complaining about being unfairly banned are guilty as hell and know it, but would never, ever, admit it. If presented with ironclad evidence they'd still just deny it - or claim to have been hacked.
I may be a cynical old bastard, but I bet this guy got banned for something along the lines of spamming "W.T.S. PROHPESIES ACOUNT w 2 LVL 20 $30" in the ALL chat of Kamadan.
A mummified one
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Originally Posted by Brimstonez
This is why people got into the habit of trading an item of small value with a large gold transfer. 100k transfers with no item in the trade makes things look very suss. I have heard of many incidences such as this, though am unsure of how it was resolved. All I can suggest is staying in contact with A.Net and hassle the shit out of them until your account is returned. In future I suggest you follow the above mentioned guide when transferring or 'giving' large amounts of gold to someone.
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N8mare
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
You guys don't actually think this guy's innocent, do you?
I've moderated another game-forum, and my experience is that 99.9% of the people complaining about being unfairly banned are guilty as hell and know it, but would never, ever, admit it. If presented with ironclad evidence they'd still just deny it - or claim to have been hacked. I may be a cynical old bastard, but I bet this guy got banned for something along the lines of spamming "W.T.S. PROHPESIES ACOUNT w 2 LVL 20 $30" in the ALL chat of Kamadan. |
My guild leader was banned because of GIVING to other guildie 100k as a reward for contest. I think they should give him back the money he paid for that funny game.
baz777
If your friend is innocent then I wish him luck, but a ticket to Anet is the only route.
This thread will soon be closed!
This thread will soon be closed!
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by N8mare
No, I would not call you cynical bastard. A person who judges others without knowing the facts is not a cynical bastard - is simply retarded.
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You of course realize that that is exactly what you're doing too, you've just judged him innocent (because your guild leader allegedly was) whereas I judged him guilty (because pretty much everyone I've ever seen complain have been).
enter_the_zone
I have to say, I know enough people who have had perma-bans reversed (and one person TWICE reversed for 2 separate "infringments") to know that Anet's ban system is /fail. I'm still awaiting my double perma-ban for transferring my kuunavang from my one account to my other.
My advice is to always speak to the other person in whispers when giving them something, even if it's a guildie or ally, since Anet doesn't seem to understand checking guild and alliance chat.
@ Numa. Anet's initial judgments in the past have been shown to be wrong far too many times to assume that any bans are actually legitimate anymore. Forcing Anet to chase logs (ie. look at evidence they already have) by complaining about a ban via a ticket is retarded. They should be looking at the evidence before they ban.
But then the "It doesn't exist, oh no, not at all" ban bot would need to be far more sophisticated than it currently is.
My advice is to always speak to the other person in whispers when giving them something, even if it's a guildie or ally, since Anet doesn't seem to understand checking guild and alliance chat.
@ Numa. Anet's initial judgments in the past have been shown to be wrong far too many times to assume that any bans are actually legitimate anymore. Forcing Anet to chase logs (ie. look at evidence they already have) by complaining about a ban via a ticket is retarded. They should be looking at the evidence before they ban.
But then the "It doesn't exist, oh no, not at all" ban bot would need to be far more sophisticated than it currently is.
N8mare
I DO NOT AGREE on closing this thread!
Give the chance to read it and post in it to all those who paid for that game or to those thinking of buing it!
I want to discuss about AN policy! If they think that once they have our money for the game so they can make every single stupidity they want - they're SO WRONG!
I want other people to know, that when buying GW you could loose your account because some retarded worker of AN decides to perma ban it due to "suspicious" transactions when giving your guildie some gold!
YES I'M IRRITATED! I HAVE MY RIGHTS AS A CONSUMER!
Give the chance to read it and post in it to all those who paid for that game or to those thinking of buing it!
I want to discuss about AN policy! If they think that once they have our money for the game so they can make every single stupidity they want - they're SO WRONG!
I want other people to know, that when buying GW you could loose your account because some retarded worker of AN decides to perma ban it due to "suspicious" transactions when giving your guildie some gold!
YES I'M IRRITATED! I HAVE MY RIGHTS AS A CONSUMER!
moko
ok, I'll let Gaile know after the conga is over. I'm sure this will help a lot!!
