Does SARDELAC SANITARIUM matter

This forum doesn't matter, since only 0.5% of the people on it know what they are talking about.

No.

Place is full of scrubs.

WTB re-roll to 2005 good forum back then..

HA! What exactly are "high end people" ?

Nice. I'm new here, and only came here because the Guild Wars site said this was the only way to get suggestions to the developers, and this forum happened to be at the top of the list. I was just wondering if it was even worth my time to post here. I'm starting to think it might not be....

People who have a clue.

LOL

Sorry. But, are you kidding? Nothing gets implemented in the game because people posted it here. Regardless who did it.

It takes mass turmoil, neverending threads about a subject, and then something *MIGHT* happen.

But if you ask for forums that "count", I think you should be assured that Guru and GWO are the biggest and oldest forums and carry some weight.



And all that just because support told you to post your ideas on forums. Homer Simpson would say "d'oh".

I pray they don't, what with the outright hatred towards PvP and terrible threads that pour out in Riverside.

God, agreed. You, me, and like 8 other people are the only posters I "respect" anymore (and I do respect people who have differing opinions from mine like Mithran, because there are valid arguements for some things I don't like).

I mean, I have no problem with new players. We were all new once. I have a problem with new players who come on the forum and demand stuff gets changed because they don't understand something.

The problem with that is that PvE is so broken because the lovely guys at A.Net decided that PvE doesn't need to follow the rules that the skills that are being used in PvE are balanced on and thus they really can not afford to do that.
So a lot of times they are forced into taking this middle road and then both sides feel like being RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed without any lube.

You confuse me. Do they, or don't they....?

Please define a set of parameters to show a person as "Someone who has a clue"

I think you overestimate the impact of one person posting his/her idea here.

Sometimes it might be picked up, more often not.

And this is quite good, if ANet would consider and finally even implement every idea posted here, the game would be a mess.

It is quite optimist that all ANet designers have a free day where they sift through the forum to read all pearls of ultimate wisdom posted here.


So go ahead and post your idea, and be realistic about the impact of your suggestion.

Oh, I'm not delusional about the impact of a single person posting here. I thought the idea was to gain support through these forums. It seems to me though that maybe there have been so many bad ideas presented here that everyone's knee jerk reaction is to shoot down every idea without thinking about it.

I guess I was hoping that I'd see people actually considering other's ideas and maybe attempting to contribute here, but it doesn't seem like that happens... most of the time I think people post without even reading.

It is. And if you read through the thread, you might find some information about what all came from fan forums, including this one.

Welcome to riverside. QQ, flaming and trolling, fun for the whole family.

Welcome to guru. QQ, flaming, meh... you get the idea.

But hey, since you're here now - when in Rome, ....

What shall I say, you are right.

This is a game forum, and communication is too often at neanderthal-level. Dunno why this happens, it is not only a problem of this forum. And people adapt to that style.

There are worse forums, though.
I just checked your age and noticed that your manners are civilized, well above the standard here. It would be an interesting experiment to see what would happen to you if you post here daily for three months.

I wonder if people realize this is actually about Sardelac?

And no, sardelac doesn't mean anything. LIke 0.0001% of the ideas actually get implemented. And as for the Concept classes... Well, I doubt anyone except the usual weirdo's even LOOKS at that place. (I sure hope they won't come here to flame me )

hehehe, sweet, the forum guinea pig!

Um, I have been reading through the thread, that's why I started it.

... I do it for the lulz

Does Life Matter?

The developers don't. Galie does. That's part of her job as a PR rep, to keep in touch with the community's opinions.

Well any update they do is either common sense or some random crap thats just "WTF?"

So im guessing no :S

I'll pick up your concluding thought in the other thread:The community has opportunity to present their ideas. Anet evaluating them is not part of that. Players however are given opportunity to do so.

Unfortunately, that's not how it works. No feature has ever been added because of a petition. If you get every single guru poster to sign it, that is merely representative of hard-core crowd, or 5-10% of population.

All empiric data gathered to date on social side of MMOs indicates that forum visitors are not representative statistic.

Perhaps you were expecting something else - Sardelac isn't a poll on "what will we add into next patch".

Auction house and hair dresser likely have more than 10,000 signatures. The response given by Anet was: "Will not be added due to technical reasons".

So that makes ideas a pipe dream. There have been over 15,000 ideas posted in Sardelac alone. Me, and several others have provided multiple examples of completely player proposed ideas that not only made it to the game, but changed it to the core.

Do player suggestions matter - yes.
Do polls matter - no.

The ideas are there to give designers ideas. It's not about idea popularity, but how could it improve gameplay.

An example - Ursan is very hated. Yet it improved gameplay for many, and will not be changed. Same for titles. But, there's a design direction that game follows. Nobody likes nerfs, but all realize that some form of balance must exist. Nobody likes "broken" economy, yet the economy in GW is fine.

And most importantly - people will disagree with you simply because they can. It's not about their right - it's about opportunity and ability to do so.

MMOs are more than a game. Forums and fan sites are included into that. It's all part of the game. The flaming, trolling, and all that belongs with it. That is the true end-game.

Sardelac equals information. Information equals knowledge. Knowledge equals power. Power equals energy. Energy equals matter.
Hence, Sardelac equals matter.
QED.

I think it gives people a place to make suggestions, whether they are read or not, people feel the need to spurt out things they think are important....that forum offers the place to do it.....otherwise riverside would be full of posts about things that we can do nothing about.

Sardelac Sanitarium lowers your IQ 20 points every time you visit it. Especially the Concept Class threads.

It only matters for those wishing to ego stroke their e-peen and feel important about some very unimportant things.

They changed the title...still Sardelac is full of eejits too.

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I do believe this question was answered, flamed, QQ'ed, trashed, [insert other adjectives].