My GW2 Assassin Concept

Looking through what Trialist posted, yeah some of it is overpowered. I'll probably change preparations to something else, and make Jutsus count as a special stance so a jutsu and stance couldn't be used at the same time. As for the Perfect Form + Death Blossom thing, no thats not imbalanced. Criticals with daggers aren't anything at all, and being able to spam DB with an IAS is pretty much whats already done now. To clarify, the break points I speak of are not the energy gained, but the amount of attribute points (on the current GW scale) needed to get there +1...3 energy on crit. +4...8...12 energy on crit would be ridiculously overpowered, and if you interpreted it that way, sorry, but seriously think over what you read before you start flaming.

EDIT: Updated CC.

Updated CC again, put some shutdown type skills in Shadow Arts. Give me some feedback and feel free to add your own. Plan on changing some Assassination skills and Combat skills when I get around to it

Moar updates. Changed combat skills to require more skill to spam. Made plots into contracts that only target one foe.

I like the time you took to flesh out the entire class.

I've never been any good at assassins so I stick to simple classes; Ranger, Necro, and Monk.

i like assassins beacause i always find a lot of tards/newbie/whiner that whisp me offenses when i kill them

if they would have some blocking skills or a blind they would not die, but they are too stupid to do it

I don't think we should have professions at all. I would like to have option of interchanging our attributes. There are 8 attributes per 10 professions which make 80 different builds. Imagine if I could build a character who has these attributes

1. Swordmanship
2. Marksmanship
3. Dagger Mastery
4. Spear Mastery
5. Scythe Mastery
6. Protection Prayers
7. Tactics
8. Energy Storage (primary)

This would be a Jack-of-all trades class. Judging by this build he'd likely be a Warrior, but that depends on his armor. Which I'll explain later. The skills available would only be the ones you have attributes for. This system would allow more flexibility in building to suit your style of play. If you were a Necromancer and never use Blood Magic then what's the point of having that attribute?

I think we should be able to interchange the attributes every time we level up, once we reach level 20. Only restrictions would be that only one primary attribute allowed. Also your armor would have requisites like weapons do. So you'll need the Tactics attribute if you want to wear Warrior armor.

I think armor requisites be very similar to the way weapon requisites are, in that only a character which has Strength and/or Tactics can carry a shield can also wear Warrior armor depending on which which of the two Warrior attributes is needed.

Elemental armor can have requisite to just like its weapons. For example the fire-based robes (Flameforged) would require you to have say 8 in Fire Magic attribute.

Armor rating should based on how much you put in the attribute. So if you want max armor you're gonna need to put more into it than the initial requirement. So if Flameforged armor has a rating of 15 at minimum of 8 requisites of Fire Magic. Each extra point raises it to the next rating. So you would need need 13 in Fire Magic to get Max Armor (60) rating for Flameforged Armor.

What I'm suggesting allows for more customization in character development. It also would be easier to alter your path of development should you want to change primary professions. You aren't stuck trying to play through the game with a limited skill bar. So yeah I can see it helping to avoid grinding if the skills are not properly balanced.

The risk of this is that too many characters will have formulaic build in the beginning of development. So there could be grinding, but it just won't be from a restricted skill bar like it is now. The way to fix that would be to allow access to all skills from the beginning but each skill/spell having a requisite based on the amount of potential damage.

So if your a low-level character and put all your attribute points in Mysticism just to use Avatar of Dwayna (which would have high requisite because its a powerful skill), you leave nothing for the other 7 skills let alone armor and weapons requisite. So this forces the player to be more creative in developing their character along the way.

Good as your argument may be, I bet you can't understand why everyone calles rogues rouges!

Anyway, I agree. Blizzard can't balance their rogues for shit, ANet can't balance assassins. I don't think ONLY the core professions should be in GW2, but assassins should go. They simply can't be balanced. As much as I like my assassin, I admit, they RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up balance pretty badly and I'm willing to not have one in GW2 in order to have a balanced game. Even if assassins DO manage to be balanced, they'll sill just be 1234567 SPs or 123434343434343434343 MS+DBs.

Anyway, as for the idea of assassins dual wielding swords - no. That's something warriors should do. Besides, we don't need to worry about it because there'll be no assassins in GW2! (Fingers crossed).

if assassins aren't in GW2, I'm not buying it

please refrain from posting current assassin balance issues in my thread, directly contribute to the CC or don't post.

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The overuse of stupid emoticons like ^^ and -.-
and the gay anime avatar.

Hmm, Japanice =3.

Uhm, you have a girl in your avatar, you use girlish bloglike emotes and Magna Carta sounds, even if you know what it means (I do ;d), kinda girly.

And i needed to know your sexuality why? Stop hitting on me.

Okay, after reading this.. and something else I found on official wiki. Skills are fine, except.. make the attacks have different damage and effects when used as a certain class of attacks. This way people won't complain about 1234567, and skill chains won't be killed if you tapped a finisher instead of a dual by accident.