Ctb
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We're not ANET support. We don't have access to ANET data. We can't do anything but wildly speculate.
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Be sure to stop back and let us know how long it takes for the AG to laugh in your face and send you off.
+1 in a doomed thread.
A mummified one
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YES I'M IRRITATED! I HAVE MY RIGHTS AS A CONSUMER!
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Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone
@ Numa. Anet's initial judgments in the past have been shown to be wrong far too many times to assume that any bans are actually legitimate anymore.
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~ Dan ~
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Originally Posted by fenix
I read this as:
I was selling Gold, and got Perma-banned. Now I want my account back, because I have some stuff on there I want to have again, and I don't want to do it on another account. How can I get it back? |
All these threads with sympathetic idiots: "ohhh i hope he gets his account back, poor guy
".Where's the proof, where's the evidence to say he's innocent? Where is it?
Pointless starting yet another thread to say someone is wrongly banned just because you think he isn't like that.
afya
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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Think you just his the nail on the head.
All these threads with sympathetic idiots: "ohhh i hope he gets his account back, poor guy ".Where's the proof, where's the evidence to say he's innocent? Where is it? Pointless starting yet another thread to say someone is wrongly banned just because you think he isn't like that. |
This is called the presumption of innocence, m8.
X Ice Man X
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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Where's the proof, where's the evidence to say he's innocent? Where is it?
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You brought 100k off of Ebay last night. You did it because I said you did. According to you thats enough, and it is now up to you to prove that you in fact did not buy the gold.
Doesn't work does it. They shouldn't have to proof they are innocent as you shouldn't. It should be the other way around as it is in law
A mummified one
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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
All these threads with sympathetic idiots: "ohhh i hope he gets his account back, poor guy
". Where's the proof, where's the evidence to say he's innocent? Where is it?[/I] |
Ctb
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N8mare
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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Think you just his the nail on the head.
All these threads with sympathetic idiots: "ohhh i hope he gets his account back, poor guy ".Where's the proof, where's the evidence to say he's innocent? Where is it? Pointless starting yet another thread to say someone is wrongly banned just because you think he isn't like that. |
Numa Pompilius
Fact of the matter is that the only ones who know the truth are:
1) the guy (not his friends, mother, or dog)
2) NCSoft support.
Not only that, but the only ones who can do anything about it are:
1) the guy (not his friends, mother, or dog)
2) NCSoft support.
That's why threads like these get closed.
1) the guy (not his friends, mother, or dog)
2) NCSoft support.
Not only that, but the only ones who can do anything about it are:
1) the guy (not his friends, mother, or dog)
2) NCSoft support.
That's why threads like these get closed.
garethporlest18
Anet bans people innocent or guilty. They do what they want, we bend over and submit because no one is gonna get everyone to quit.
Oh and Numa these threads are made to bash Anet and tell them how bad they are and how they should just give up and stop and go away and never come back and how everyone else should follow the quitters and etc etc.
Oh and Numa these threads are made to bash Anet and tell them how bad they are and how they should just give up and stop and go away and never come back and how everyone else should follow the quitters and etc etc.
~ Dan ~
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Originally Posted by afya
Where is the proof that he's guilty. If you can't proof his guilt, I guess he should stay innocent?
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If you come on here parading yet another innocent banning, i expect proof. Why should someone get my sympathy without earning it?
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Anet bans people innocent or guilty. They do what they want, we bend over and submit because no one is gonna get everyone to quit.
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I've been playing since the week after release of Prophecies, and I've never been banned. None of my friends have ever been banned. And I frequently give away stuff and gold. I do not, however, cheat, shout crap in the ALL channel, or buy gold.
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So he's not guilty then? Who cares. He's just yet another banned guy, who needs to send a ticket to support. Why post on here though? For sympathy, that's why. So Anet haven't proved in this thread he is guilty - nor has he provided evidence saying he is innocent, and that we should be sympathetic; so just quit all the ass kissing +1s.
afya
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Originally Posted by Ctb
On ANET's servers, apparently.
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If ANET judge this as guilty "A is selling moeny for cash", that means ANET ignored the other 66.6% of INNOCENT CHOICE.
A mummified one
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Who cares
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