Do You Know Oni?

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

We don't know much about them except they're annoying and like to spawn out of nowhere just to relentlessly attack.

Even the wiki page doesn't explain much at all.

Is it possible we'll see them again in GW2?

I also noticed that when I type in Oni into the search... nothing comes up...

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

The better wiki says:
Quote:
The nature and origin of Oni is not clear. They are demonic creatures in terms of species, and their corruption is closely tied to Kanaxai, the dark entity lurking within the Deep. Dauv Merishahl, a Luxon collector, offers this theory:

"Oni are curious creatures. We of the Turtle Clan believe they were once human but have become twisted by terrible nightmares from the deep within the Jade Sea. They are similar to the Luxons known as Outcasts, driven to the edge of insanity and irrationally violent. Oni may hold the key to discovering the true nature of the Outcasts."
So no, no one knows. Any real speculation should be in Druid's Overlook.

They're also out of Japanese lore, if you didn't know that. They're basically just demons.

TempusReborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/Mo

Check out the Deep. As I recall Kannaxi is both the source of the Luxon Outcasts and the Oni throughout the land. (Demon Spawn)

bosstweed

bosstweed

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Michigan

Rt/

Playable race!

Flem

Flem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

NA

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by bosstweed
Playable race!

OMG QFT!

I'd play the hell out of that.

Oni & Mursatt


/sign

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Well, they're demons that seem to have no affiliation with Abaddon, Dhuum, and Menzie's little crew; but instead work for Kanaxai, who seems to be his own guy.

With Kanaxai dead, the oni might simply disappear - however, as the appearence of the oni isn't a recent thing (Hao Zhang, a collector, mentions them 'in legend'), it might also be that they are their own creatures that will continue to haunt Cantha, albeit without the leadership of Kanaxai (who knows? Kanaxai might just be a submissive of some greater evil; like the Lich was for Abaddon and the Great Destroyer is for Primordius)

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

now that would be cool the oni as a playable race
would beat the norn asuran and other lame ass races they chose to give us for 2

i wanted to be able to play as a forgotten one

Biostem

Biostem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

I know this sounds weird, but I always thought they were similar to the Aloe that spawn in Prophecies - they just kind of appear and attack the players...

Randvek

Randvek

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Rise From the Ashes [phnx]

W/

I would LOVE to play an Oni!

Free Runner

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

We dont really know where Kanaxai came from other than him being excavated and corrupting the Luxons that got to him. For all we know there could be other beings like him that command/spawn other Oni. You cant kill a Nightmare so perhaps some remnant of the original Kanaxai will crop up in GW2 resulting in more Oni.

It would be nice to see their return.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

Unless the origin of demons is racially divided like the human lands (Tyria, Cantha, Elona), they'd surely be from the same place Abaddon's demons are from, but then again, we see none in the Realm of Torment.

I dunno really, I wish we knew more of them. If I recall they also mention they come from a dimension of pure insanity or something.

mrmango

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

They most likely aren't related to Abaddon, or they would've been in the RoT.

Stormlord Alex wins again.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

as I see it, Oni are the next stage in Kanaxai's corruption of the luxons. He corrupts Luxons, making them outcasts, after a while they turn into Oni. Maybe after a while they turn into those copies of Kanaxai, and the Kanaxai we really fought in The Deep was a more advance copy of Kanaxai, who knows. The idea of Oni being a playable race in GW2 would be PWNAGE, that would most definatly be my first race pick.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

and how would you explain the Oni on Shing Jea island and such?

Free Runner

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
and how would you explain the Oni on Shing Jea island and such?
I dont think they are limited to where they can spawn in Cantha. Kanaxai is located under the Jade Sea yet they can appear in the Echovald Forest and Shing Jea Island (On Shing Jea they dont spawn in groups though). The only place they dont appear is in Kaineng City.

politicsxxox

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

Me/N

if u type oni in google , it ays its some sort of a demon in japanese culture.

mazey vorstagg

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nodnol

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

Actually I think they're more like wolves. They hunt in small packs, but don't report to an organized intelligence. Did Kanaxai really control them, or did he just train them like you can train war dogs?

I don't know why, they just don't seem overly intelligent to me, more like animals. Perhaps it's the fact that they're all the same class. And the deamon part, well, they might just be of deamonic descent rather than a deamonic force.

I do think they'll be GW2 however, because they're too awesome to leave out. We may find out more about them then.
---------
Actually Kanaxai is really interesting. I've never thought about who he is. It seems to me that he can't just be a natural occurrence, otherwise there'd be lots similar to him. Is he a demi god, like Dhuum? Or an unbound general of abbadon? Perhaps he was created by the jade wind.

Urgoz is the leader of the wardens, right? And the wardens were like druids or sylvari, a race that evolved naturally and weren't summoned. Urgoz ageless I presume, since it says in his guildwiki artical he's been around for a while. He might just be this tree that natural evolved by some random occurrence and his offspring were wardens. He was once the guardian of Echovald. Do all forests have guardians? Do all areas have guardians? If so, Kanaxai could be a corrupted guardian of the Jade Sea, turned evil by the jade wind.

Anyway, the outcasts are humans driven mad by kanaxai. The fish are driven mad by Kanaxai too. I think he may be an embodiment of the evil that froze the sea in the jade wind. So, he was created when shiro died. What do you think?

Desman

Desman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Finland

Me/

oni is NOT annoying they are cool and does demon even need origins? :P

Dono

Dono

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

Cleethorpes

We Like To Spank Your [Mum]

Mo/

So your saying when your trying to pull a big ass mob and they pop out of no where your happy?

The Way Out

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

Mo/E

I get giggly inside... hahahaha

Shadow Kurd

Shadow Kurd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Netherlands

Scouts of Tyria

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dono
So your saying when your trying to pull a big ass mob and they pop out of no where your happy?
Yes cause i always run away!! o no wait scorpion wire >.<

Fangclaw

Fangclaw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Maguuma Jungle / Tarnished Coast

R/

They wont be playable, because they have no backstory. But I admit it would be nice.

as for their origins, I'll go with Vorstagg's theory. (too lazy to quote)

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

Heres how i think it happened:
During the jade wind, Kanaxi was awakened, but imprisoned deep within the jade.
Years later, Luxon miners were mining under their capital city of cavalon, when they hit a deep pocket of air. This explains the chiseled out look of the first part of the deep, opposed to the smooth later half. Within this pocket, they found the demons, and ended up releasing them. The survivors either ran or became outcasts, corrupted by Kanaxi, and the mining was stopped. More outcasts moved in, and the jade fish followed suit. Corrupted by the demons, they became more deadly then their topside counterparts. The pits left by the miners is now the deep. The oni's come up from thin layers in the roof from the deep. They can travel through tunnels left by the dredge, and this explains the oni in kurzick lands, and even in tunnels under the ocean to shing jea. All the tunnels lead back to the end room in the deep.

just my $.02