I think it's a Boy -_-.
You don't watch Anime don't you?

Maybe were having same prob as this one:
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You don't, but I figured it'd help you understand why you're pissing me off. Stop it, now.

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But lets not derail this thread anymore shall we? Only 3 other people actually commented on the OP's CC in this entire thread. Feel feel to send me your love and naked pics via pm though.

right...i have just revoked your right to speak, you have just proven the fact that your IQ is lower than Bush's

all the other classes you mentioned are versatile paragons for example, can be straight dmg/pressure with p/me cruel spear, offensiveparty support through command shouts, defensive party support through motivation shouts, etc, etc, rits are melee support through weaps/a-rage, party heals and backup heals through resto, straight dmg through channeling, spirit spamming all over the place, dervs can either be all out spiking dmg (conjure/wounding strike) a sturdy, high armor frontliner through AoB, other sturdy frontliners through AoM, etc, etc....hell you even see them healing in HB

Assassins, on the other hand are 123123123123123123 goredenignegoredenginegoredengine no matter which way you look at it

One thing let Assassins be assassins and actually be able to assassinate somebody such as the idea of assassins creed but without you having specific targets. I mean let assassins be able to put themselves up for hire to kill enemies of clients.

That game needs to GTFO. I hope they change all the professions in GW 2.

Love the class concept and art, but I still have this feeling that aspects of the class would somehow managed to be abused.

Assassins need to die.

Your ideas are fine and dandy, but basically, you just took the GW1 version of a sin, overpowered him, have him a sword, some new insigs, and a new look.

In GW2, I hope that nearly ALL of the professions are completely reworked. Certain key aspects should remain though (Assassins' daggers/mask, Dervs' hood and scythe, Paragons' wing casts)

I lol'd for the 12 chars.

I thought I already covered why sin's in general are a bad concept. guess not

I think quite a few people have already covered that they'll be in GW2, like it or not.

I think they were just designed and executed wrong.

norly?
Assassins were VERY poorly planned out in the current GW. They basically implemented a class that doesn't work in GW, and implemented it very poorly at that. GW2 will be a different game, keep in mind, and that is what my CC is focused at.

oh I knew they were going to be implemented before I wrote the summary that I did, but none the less, that summary is exactly whats wrong with the assassin class and unless every point I showed in that summary is addressed, any class that resembles the current "assassin" class will fail.
I couldn't agree more.

Yeah, but was any info released on how the combat/profession system will work at all? Because I can't see how CCs can be designed like this. In any case, I love it.

I actually really like this idea. (not to insult Metroid's suggestion )

With careful balancing, this could be just powerful enough to promote skillful play without 12345678 button mashing.

i like this skill idea -- Dragon Jaw[E]- 10en 20 recharge - Dual. This attack strikes for +5...35 damage, and inflicts burning for 0...5 seconds.

What can be done about shadowsteps besides making them half-ranged or totally destroy them? Maybe make them 50% +/- fail with </= 4/5 Shadow Arts or Deadly Arts depending on the spell? Or make them only work for Assassin primaries? Maybe come up with something before just chucking it.

chucking shadowstepping into a huge fire would be a far more viable alternative.

very creative, i like it

I think there needs to be a more organic skills system.

Not saying like WoW where skills are limited, I like the idea of secondary profession switching in outposts. But there needs to be more than 8 active skills, synergies between attributes/other professions, etc.

If they want more variety, having more useable skills would allow for more variation in builds.

As to the people that QQ about 1 through 5 button mashing on sins, I always have to laugh. Its the same on any other class designed to kill, such as warriors and elementalists, you hit your skills in a specific order with the intent to maximize damage output.

The only difference with the sin (something people tend to overlook) is that if a part of the chain fails for any reason, the entire chain falls apart. Not so with the warrior or ele, who can simply move on to the next skill.

So to those that QQ about 1-5 easy mode kills, I have to say they are playing against sins of superior skill, or have absolutely crap builds of their own. Its a simple thing to stop a sin, players/teams that can't are lazy and ill-prepared for PvP anyways.

I like the original suggestions, AND the concept art . Obviously skill balance will evolve over time, but one suggestion I'd make is keeping the sin with Daggers as the sole weapon attribute, and instead having to secondary for more weapon selection. Maybe add more variation into the Daggers line, or change it to "Tools of the Trade" and for god's sake add some nunchaku!

nunchakus for Assassins rofl >.>

You mean I think Katars, Ninja-To, Kodachi (real melee weapons of assassins), Kunais and Shuriken (Throwing Daggers/Stars), THAT are weapons, that would fit to the Assassin as equipable weapons much better, than such boring Daggers.

Simple Daggers should be imo the Weapon of Rogues or a secondary Weapon for Rangers.

Nunchakus, are weapons for Martial Artists, no Assassin Weapon.

The Concept Picture there on page 1 shows an Assasin, that wears a Ninja-To.

Nice idea, but some of the attacks look like they would be frequently abused.